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AdamW · 3 April 2022, 02:49 AM

My good friend got this watch the other day from a family member. I have some serious concerns about the dial. I know we are not supposed to mention specific items that look off, but I'm seeing at least 3. I can PM someone if that's allowed and let you know my concerns.

So, any experts out there that can give advice? Also, if as I suspect it's not legit, do I tell my buddy?

I'm no expert on this model so I hope I am wrong!!! UGH

Tools · 3 April 2022, 03:13 AM

Doesn't look legit to me.

GGGMT · 3 April 2022, 03:45 AM

Adam: ayayay. Good luck with your friend.

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PBJ1925 · 3 April 2022, 04:21 AM

Looks like a bad fugazi. I don't own a YMII but just off the top of my head

Missing triangle between 5 markers.
All the hands are wrong (color, size, form, length, etc..)
Crown looks squatty.

Etc... it just at a glance doesn't look right to begin with.

AdamW · 3 April 2022, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by PBJ1925

Looks like a bad fugazi. I don't own a YMII but just off the top of my head

Missing triangle between 5 markers.
All the hands are wrong (color, size, form, length, etc..)
Crown looks squatty.

Etc... it just at a glance doesn't look right to begin with.

Well, I do know that the very first iteration didn't have the triangle and the sword hands were correct. My concern is #1 is the way that the minute markers on either side of the hour markets look. They are too close. #2, the track above the countdown 10-1 is so close to the underneath of the blocks. #3 the minute hand isn't long enough...

PBJ1925 · 3 April 2022, 05:23 AM

Noted on the triangle with the 116680 reference. To your point its just still off with the length of hands, size of font, and font/graving, all feel off. The bracelet also looks to be more narrow, but always difficult to reference in photos.

When in doubt, I'd like it to a local watchmaker, I'm sure they'll be able to quickly resolve any doubts one way or another.

KY.. · 3 April 2022, 05:27 AM

More hobbyist than expert but I think a Google search is your friend with this one…
And I absolutely would tell my close friend it does not fit the bill and would expect the same as long as we are real friends…

freefly · 3 April 2022, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AdamW

My good friend got this watch the other day from a family member.

Let me stop you right there...

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamW

So, any experts out there that can give advice? Also, if as I suspect it's not legit, do I tell my buddy?

The watch is junk, and I am sure your buddy already knows. Your choice if you want to call BS on his "story" or not.

AdamW · 3 April 2022, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by freefly

Let me stop you right there...

The watch is junk, and I am sure your buddy already knows. Your choice if you want to call BS on his "story" or not.

Hmm... I don't know if he does or not. He's pretty proud of getting it. I haven't seen it in person yet, just the pics he sent. I've never had any interest in this model but right away from the pic he sent it looked way off to me. I have a sub and a couple dj so it's way out of my style.

arche3 · 3 April 2022, 06:43 AM

So fake....

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joli160 · 3 April 2022, 06:55 AM

Sorry, no need to spoil the fun for your friend

freefly · 3 April 2022, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by AdamW

Hmm... I don't know if he does or not. He's pretty proud of getting it. I haven't seen it in person yet, just the pics he sent. I've never had any interest in this model but right away from the pic he sent it looked way off to me. I have a sub and a couple dj so it's way out of my style.

If you want to be a bit more subtle...

The next time you see him with it, tell him you've never understood how the regatta timer works on those things, and ask him to show you.

Masteryacht · 3 April 2022, 11:38 AM

$10 trash.

Old Expat Beast · 3 April 2022, 11:43 AM

The fact that it looks like cheap junk is the main concern.

Cloudchaser · 3 April 2022, 05:39 PM

Really bad fake.

ursusgr · 3 April 2022, 09:56 PM

Give it some bananas and you will see…!

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Azadwatches · 3 April 2022, 10:50 PM

'Its not real.

1665fan · 3 April 2022, 11:00 PM

Garbage!!!!! And your friend knows it lol

AdamW · 4 April 2022, 12:16 AM

Thanks everyone for the opinion and advice. Honestly, I don't know if he knows it's no good. He's not into watches. Game time decision when I see him next week about whether I will tell him.

arche3 · 4 April 2022, 02:20 AM

I would tell him. If real friend.

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Chewbacca · 4 April 2022, 03:10 AM

Woof.

214270Explorer · 4 April 2022, 07:02 AM

Best thing - have a Rolex-oriented service tech open it to view the movement.

PRSWILL · 5 April 2022, 12:39 AM

a lot of tells.

AdamW · 5 April 2022, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PRSWILL

That watch ( real one) has one of the MOST complicated- if not THE most complicated movements ever made. There are no fakes that have duplicated a functioning movement for this watch- you should be able to tell it's fake just by trying to use it properly. but yeah a lot of other tells.

Really helpful! Thanks!

flyboyyy · 5 April 2022, 01:25 AM

Ughh...Just that bezel alone...look at the text (especially the number "1") amongst others things.

arche3 · 9 April 2022, 11:20 PM

Lol at the baby hands.

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Watch Maniac · 12 April 2022, 09:15 PM

100% fake if you ask me.

Tools · 12 April 2022, 10:07 PM

If somebody asks you for an honest assessment of their watch, that is one thing.

Bashing or deflating a friend for no other reason than "you know" is a completely different thing.

TonyD · 13 April 2022, 02:52 AM

Side question... does the Yacht timer function work properly? I believe on the fakes this won't work as that complication is very odd. I wonder what is actually does do.

asiparks · 13 April 2022, 04:56 AM

I imagine your friend knows his family well enough to know if whether they're more likely to gift him a $200 watch vs a nearer $18k watch....

If, by chance, he is from the kind of family that gift each other such extravagances as real Rolex, this watch might give him pause to consider those relationships.

3 April 2022, 05:27 AM	#7
KY.. 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Real Name: Keith Location: California Watch: 60s to 90s Posts: 1,261	More hobbyist than expert but I think a Google search is your friend with this one… And I absolutely would tell my close friend it does not fit the bill and would expect the same as long as we are real friends… __________________ Just an admirer/enthusiast of vintage Rolex/Heuer/Zenith/Breitling/Hamilton watches since the 80’s… ”I Do Love The Details, But I Can Choose If I Accept The Flaws…”

3 April 2022, 06:55 AM	#11
joli160 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,352	Sorry, no need to spoil the fun for your friend __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

3 April 2022, 11:43 AM	#14
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Hong Kong Watch: SEIKO Posts: 28,361	The fact that it looks like cheap junk is the main concern. __________________ _______________________

3 April 2022, 05:39 PM	#15
Cloudchaser "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Wild Wild West Watch: Watching Posts: 1,755	Really bad fake. __________________ Two Factor Authentication Enabled On My Account.

4 April 2022, 12:16 AM	#19
AdamW "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Adam Location: In my head Watch: this space Posts: 785	Thanks everyone for the opinion and advice. Honestly, I don't know if he knows it's no good. He's not into watches. Game time decision when I see him next week about whether I will tell him. __________________ Adam " I don't have a microwave oven but I do have a clock that occasionally cooks $h!t" - Mitch Hedburgh

3 April 2022, 03:13 AM	#2
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,049	Doesn't look legit to me. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

3 April 2022, 03:45 AM	#3
GGGMT 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Itinerant Watch: 79010sg Posts: 8,061	Adam: ayayay. Good luck with your friend. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

3 April 2022, 04:21 AM	#4
PBJ1925 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Real Name: Jay Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: 326934 Posts: 2,256	Looks like a bad fugazi. I don't own a YMII but just off the top of my head Missing triangle between 5 markers. All the hands are wrong (color, size, form, length, etc..) Crown looks squatty. Etc... it just at a glance doesn't look right to begin with.

3 April 2022, 05:23 AM	#6
PBJ1925 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Real Name: Jay Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: 326934 Posts: 2,256	Noted on the triangle with the 116680 reference. To your point its just still off with the length of hands, size of font, and font/graving, all feel off. The bracelet also looks to be more narrow, but always difficult to reference in photos. When in doubt, I'd like it to a local watchmaker, I'm sure they'll be able to quickly resolve any doubts one way or another.

3 April 2022, 06:43 AM	#10
arche3 Banned Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 280	So fake.... Sent from my SM-F711U using Tapatalk

3 April 2022, 11:38 AM	#13
Masteryacht "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: USA Watch: 16622,BLNR,116500 Posts: 974	$10 trash.

3 April 2022, 09:56 PM	#16
ursusgr "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Athens Posts: 14	Give it some bananas and you will see…! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

3 April 2022, 10:50 PM	#17
Azadwatches "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2022 Real Name: IG-Azadwatches Location: New York Posts: 267	'Its not real.

3 April 2022, 11:00 PM	#18
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,590	Garbage!!!!! And your friend knows it lol

4 April 2022, 02:20 AM	#20
arche3 Banned Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 280	I would tell him. If real friend. Sent from my SM-F711U using Tapatalk

4 April 2022, 03:10 AM	#21
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,113	Woof.

4 April 2022, 07:02 AM	#22
214270Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: United States Watch: me buy Watches Posts: 3,955	Best thing - have a Rolex-oriented service tech open it to view the movement. __________________ “The display of actual intelligence terrifies much of mankind” Rolex "some" Tudor "some" Damasko "some" Misc Pieces "some" Marathon "some" GS Spring Drive "some" Hamilton "some" Findeisen "some"

5 April 2022, 12:39 AM	#23
PRSWILL "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Minnesota Posts: 246	a lot of tells.

5 April 2022, 01:25 AM	#25
flyboyyy "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: MN Posts: 293	Ughh...Just that bezel alone...look at the text (especially the number "1") amongst others things.

9 April 2022, 11:20 PM	#26
arche3 Banned Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 280	Lol at the baby hands. Sent from my SM-F711U using Tapatalk

12 April 2022, 09:15 PM	#27
Watch Maniac "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Real Name: Joseph Location: Maryland Posts: 1,495	100% fake if you ask me.

12 April 2022, 10:07 PM	#28
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,049	If somebody asks you for an honest assessment of their watch, that is one thing. Bashing or deflating a friend for no other reason than "you know" is a completely different thing. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

13 April 2022, 02:52 AM	#29
TonyD 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: Boston North Watch: Meteorite Daytona Posts: 1,456	Side question... does the Yacht timer function work properly? I believe on the fakes this won't work as that complication is very odd. I wonder what is actually does do. __________________ Pepsi GMT/SD43/DSSD Blue/ DJ41 TT Rose Diamond Dial/ Daytona Meteorite/ SS Sky Dweller White Dial/ IWC Bronze Big Pilot/ Aquanautic Super King / Omega Ploprof 1200 / Graham Scarab Diver

13 April 2022, 04:56 AM	#30
asiparks "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Portland, OR Watch: ing the Detectives Posts: 1,884	I imagine your friend knows his family well enough to know if whether they're more likely to gift him a $200 watch vs a nearer $18k watch.... If, by chance, he is from the kind of family that gift each other such extravagances as real Rolex, this watch might give him pause to consider those relationships. __________________ Eagels may soar, but weasels are seldom sucked into jet engines...

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