The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Watch Forum > Rolex & Tudor Watch Topics > Rolex General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 24 September 2020, 07:30 AM   #1
alex.cicollo
2024 Pledge Member
 
alex.cicollo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Real Name: Alex
Location: Europe
Watch: A few
Posts: 1,950
I’ve given up.... 116610LV

Hi from the UK. It feels like I’ve been trying to buy a new 116610LV since forever. Following the discontinuation (and given I only really buy my watches from ADs) plus the prices skyrocketing, I’ll now never get one.

It’s sad to see how many BNIB being sold in the gray market when there’s genuine folk who would have bought it for ourselves to wear and enjoy, not to make a quick profit.

A bit sad. I’ll get over it.
alex.cicollo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 07:33 AM   #2
DCheeta
"TRF" Member
 
DCheeta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Real Name: Dave
Location: NYC
Posts: 7,180
Without the hyperbole, how long have you really been trying? As recently as three years ago they were still available in AD display cases. Maybe it has been different in the UK.

Nonetheless, it is kind of sad that certain models will forever be outside of a reasonable price range.
DCheeta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 07:36 AM   #3
alex.cicollo
2024 Pledge Member
 
alex.cicollo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Real Name: Alex
Location: Europe
Watch: A few
Posts: 1,950
I’ve given up.... 116610LV

Prob 3 1/2 yrs.... moot point now...

Indeed my friend. Indeed.
alex.cicollo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 07:38 AM   #4
Swiss Mad!
"TRF" Member
 
Swiss Mad!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Real Name: Max
Location: UK
Watch: Various
Posts: 3,727
Im similar with the original BLNR on oyster.

Never got one from the AD now fetching £12-£15k on the secondary market its not an option.

Like you say, ill get over it lol.
__________________

instagram: max.parkin
Swiss Mad! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 08:02 AM   #5
42itus
"TRF" Member
 
42itus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Real Name: Tom
Location: Honolulu
Watch: 116519LN
Posts: 3,828
That sucks OP. Maybe one day down the road everyone will lose interest and it will be less than original MSRP and we’ll be talking about “remember when these were trading for over double retail?”


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
42itus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 08:11 AM   #6
vh2k
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: USA
Posts: 3,017
Never give up. It’s possible an AD in London is holding onto one.

One day, the stars will align and you’ll get it somehow.
vh2k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 09:03 AM   #7
Bruno Datejust
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Real Name: Bruno
Location: Italy
Watch: Rolex
Posts: 327
Try to find something similar (for you) but less hyped. I'd think about the bluesy. I was going for the 116610LN for example, but will go probably 114060 to take some distance from the folly around Sub-dates in general. Even LN are growing rapidly in quotation and gray dealers are beginning to copy ADs in snobbish attitude.
__________________
ROLEX
ROLEX
Bruno Datejust is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 09:12 AM   #8
indianmachine
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: USA
Posts: 792
it's a true bummer but alas! based on your signature it sounds like you've had some wins too
indianmachine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 09:23 AM   #9
garyk
2024 Pledge Member
 
garyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Real Name: Gary
Location: USA
Watch: Daytona
Posts: 11,085
Quote:
Originally Posted by alex.cicollo View Post
Hi from the UK. It feels like I’ve been trying to buy a new 116610LV since forever. Following the discontinuation (and given I only really buy my watches from ADs) plus the prices skyrocketing, I’ll now never get one.

It’s sad to see how many BNIB being sold in the gray market when there’s genuine folk who would have bought it for ourselves to wear and enjoy, not to make a quick profit.

A bit sad. I’ll get over it.
I would tell you to hang in there but I've never seen it this bad. So sorry for you mate!
__________________
garyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 09:31 AM   #10
Harry-57
2024 Pledge Member
 
Harry-57's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Real Name: Harry
Location: England
Posts: 9,790
In March 2018 I rang around about half the ADs in England. None would take my details. My local AD, who as far as I can tell, runs real lists with real people (including me) moving up, sometimes down and occasionally off them, told me that they had closed their list at 50. They were not confident that everybody on their list would ever get one. They didn't think it was worth compiling a second division or back up list. Had they done so there would have been another 50 on that already.

That was the UK situation as it appeared to me (but I'm sure didn't apply to everyone) 2.5 years ago. I went grey. I paid just north of £8K. I have never regretted it. What it's theoretically worth today is a joke. But some people won't think twice.
Harry-57 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 09:42 AM   #11
teabags001
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: USA
Watch: DD40, hulk, Dayton
Posts: 2,039
Quote:
Originally Posted by alex.cicollo View Post
Hi from the UK. It feels like I’ve been trying to buy a new 116610LV since forever. Following the discontinuation (and given I only really buy my watches from ADs) plus the prices skyrocketing, I’ll now never get one.

It’s sad to see how many BNIB being sold in the gray market when there’s genuine folk who would have bought it for ourselves to wear and enjoy, not to make a quick profit.

A bit sad. I’ll get over it.

Keep your head up. I just picked one up today from the AD. Retail.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
teabags001 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 09:45 AM   #12
alphadweller
"TRF" Member
 
alphadweller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Real Name: Vic
Location: Spain
Watch: SD43
Posts: 5,966
Don't worry OP, you'll forget about it. I got over not getting a Pepsi and a Batman. Doesn't really matter TBH, I love what I have.
alphadweller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 10:11 AM   #13
Bizcut1
2024 Pledge Member
 
Bizcut1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Real Name: Ben
Location: Valley of the Sun
Watch: 126331 126610 3861
Posts: 3,235
There are over 450 of them listed now on Chrono 24. 450! Versus about 230 Bluesey's and over 500 of the 116610LN's.

That's a lot of watches, guys...a well-known grey dealer told me that he never expected all these Hulk owners to sell all at the same time. He's got all of these he can handle...

Where's the tipping point on price and availability? Not sure.
Bizcut1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 10:50 AM   #14
febie111
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: canada
Posts: 88
Quote:
Originally Posted by teabags001 View Post
Keep your head up. I just picked one up today from the AD. Retail.


Same here,I pick it up tomorrow. I never thought I would get one at retail.
febie111 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 10:56 AM   #15
Plebs
"TRF" Member
 
Plebs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Real Name: Bobby
Location: Antarctica
Posts: 376
Quote:
Originally Posted by alex.cicollo View Post
Hi from the UK. It feels like I’ve been trying to buy a new 116610LV since forever. Following the discontinuation (and given I only really buy my watches from ADs) plus the prices skyrocketing, I’ll now never get one.

It’s sad to see how many BNIB being sold in the gray market when there’s genuine folk who would have bought it for ourselves to wear and enjoy, not to make a quick profit.

A bit sad. I’ll get over it.

Don’t give up just earn or save up more money and buy it?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Plebs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 11:06 AM   #16
teabags001
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: USA
Watch: DD40, hulk, Dayton
Posts: 2,039
Quote:
Originally Posted by febie111 View Post
Same here,I pick it up tomorrow. I never thought I would get one at retail.

They are still in the pipeline. Just have to be a little lucky I guess. Congratulations in advance.



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
teabags001 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 03:23 PM   #17
alex.cicollo
2024 Pledge Member
 
alex.cicollo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Real Name: Alex
Location: Europe
Watch: A few
Posts: 1,950
Quote:
Originally Posted by indianmachine View Post
it's a true bummer but alas! based on your signature it sounds like you've had some wins too

Indeed I have my friend , and I’m certainly not complaining. It’s just disappointing. And as I do not but from gray sellers, there’s nowhere to go. My decision of course, and maybe cutting my nose to spite my face but hey.
alex.cicollo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 03:25 PM   #18
alex.cicollo
2024 Pledge Member
 
alex.cicollo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Real Name: Alex
Location: Europe
Watch: A few
Posts: 1,950
Quote:
Originally Posted by teabags001 View Post
Keep your head up. I just picked one up today from the AD. Retail.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Congrats my friend! Enjoy it, it’s a stunning piece!
alex.cicollo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 03:27 PM   #19
alex.cicollo
2024 Pledge Member
 
alex.cicollo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Real Name: Alex
Location: Europe
Watch: A few
Posts: 1,950
I’ve given up.... 116610LV

Quote:
Originally Posted by Plebs View Post
Don’t give up just earn or save up more money and buy it?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I don’t buy from grays but thank you for the suggestion.
alex.cicollo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 03:28 PM   #20
TswaneNguni
"TRF" Member
 
TswaneNguni's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Real Name: Chris
Location: .
Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs
Posts: 12,609
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry-57 View Post
In March 2018 I rang around about half the ADs in England. None would take my details. My local AD, who as far as I can tell, runs real lists with real people (including me) moving up, sometimes down and occasionally off them, told me that they had closed their list at 50. They were not confident that everybody on their list would ever get one. They didn't think it was worth compiling a second division or back up list. Had they done so there would have been another 50 on that already.

That was the UK situation as it appeared to me (but I'm sure didn't apply to everyone) 2.5 years ago. I went grey. I paid just north of £8K. I have never regretted it. What it's theoretically worth today is a joke. But some people won't think twice.
The premier list ,then the division 1 list,then the division 2 list ...
TswaneNguni is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 03:46 PM   #21
TimeAZ
"TRF" Member
 
TimeAZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: USA
Watch: Rolex & Tudor
Posts: 2,155
You might find one in the pre-owned section of an AD
__________________
The perfect blossom is a rare thing. You could spend your life looking for one, and it would not be a wasted life.
TimeAZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 03:50 PM   #22
teabags001
Banned
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: USA
Watch: DD40, hulk, Dayton
Posts: 2,039
Quote:
Originally Posted by alex.cicollo View Post
Congrats my friend! Enjoy it, it’s a stunning piece!


Thank you. There are still a few in the pipeline. Maybe there are a lot. Who really knows. Don’t lose faith. If it’s meant to be it will be.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
teabags001 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 04:23 PM   #23
BNA/LION
2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member
 
BNA/LION's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Real Name: Larry
Location: San Diego, CA
Watch: ROLEX
Posts: 25,239
I’ve given up.... 116610LV

Don't give up! Just care a little less and keep trying. Ask everyone you know if they have any connections and eventually it will happen!

Good Luck and Happy Hunting!
__________________

✦ 28238 President DD 18K/YG ✦ 16610LN SS Sub ✦ 16613 18K/SS Serti ✦ 16550 Exp II Non-Rail Cream Dial ✦ Daytona C 116500 ✦ 126710 BLRO GMT-Master II ✦ NEXT-->?
Hole In One! 10/3/19 DMCC 5th hole, par 3, 168 yards w/ 4-Iron.
BNA/LION is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 04:29 PM   #24
JSolution
"TRF" Member
 
JSolution's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Real Name: Jay
Location: England
Watch: SkyD
Posts: 6,290
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry-57 View Post
In March 2018 I rang around about half the ADs in England. None would take my details. My local AD, who as far as I can tell, runs real lists with real people (including me) moving up, sometimes down and occasionally off them, told me that they had closed their list at 50. They were not confident that everybody on their list would ever get one. They didn't think it was worth compiling a second division or back up list. Had they done so there would have been another 50 on that already.

That was the UK situation as it appeared to me (but I'm sure didn't apply to everyone) 2.5 years ago. I went grey. I paid just north of £8K. I have never regretted it. What it's theoretically worth today is a joke. But some people won't think twice.
It’s a tough nut to crack with AD in the uk. Especially if you have only been really interested in watches in the last two three years it’s hard to get an in. I’ve found a really good ad he’s got me some more shalll we say undesirable watches. It has me on a list for a couple of hotter models now. Very honest about the timescale.
JSolution is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 04:54 PM   #25
Ihatecheese
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: London
Posts: 978
By this point the watch is slowly become less insta worthy as the masses move on. I see less Gucci clad guys wearng these now in the town (who would of historically worn big bangs) but it's still popular as recognisable like an LV monogram.

As popularity dwindles for the fashion crew you'd think more will arrive on 2nd hand market. But maybe best to focus on the new model in production
Ihatecheese is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 05:03 PM   #26
eightball76
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: england
Watch: 16520, LV, SD4K
Posts: 302
Considering you already have a Daytona C, BLNR and Sub C.... its hard to feel too bad for you
eightball76 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 05:45 PM   #27
bp1000
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Midlands, UK
Posts: 4,732
If it’s any consolation, I’ve had my for nearly 7 years and barely wear it. Got it out to wear this week, wore it 2 days and swapped it for a Speedmaster.

There are other watches that are available to buy that I prefer.

But I won’t sell it and hopefully will begin to really love it again at some point
bp1000 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 05:55 PM   #28
Harry-57
2024 Pledge Member
 
Harry-57's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Real Name: Harry
Location: England
Posts: 9,790
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bizcut1 View Post
There are over 450 of them listed now on Chrono 24. 450! Versus about 230 Bluesey's and over 500 of the 116610LN's.

That's a lot of watches, guys...a well-known grey dealer told me that he never expected all these Hulk owners to sell all at the same time. He's got all of these he can handle...

Where's the tipping point on price and availability? Not sure.
If this dealer's situation is typical of the market there is hope that the price trend will reverse.
Harry-57 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 07:29 PM   #29
oldman2005
"TRF" Member
 
oldman2005's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: norcal
Posts: 3,031
Quote:
Originally Posted by eightball76 View Post
Considering you already have a Daytona C, BLNR and Sub C....
Yes, there are people who wish to have JUST ONE of the above watches, so he should consider himself very lucky. Nothing to feel bad about.
oldman2005 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 September 2020, 07:44 PM   #30
The M3 Guy
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 78
Your best bet would be first purchase a Rolex for your partner at your local dealers, don't stipulate getting the Sub is part of the deal.

Just make sure you are on the list and are happy to join the Rolex ownership with your first purchase then hopefully they take you serious and just not another customer ringing or enquiring about a hot watch.
The M3 Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Asset Appeal

My Watch LLC

OCWatches

DavidSW Watches

Bernard Watches

Takuya Watches


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.