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Santiago32 · 26 April 2022, 11:47 AM

Fourth time this has happened from a dead stop... I literally gave the watch 80 full crown winds and nothing. I have to shake the watch for it to start. Is this normal for a fairly new watch?

Lennxi · 26 April 2022, 11:51 AM

It happens to a lot of new watches as it is a manufacturer defects. You might need to contact your AD and send it back for check up.
It only works when you moves the watch but not working on manul winding.

Santiago32 · 26 April 2022, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Lennxi

It happens to a lot of new watches as it is a manufacturer defects. You might need to contact your AD and send it back for check up.
It only works when you moves the watch but not working on manul winding.

Thanks. All my other watches start after 20 winds or so... I'll contact my AD or might go to RSC Beverly Hills.

kieselguhr · 26 April 2022, 12:09 PM

Not normal. Have it checked by RSC

Godspeed on the return of the watch to your wrist where it belongs.

Brian Page · 26 April 2022, 12:16 PM

Probably needs an adjustment

inadeje · 26 April 2022, 12:44 PM

That isn’t normal, but Rolex do seem odd where self winding is concerned. A $100 seiko I only need to pick it up after disuse and the second hand starts. No so with a Rolex.

CHRONOLEX · 26 April 2022, 12:49 PM

Not normal at all - but curious that you say this happens a lot. If not 80 winds, then how many does it take? Does it start at all?

Santiago32 · 26 April 2022, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CHRONOLEX

Not normal at all - but curious that you say this happens a lot. If not 80 winds, then how many does it take? Does it start at all?

It doesn't start at all from winding.. i have to give it a shake for it to start.

t65tampa · 26 April 2022, 01:52 PM

Normal to need a little jiggle after 15-20 turns, maybe more movement than what the action of winding provides.

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saxo3 · 26 April 2022, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Santiago32

Fourth time this has happened from a dead stop... I literally gave the watch 80 full crown winds and nothing. I have to shake the watch for it to start. Is this normal for a fairly new watch?

Not normal for a 3285 movement.
https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...postcount=1704

drrd · 26 April 2022, 04:17 PM

If it then runs for seventy hours and keeps good time then that’s not abnormal.

joli160 · 26 April 2022, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by drrd

If it then runs for seventy hours and keeps good time then that’s not abnormal.

If it does this than never mind the jiggle

alphadweller · 26 April 2022, 04:34 PM

Definitely not normal. All my Rolex watches start with a manual wind, with a few turns of the crown or a few more depending on the caliber.

SS Oyster · 26 April 2022, 04:45 PM

Send through AD to RSC unless RSC in driving distance, in which case take it there directly. Should NOT be happening.

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G3Z · 26 April 2022, 04:48 PM

I’m sure it is normal to need to wiggle the movement. Padi will be along shortly to confirm im sure.

Srct · 26 April 2022, 05:26 PM

Wound my LV from dead this morning and didn’t actually start until I gave it a nudge - watch runs well and in spec - I don’t see it as an issue. Will check by GmT later

padi56 · 26 April 2022, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lennxi

It happens to a lot of new watches as it is a manufacturer defects. You might need to contact your AD and send it back for check up.
It only works when you moves the watch but not working on manul winding.

Not true all the Rolex movements made in the last 50 odd years might need a swirl or a small shake to start even after a manual wind.And depending on how you wind them as they only wind the mainspring in clockwise direction only via the winding crown.

saxo3 · 26 April 2022, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by alphadweller

Definitely not normal. All my Rolex watches start with a manual wind, with a few turns of the crown or a few more depending on the caliber.

^The same for all my Rolex watches.

Harry-57 · 26 April 2022, 06:43 PM

If it runs normally after a brief wiggle I wouldn't bother sending it in. If you have to shake it like a bottle of ketchup there is something wrong.

Tomek- · 26 April 2022, 06:48 PM

Probably needs an adjustment,its not normal.

1William · 26 April 2022, 09:14 PM

I have several watches from Rolex that do this. Never an issue for me as some movement after winding gets it going. If the watch is running within specs then don't worry about it.

padi56 · 26 April 2022, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 1William

I have several watches from Rolex that do this. Never an issue for me as some movement after winding gets it going. If the watch is running within specs then don't worry about it.

Exactly that.

brandrea · 26 April 2022, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by padi56

Not true all the Rolex movements made in the last 50 odd years might need a swirl or a small shake to start even after a manual wind.And depending on how you wind them as they only wind the mainspring in clockwise direction only via the winding crown.

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Originally Posted by 1William

I have several watches from Rolex that do this. Never an issue for me as some movement after winding gets it going. If the watch is running within specs then don't worry about it.

Same as these gentlemen

ChrisGio315 · 26 April 2022, 11:42 PM

Maybe not the same (since it seems like your watch works after a shake) but when my 126710BLNR was fully wound, it would tick for a bout 45 seconds and then stop.
I sent it into Rolex and just got it back (almost a 4 month wait which sucked but oh well).
All good now. Not sure what it was since they didn't give me a reason due to it being a Warranty fix.

Tools · 27 April 2022, 02:05 AM

A watch gear train is a compilation of many metal-to-metal gears, pinions, pivots and stones. They all have to move in unison before it evens out and begins to work.

If it doesn't start after a few turns of the crown, give it a flick with a finger or a slight shake to break any "torque lock" that happens with gears, then continue to wind it fully. The crown is not a light switch, so continuing to turn it well past fully wound is just causing unnecessary wear of the mainspring barrel.

It's like a full size train. The locomotive cannot simply begin puling the string of cars behind it. It needs to back up and compress all the slack, then begin pulling and starting to roll out each car individually. The flick or shake on the movement opens up those individual parts (cars) so they can move individually first, then together.

In a perfect world all of the parts would be fully lubricated and have no opposing torque to overcome, and start right up. The world is not so perfect.

Santiago32 · 27 April 2022, 02:24 AM

Just spoke to RSC Beverly Hills. They said this is not normal. It should start after 20 full winds. They told me to give it 20 winds next time, set the time and set it down. If it doesn't start within a couple minutes there is an issue and to bring it in.

They also mentioned to not wind it more than 30 full crown winds... by doing so it'll but unnecessary wear on the movement.

JSolution · 27 April 2022, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 1William

I have several watches from Rolex that do this. Never an issue for me as some movement after winding gets it going. If the watch is running within specs then don't worry about it.

saxo3 · 27 April 2022, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Santiago32

Just spoke to RSC Beverly Hills. They said this is not normal. It should start after 20 full winds.

That is exactly what I had measured in March 2021, see:
https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...postcount=1704

Santiago32 · 27 April 2022, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by saxo3

That is exactly what I had measured in March 2021, see:
https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...postcount=1704

Nice!

TswaneNguni · 27 April 2022, 04:12 AM

I never manual wind to start .
Always move it around ,until the second hand start running then manual wind .

I once shaked one of my Panerai around a bit,didnt know wtf was wrong with the thing,then realized it's one of the manual wind references ..

26 April 2022, 11:47 AM	#1
Santiago32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Real Name: Jim Location: UTC/GMT -7 hours Watch: BLRO-LV-EXP1-BB58 Posts: 1,667	126710BLRO does not start Fourth time this has happened from a dead stop... I literally gave the watch 80 full crown winds and nothing. I have to shake the watch for it to start. Is this normal for a fairly new watch? __________________ instagram: santiagowatchcollector

26 April 2022, 12:44 PM	#6
inadeje 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Miami Watch: me lose count. Posts: 5,568	That isn’t normal, but Rolex do seem odd where self winding is concerned. A $100 seiko I only need to pick it up after disuse and the second hand starts. No so with a Rolex. __________________ ♛ 116689 ♛ 116500LN Blk ♛ 116500LN Wht ♛ Sky Dweller 326934-003 ♛ 126710BLNR ♛ 126710BLRO - ♛ 126610LV ♛ 16520 ♛ 16523 ♛ 16610 ♛ 5513 Birth Year - ✠ Patek Philippe 5980/1A-001 - AP 26331ST Panda - Panerai Fiddy 127, Bronzo 671, 687, 111, Ω Speedmaster 1957 Broad Arrow, Daniel Roth Endurer Chronosprint, Cartier Santos XL - ✿ Tudor Black Bay 58 Bronze M79012M, Montblanc TimeWalker Chrono 41

26 April 2022, 01:52 PM	#9
t65tampa "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,031	Normal to need a little jiggle after 15-20 turns, maybe more movement than what the action of winding provides. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ t65tampa

26 April 2022, 11:42 PM	#24
ChrisGio315 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Real Name: Chris Location: Boston Watch: 126710BLRO Posts: 93	Maybe not the same (since it seems like your watch works after a shake) but when my 126710BLNR was fully wound, it would tick for a bout 45 seconds and then stop. I sent it into Rolex and just got it back (almost a 4 month wait which sucked but oh well). All good now. Not sure what it was since they didn't give me a reason due to it being a Warranty fix. __________________ 126710 BLNR 126710 BLRO 126720 VTNR

27 April 2022, 02:05 AM	#25
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,049	A watch gear train is a compilation of many metal-to-metal gears, pinions, pivots and stones. They all have to move in unison before it evens out and begins to work. If it doesn't start after a few turns of the crown, give it a flick with a finger or a slight shake to break any "torque lock" that happens with gears, then continue to wind it fully. The crown is not a light switch, so continuing to turn it well past fully wound is just causing unnecessary wear of the mainspring barrel. It's like a full size train. The locomotive cannot simply begin puling the string of cars behind it. It needs to back up and compress all the slack, then begin pulling and starting to roll out each car individually. The flick or shake on the movement opens up those individual parts (cars) so they can move individually first, then together. In a perfect world all of the parts would be fully lubricated and have no opposing torque to overcome, and start right up. The world is not so perfect. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

26 April 2022, 11:51 AM	#2
Lennxi "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Vancouver BC Watch: Hulk/Batman/Pepsi Posts: 79	It happens to a lot of new watches as it is a manufacturer defects. You might need to contact your AD and send it back for check up. It only works when you moves the watch but not working on manul winding.

26 April 2022, 12:09 PM	#4
kieselguhr "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Nick Location: Las Vegas Watch: 1601 Posts: 10,423	Not normal. Have it checked by RSC Godspeed on the return of the watch to your wrist where it belongs.

26 April 2022, 12:16 PM	#5
Brian Page "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: USA Posts: 6,528	Probably needs an adjustment

26 April 2022, 12:49 PM	#7
CHRONOLEX 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,540	Not normal at all - but curious that you say this happens a lot. If not 80 winds, then how many does it take? Does it start at all?

26 April 2022, 04:17 PM	#11
drrd "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Real Name: rd Location: uk Posts: 1,444	If it then runs for seventy hours and keeps good time then that’s not abnormal.

26 April 2022, 04:34 PM	#13
alphadweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Real Name: Vic Location: Spain Watch: SD43 Posts: 5,908	Definitely not normal. All my Rolex watches start with a manual wind, with a few turns of the crown or a few more depending on the caliber.

26 April 2022, 04:45 PM	#14
SS Oyster "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 8,800	Send through AD to RSC unless RSC in driving distance, in which case take it there directly. Should NOT be happening. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

26 April 2022, 04:48 PM	#15
G3Z "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: United Kingdom Watch: Omega, Rolex etc.. Posts: 316	I’m sure it is normal to need to wiggle the movement. Padi will be along shortly to confirm im sure.

26 April 2022, 05:26 PM	#16
Srct "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: UK Watch: 116610LV Posts: 236	Wound my LV from dead this morning and didn’t actually start until I gave it a nudge - watch runs well and in spec - I don’t see it as an issue. Will check by GmT later

26 April 2022, 06:43 PM	#19
Harry-57 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Harry Location: England Posts: 9,678	If it runs normally after a brief wiggle I wouldn't bother sending it in. If you have to shake it like a bottle of ketchup there is something wrong.

26 April 2022, 06:48 PM	#20
Tomek- Banned Join Date: Apr 2022 Real Name: Tomek Location: Poland Watch: Rolex Batman Posts: 57	Probably needs an adjustment,its not normal.

26 April 2022, 09:14 PM	#21
1William 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 44,758	I have several watches from Rolex that do this. Never an issue for me as some movement after winding gets it going. If the watch is running within specs then don't worry about it.

27 April 2022, 02:24 AM	#26
Santiago32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Real Name: Jim Location: UTC/GMT -7 hours Watch: BLRO-LV-EXP1-BB58 Posts: 1,667	Just spoke to RSC Beverly Hills. They said this is not normal. It should start after 20 full winds. They told me to give it 20 winds next time, set the time and set it down. If it doesn't start within a couple minutes there is an issue and to bring it in. They also mentioned to not wind it more than 30 full crown winds... by doing so it'll but unnecessary wear on the movement. __________________ instagram: santiagowatchcollector

27 April 2022, 04:12 AM	#30
TswaneNguni "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: . Watch: Daytonas/Subs/GMTs Posts: 12,608	I never manual wind to start . Always move it around ,until the second hand start running then manual wind . I once shaked one of my Panerai around a bit,didnt know wtf was wrong with the thing,then realized it's one of the manual wind references ..

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