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wdin · 23 May 2015, 01:54 AM

I'd like to know if any Patek owners owns a Grand Seiko as well?
Any model would do though i'm looking at a Calatrava against similar style Grand Seiko.

If you do, a side-by-side photo would be a nice inclusion.

Qn:
If you do own both, what are the similarities and differences in terms of fit, finish, form, aesthetics, emotion and anything else you guys could come up with...

Grand Seiko do not sell their watches in a place where I could compare both side-by-side in the flesh. So your input is much appreciated. Thank you.

MrJ320 · 27 May 2015, 10:56 AM

I have a 5960P and vintage Grand Seiko 5646 GS. I am assuming you are looking at comparing a modern GS with a Patek.

Hard to compare between the two I have as they are completely different watches on completely different levels. Having said that I enjoy wearing both, but they are not really competitors or models one typically cross shop.

Slider817 · 27 May 2015, 01:14 PM

I have a Patek 5146g and a Grand Seiko Quartz, I don't think they are very similar, especially the two I have, manual annual calendar in white gold vs. steel Quartz watch. But, I think the Grand Seiko is a good brand, and I thought it would be nice to own a top tier made Quartz watch, that is super accurate. I rarely wear the Seiko, but it's nice to own, and wear on occasion.

Andad · 27 May 2015, 03:02 PM

Pix would be good.

rangercadre · 27 May 2015, 03:04 PM

its absurd to even compare grand seiko with patek.

SearChart · 27 May 2015, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rangercadre

its absurd to even compare grand seiko with patek.

When a Rolex vs Patek comparison is made nothing is wrong but with Grand Seiko it's absurd? Go to a GS dealer...

deej · 27 May 2015, 04:15 PM

Hard to compare both. The attention to details of a GS is simply amazing. The PP is just wonderful!

wdin · 27 May 2015, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrJ320

I have a 5960P and vintage Grand Seiko 5646 GS. I am assuming you are looking at comparing a modern GS with a Patek.

Hard to compare between the two I have as they are completely different watches on completely different levels. Having said that I enjoy wearing both, but they are not really competitors or models one typically cross shop.

Yup, a modern GS (preferably one that looks much like a Calatrava) to have a side-by-side shot with a Calatrava.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slider817

I have a Patek 5146g and a Grand Seiko Quartz, I don't think they are very similar, especially the two I have, manual annual calendar in white gold vs. steel Quartz watch. But, I think the Grand Seiko is a good brand, and I thought it would be nice to own a top tier made Quartz watch, that is super accurate. I rarely wear the Seiko, but it's nice to own, and wear on occasion.

Nothing wrong with owning a super accurate quartz!

Quote:

Originally Posted by deej

Hard to compare both. The attention to details of a GS is simply amazing. The PP is just wonderful!

Hey Deej, thanks for lending a hand with finally a 1st side-by-side PP and GS on this thread. That GS you've got there is sweet! Do you by chance have a Calatrava too?

Pardon my ignorance chaps, but does a Calatrava have hands similar to this particular GS (posted by Deej)?
Or should it be said "does this GS have a similar hands to some Calatrava models?"

wdin · 27 May 2015, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SearChart

When a Rolex vs Patek comparison is made nothing is wrong but with Grand Seiko it's absurd? Go to a GS dealer...

Thanks Bas

kilyung · 27 May 2015, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rangercadre

its absurd to even compare grand seiko with patek.

I think you need to do some more research. Once you get past the marketing, you'll find that GS makes some pretty amazing pieces.

nilfire77 · 27 May 2015, 09:17 PM

Comparison shots of two very similar style watches (PP 5296 vs GS SBGR061)

Cru Jones · 27 May 2015, 09:33 PM

^ great pix, thanks.

nilfire77 · 27 May 2015, 09:33 PM

IMO, both watches are comparable in terms of dial work. However, PP absolutely thrashes the GS when it comes to movement eye candy...

wdin · 27 May 2015, 10:22 PM

That's what i'm talking about!!

Thanks a lot Nil!

You don't just have great tastes, you have excellent photography skills too!

I can't stop

As for movement eye candy (to you) is it because it's not a gold rotor on the GS as compared to your PP?
If i'm not mistaken, GS do have gold rotors in selected limited editions (I could be wrong though).

Again, Thank You!

Slider817 · 27 May 2015, 10:48 PM

nilfire77 · 27 May 2015, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdin

That's what i'm talking about!!

Thanks a lot Nil!

You don't just have great tastes, you have excellent photography skills too!

I can't stop

As for movement eye candy (to you) is it because it's not a gold rotor on the GS as compared to your PP?
If i'm not mistaken, GS do have gold rotors in selected limited editions (I could be wrong though).

Again, Thank You!

Sad to say I don't own the pics ; they were grabbed off the web. However, I do own a GS SBGR061.

In terms of movement eye candy by GS, regrettably, anglage and gold chatons ain't their game. OTOH, the nicest GS movement IMO has to be those special edition GSs, especially the 9S85 SPECIAL movement. It has very nice anglage and a 18k gold medallion on the rotor.

Having said that, the movement finishing on a Credor is on another level though.

fmc000 · 27 May 2015, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rangercadre

its absurd to even compare grand seiko with patek.

it's absurd to have people like you around here...

nilfire77 · 27 May 2015, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slider817

Nice! IMO, the quality of dial work on a GS is up there with a PP.

nilfire77 · 27 May 2015, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rangercadre

its absurd to even compare grand seiko with patek.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmc000

it's absurd to have people like you around here...

From a price point perspective, he's not wrong actually... LOL

Vipes · 27 May 2015, 11:19 PM

GS watches are really nice but Patek's case and movement finishing are nicer, IMO.

Slider817 · 27 May 2015, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nilfire77

Nice! IMO, the quality of dial work on a GS is up there with a PP.

I really don't think that is true, my GS is great, but it's not at Patek quality levels at any aspect, to include the dial and casework. Additionally, I didn't think the Bracelet that originally came with the GS Quartz was that great, definitely nowhere near Rolex bracelet levels, therefore I purchased a GS strap and deployant clasp.

I don't mean to put down my GS Quartz, I am very happy with it, and considering the price, I think it's a great watch. It's not a Patek that cost 10x as much as it though.

nilfire77 · 27 May 2015, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slider817

I really don't think that is true, my GS is great, but it's not at Patek quality levels at any aspect, to include the dial and casework. Additionally, I didn't think the Bracelet that originally came with the GS Quartz was that great, definitely nowhere near Rolex bracelet levels, therefore I purchased a GS strap and deployant clasp.

I don't mean to put down my GS Quartz, I am very happy with it, and considering the price, I think it's a great watch. It's not a Patek that cost 10x as much as it though.

Try looking at both dials again, this time with a loupe ;)

nilfire77 · 28 May 2015, 12:06 AM

Here's another side by side dial comparison

nilfire77 · 28 May 2015, 01:11 AM

Another comparison - No Date Dress Watch

PP 5196

GS SBGW039

nilfire77 · 28 May 2015, 01:41 AM

Yellow Gold Dress Watch Comparison

5127 vs SBGH020

wdin · 28 May 2015, 06:05 PM

Thanks William for taking time off to share.

And Nill, I'm sold to that SBGW039. Even its text "Grand Seiko" is applied! I love these little details.
These 5196 and 5127 have printed fonts? Or is it my eyes?
Nill, thank you so much for all these side-by-side comparisons. Thank you for taking time to edit and share.

kilyung · 28 May 2015, 06:44 PM

Here's a closeup of a 5227. Very nicely tampon printed.

wdin · 28 May 2015, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

Here's a closeup of a 5227. Very nicely tampon printed.

Sheer class Mike... That screams Quality!
Excellent shot!

nilfire77 · 28 May 2015, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdin

Thanks William for taking time off to share.

And Nill, I'm sold to that SBGW039. Even its text "Grand Seiko" is applied! I love these little details.
These 5196 and 5127 have printed fonts? Or is it my eyes?
Nill, thank you so much for all these side-by-side comparisons. Thank you for taking time to edit and share.

My pleasure!

nilfire77 · 28 May 2015, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

Here's a closeup of a 5227. Very nicely tampon printed.

Nice macro mike! wdin, here's a close up on the wordings of a GS dial for comparison.

23 May 2015, 01:54 AM	#1
wdin "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: N/A Posts: 679	Patek & Grand Seiko I'd like to know if any Patek owners owns a Grand Seiko as well? Any model would do though i'm looking at a Calatrava against similar style Grand Seiko. If you do, a side-by-side photo would be a nice inclusion. Qn: If you do own both, what are the similarities and differences in terms of fit, finish, form, aesthetics, emotion and anything else you guys could come up with... Grand Seiko do not sell their watches in a place where I could compare both side-by-side in the flesh. So your input is much appreciated. Thank you.

27 May 2015, 03:02 PM	#4
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,792	Pix would be good. __________________ E

27 May 2015, 10:22 PM	#14
wdin "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: N/A Posts: 679	Now we're talking! That's what i'm talking about!! Thanks a lot Nil! You don't just have great tastes, you have excellent photography skills too! I can't stop As for movement eye candy (to you) is it because it's not a gold rotor on the GS as compared to your PP? If i'm not mistaken, GS do have gold rotors in selected limited editions (I could be wrong though). Again, Thank You!

27 May 2015, 10:56 AM	#2
MrJ320 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: James Location: Toronto Watch: IG: @j.project Posts: 2,194	I have a 5960P and vintage Grand Seiko 5646 GS. I am assuming you are looking at comparing a modern GS with a Patek. Hard to compare between the two I have as they are completely different watches on completely different levels. Having said that I enjoy wearing both, but they are not really competitors or models one typically cross shop.

27 May 2015, 01:14 PM	#3
Slider817 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: William Location: New York Watch: Journe, AP & Lange Posts: 868	I have a Patek 5146g and a Grand Seiko Quartz, I don't think they are very similar, especially the two I have, manual annual calendar in white gold vs. steel Quartz watch. But, I think the Grand Seiko is a good brand, and I thought it would be nice to own a top tier made Quartz watch, that is super accurate. I rarely wear the Seiko, but it's nice to own, and wear on occasion.

27 May 2015, 03:04 PM	#5
rangercadre "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: singapore Posts: 189	its absurd to even compare grand seiko with patek.

27 May 2015, 04:15 PM	#7
deej "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Philippines Posts: 344	Hard to compare both. The attention to details of a GS is simply amazing. The PP is just wonderful!

27 May 2015, 09:17 PM	#11
nilfire77 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: On a lil island Posts: 93	Comparison shots of two very similar style watches (PP 5296 vs GS SBGR061)

27 May 2015, 09:33 PM	#12
Cru Jones 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 34,475	^ great pix, thanks.

27 May 2015, 10:48 PM	#15
Slider817 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: William Location: New York Watch: Journe, AP & Lange Posts: 868

27 May 2015, 11:19 PM	#20
Vipes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 4,835	GS watches are really nice but Patek's case and movement finishing are nicer, IMO.

28 May 2015, 12:06 AM	#23
nilfire77 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: On a lil island Posts: 93	Here's another side by side dial comparison

28 May 2015, 01:11 AM	#24
nilfire77 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: On a lil island Posts: 93	Another comparison - No Date Dress Watch PP 5196 GS SBGW039

28 May 2015, 01:41 AM	#25
nilfire77 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: On a lil island Posts: 93	Yellow Gold Dress Watch Comparison 5127 vs SBGH020

28 May 2015, 06:05 PM	#26
wdin "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: N/A Posts: 679	Thanks William for taking time off to share. And Nill, I'm sold to that SBGW039. Even its text "Grand Seiko" is applied! I love these little details. These 5196 and 5127 have printed fonts? Or is it my eyes? Nill, thank you so much for all these side-by-side comparisons. Thank you for taking time to edit and share.

28 May 2015, 06:44 PM	#27
kilyung 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,870	Here's a closeup of a 5227. Very nicely tampon printed.

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