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RJRJRJ · 14 November 2018, 11:37 AM

I'm sure it's been asked a million times, but this is my first foray into Patek. Any chance at getting one at retail from an AD?

I don't have any relationship with a PP dealer.

tchaic · 14 November 2018, 11:57 AM

New from AD almost impossible in 2018.

s.m.b. · 14 November 2018, 12:21 PM

Very, very difficult.

ap1 · 14 November 2018, 01:25 PM

Bundle

jay_kay · 14 November 2018, 06:55 PM

Without spending on another Patek piece, you will find it very difficult. I was very recently in this situation and although I had lots of previous history with the AD I'd never bought a Patek from them. They told me that the Aquanaut, like the Nautilus was a 'reward' piece and that the wait for the 5167 was 4 years. She said if I were to buy a Twenty4 for my wife OR a Calatrava there and then she would be able to get me a 5167 on bracelet within a year and would be able to get me a rubber strap and clasp for it too.

She also mentioned that it was better to buy sooner rather than later as Rolex were getting a price increase in the next couple of days, (This was the end of September) and she predicted that Patek would follow suit. The increase never came to fruition and I managed to get an unworn 2017 5167a with only a small increase on RRP, justified by the fact there could be a rise soon and having sold a 2009 example recently at a very strong price I wouldn't be losing out.
Fingers crossed you find one. They really are amazing watches.

Rushne · 14 November 2018, 07:55 PM

Highly unlikely here as well. I am in a queue waiting for my 5167 on a bracelet. Should hopefully get a call at the end of the year but otherwise a bundle deal might get you the "privilege" of buying one at retail.

Hermann · 14 November 2018, 08:18 PM

I would buy the beautiful 5168G ist bigger and the blue is amazing.
The watch had also a better weight!!

Sam Philip · 14 November 2018, 11:31 PM

I got one bit over 2 years ago from an AD without any wait or prior relationship. Things have changed now. ADs are still getting the pieces but now most of them want to sell the pieces to their existing customers.

Sam Philip · 14 November 2018, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jay_kay

Without spending on another Patek piece, you will find it very difficult. I was very recently in this situation and although I had lots of previous history with the AD I'd never bought a Patek from them. They told me that the Aquanaut, like the Nautilus was a 'reward' piece and that the wait for the 5167 was 4 years. She said if I were to buy a Twenty4 for my wife OR a Calatrava there and then she would be able to get me a 5167 on bracelet within a year and would be able to get me a rubber strap and clasp for it too.

She also mentioned that it was better to buy sooner rather than later as Rolex were getting a price increase in the next couple of days, (This was the end of September) and she predicted that Patek would follow suit. The increase never came to fruition and I managed to get an unworn 2017 5167a with only a small increase on RRP, justified by the fact there could be a rise soon and having sold a 2009 example recently at a very strong price I wouldn't be losing out.
Fingers crossed you find one. They really are amazing watches.

I would find another AD if your AD was not able to get you a 5167A despite having a lots of previous purchase history. Is it WOS by any chance?

AK797 · 15 November 2018, 02:28 AM

They are rewards and enticers nowadays.

Sonzy · 15 November 2018, 04:35 AM

Very difficult

RJRJRJ · 15 November 2018, 05:34 AM

Thanks for the replies. I figured this was the case. I'll head over in person and see what they say.

Andrés G · 15 November 2018, 05:43 AM

Patience is key for the watch game. Don't lose hope.

CoveWatch · 15 November 2018, 08:06 AM

It’s very hard to get the aqua.. I am expecting my first nautilus in 2019 and asked about the 5167 also. My AD mentioned that getting a 5167a would push back my nautilus a bit while getting the 1a probably wouldn’t at all, so there’s that. I would advise to trying getting a bracelet version somewhere and just adding the strap? Still comes out cheaper than grey prices

RJRJRJ · 15 November 2018, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoveWatch

It’s very hard to get the aqua.. I am expecting my first nautilus in 2019 and asked about the 5167 also. My AD mentioned that getting a 5167a would push back my nautilus a bit while getting the 1a probably wouldn’t at all, so there’s that. I would advise to trying getting a bracelet version somewhere and just adding the strap? Still comes out cheaper than grey prices

So the bracelet version is "easier" to get?

What about the gold versions? Discounts available?

Fat_ninja · 15 November 2018, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJRJRJ

So the bracelet version is "easier" to get?

What about the gold versions? Discounts available?

Bracelet is easier but cost more...but also less production

CoveWatch · 15 November 2018, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJRJRJ

So the bracelet version is "easier" to get?

What about the gold versions? Discounts available?

Yes, I believe they are much less popular.. I did not ask about the R versions so I don’t know but I would assume they are easier than steel. Discounts are probably still unlikely if they’re not in showcases

codecow · 15 November 2018, 08:54 AM

I purchased mine at an AD and obtained it easily.

RJRJRJ · 15 November 2018, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codecow

I purchased mine at an AD and obtained it easily.

How long ago, and did you have a previous relationship with them?

codecow · 15 November 2018, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJRJRJ

How long ago, and did you have a previous relationship with them?

Gee maybe 5 years ago or so and yes I had bought a few pieces from them.

s.m.b. · 15 November 2018, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by codecow

Gee maybe 5 years ago or so and yes I had bought a few pieces from them.

Well, times have most definitely changed.

ttomczak · 15 November 2018, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoveWatch

It’s very hard to get the aqua.. I am expecting my first nautilus in 2019 and asked about the 5167 also. My AD mentioned that getting a 5167a would push back my nautilus a bit while getting the 1a probably wouldn’t at all, so there’s that. I would advise to trying getting a bracelet version somewhere and just adding the strap? Still comes out cheaper than grey prices

This is the route I took, I was told the bracelet was easier to get, and then I was able to add the strap... 3k more retail for the bracelet, plus the cost of the strap and deployment, but still thousands less the grays on bracelet and about the same as a used strap 5167.

SL BRABUS · 15 November 2018, 01:35 PM

Facepalm..^^^... Why am I having a hard time of getting the watch that I want...??

SL BRABUS · 15 November 2018, 01:36 PM

Time can change quickly over a weeks from what my AD told me today..... Thanks to you guys for spreading the news, now the bracelet version can be as hard to get as the rubber version....

Good luck gentleman of finding one and happy hunting.....

Ichiran · 15 November 2018, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SL BRABUS

Facepalm..^^^... Why am I having a hard time of getting the watch that I want...??

Great looking watch there, my friend!

WatchLurv · 15 November 2018, 02:22 PM

Isnt it possible to put a rubber on the bracelet?

@OP: I'd say near impossible. The waiting lists are longer than ever and Patek's supply is less than ever.

Calatrava r · 16 November 2018, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codecow

I purchased mine at an AD and obtained it easily.

Same here.

R!$ · 16 November 2018, 05:00 AM

Perhaps you should call and ask some dealers?

RJRJRJ · 16 November 2018, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R!$

Perhaps you should call and ask some dealers?

I plan to go in person

jay_kay · 16 November 2018, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Philip

I would find another AD if your AD was not able to get you a 5167A despite having a lots of previous purchase history. Is it WOS by any chance?

It certainly was WofS!

14 November 2018, 11:37 AM	#1
RJRJRJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,496	Is the 5167A attainable? I'm sure it's been asked a million times, but this is my first foray into Patek. Any chance at getting one at retail from an AD? I don't have any relationship with a PP dealer.

14 November 2018, 12:21 PM	#3
s.m.b. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: the Far West Posts: 1,282	Very, very difficult. __________________ Rolex & Patek Philippe

14 November 2018, 06:55 PM	#5
jay_kay "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Barrowford Watch: Tudor Black Bay 54 Posts: 1,699	Without spending on another Patek piece, you will find it very difficult. I was very recently in this situation and although I had lots of previous history with the AD I'd never bought a Patek from them. They told me that the Aquanaut, like the Nautilus was a 'reward' piece and that the wait for the 5167 was 4 years. She said if I were to buy a Twenty4 for my wife OR a Calatrava there and then she would be able to get me a 5167 on bracelet within a year and would be able to get me a rubber strap and clasp for it too. She also mentioned that it was better to buy sooner rather than later as Rolex were getting a price increase in the next couple of days, (This was the end of September) and she predicted that Patek would follow suit. The increase never came to fruition and I managed to get an unworn 2017 5167a with only a small increase on RRP, justified by the fact there could be a rise soon and having sold a 2009 example recently at a very strong price I wouldn't be losing out. Fingers crossed you find one. They really are amazing watches. __________________ Rolex Explorer 214270, Omega Speedmaster '1957 Relaunch' 3594.50.00, Panerai Luminor 1950 PAM00127-E, Panerai Radiomir 1936 PAM00249-I, Panerai Mare Nostrum PAM00716-T, Panerai PAM00785-Q Set, Panerai Luminor Black Seal PAM00594-Q, Panerai Luminor Daylight PAM00604-Q, Tudor Black Bay 54 79000N, Heuer Carrera Re-Edition CS3113, Hamilton Military W10 & TAG Heuer F1

15 November 2018, 04:35 AM	#11
Sonzy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Egypt Watch: PP/Breguet/IWC/Rlx Posts: 378	Very difficult __________________ Patek Philippe: 5712, 5146P Breguet: Marine GMT. IWC: Big Pilot “Le Petite Prince” Limited, Portugieser Chrono. Rolex: GMT Master II Batman.

15 November 2018, 01:35 PM	#23
SL BRABUS "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: U.S.A Watch: Only Rolex & Patek Posts: 3,339	Why am I having a hard time of getting the watch that I want...?? Facepalm..^^^... Why am I having a hard time of getting the watch that I want...?? __________________ Rolex Forum: Mainly Rolex & Benz pictures...!!! Click the above link to join the club...^^^... "SL BRABUS" aka BenzWorld Undercover Moderator

14 November 2018, 11:57 AM	#2
tchaic "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Chris Location: USA Watch: Tag Heuer 2000 Posts: 490	New from AD almost impossible in 2018.

14 November 2018, 01:25 PM	#4
ap1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,026	Bundle

14 November 2018, 07:55 PM	#6
Rushne 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Watch: White 116500LN Posts: 862	Highly unlikely here as well. I am in a queue waiting for my 5167 on a bracelet. Should hopefully get a call at the end of the year but otherwise a bundle deal might get you the "privilege" of buying one at retail.

14 November 2018, 08:18 PM	#7
Hermann "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Real Name: Marcello Location: Spain Posts: 408	I would buy the beautiful 5168G ist bigger and the blue is amazing. The watch had also a better weight!!

14 November 2018, 11:31 PM	#8
Sam Philip Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK Posts: 4,345	I got one bit over 2 years ago from an AD without any wait or prior relationship. Things have changed now. ADs are still getting the pieces but now most of them want to sell the pieces to their existing customers.

15 November 2018, 02:28 AM	#10
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,206	They are rewards and enticers nowadays.

15 November 2018, 05:34 AM	#12
RJRJRJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,496	Thanks for the replies. I figured this was the case. I'll head over in person and see what they say.

15 November 2018, 05:43 AM	#13
Andrés G "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Guatemala Posts: 3,391	Patience is key for the watch game. Don't lose hope.

15 November 2018, 08:06 AM	#14
CoveWatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: SoCal Watch: Rolex & AP Posts: 4,535	It’s very hard to get the aqua.. I am expecting my first nautilus in 2019 and asked about the 5167 also. My AD mentioned that getting a 5167a would push back my nautilus a bit while getting the 1a probably wouldn’t at all, so there’s that. I would advise to trying getting a bracelet version somewhere and just adding the strap? Still comes out cheaper than grey prices

15 November 2018, 08:54 AM	#18
codecow "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Louis Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: PP 5131R Posts: 4,762	I purchased mine at an AD and obtained it easily.

15 November 2018, 01:36 PM	#24
SL BRABUS "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: U.S.A Watch: Only Rolex & Patek Posts: 3,339	Time can change quickly over a weeks from what my AD told me today..... Thanks to you guys for spreading the news, now the bracelet version can be as hard to get as the rubber version.... Good luck gentleman of finding one and happy hunting..... __________________ Rolex Forum: Mainly Rolex & Benz pictures...!!! Click the above link to join the club...^^^... "SL BRABUS" aka BenzWorld Undercover Moderator

15 November 2018, 02:22 PM	#26
WatchLurv Banned Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Moon Watch: Swiss Posts: 2,270	Isnt it possible to put a rubber on the bracelet? @OP: I'd say near impossible. The waiting lists are longer than ever and Patek's supply is less than ever.

16 November 2018, 05:00 AM	#28
R!$ Banned Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,405	Perhaps you should call and ask some dealers?

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