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But that’s assuming you get the 5740 at retail. I can assume someone who got a 5740 allocation probably would have a 5711 at retail already. So it should be $30 vs $145. Or we should use grey vs grey price?
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Partially agree here. I now folks who were offered 5740 but not 5711. The population that can stomach the 5740 is much smaller than a 30k watch.
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If you bought these watches to enjoy (vs speculate or flip), it shouldn't really matter if you bought at the parabolic price, elevated price, or even lucky enough retail price...
For what it's worth even considering at the sky high prices from a couple months back, or late last year, I could not and still cannot think of any watch I'd rather wear and enjoy than my 5712a and 5980a, looking at any model from any watch brand (Patek included) personally Irrespective of the rapper or Instagram hype, the feel of the bracelet itself, intangible feeling of the Nautilus on my wrist, robustness of the steel, the movement on display, and overall design has me smitten. 5167a was awesome, but felt a bit casual to me. 5905 and 5205 showed me that I don't really enjoy leather strap dress watches as elegant as they are to look at, especially in the warmer climates I reside in and since I don't dress formally for work.. With Patek making less of them (reducing the SS line via discontinuations and how they are low production), hard to see values plummeting. If they do, maybe I'd be able to enjoy mine more and be less conscious of wearing mine in public. But I'd guess Patek is likely to continue the trend moving away from SS Nautilus, given how they want to be more than a one-watch company and continue to work in "noble" precious metals with the explosion of focus on the SS Nautilus and 5711a... thinking that will always support prices Just my 2 cents as an owner, YMMV! |
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5131p gas gone up by 20-30%, perhaps rarity and quality will win
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I hope prices go back to what they were 10 years ago.
Under $20k for a two tone 3800. |
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After seeing some recent auction results, price isn't dropping all that much. Interest is just shifting/spilling to other models and brands.
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I don’t see either of these two as inherently collectible due to being discontinued. The 16202 is virtually indistinguishable from the 15202 and there are enough nautilus variation that will be in production and even aquanaut are very similar premiums. Plenty of demand of course, but unlikely we cross over and people only want some neo vintage AP/Patek because the current collection can’t compete with 5711.
Therefore, I think it comes down to: is interest in watches going to keep pace with production? Or are the same people going to keep buying small variations of the same 5 watches? (Or some combination). I think there is a possibility of burn out but that’s probably my bias (there are “funner” ways to blow money at a point. I also think it’s unlikely these going to be non correlated or negatively correlated assets. |
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5711, white dial, sold for $170k at auction (Phillips) this week.
Enough said ...
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I was referring to this week May 2022: https://www.phillips.com/detail/pate...e/CH080122/236
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I assume you refer to the thread in the Rolex main forum - my only concern is the whole truth, and not just edited highlights. Black Ceramic Subs are apparently not affected by Daytona prices falling. I think that's interesting, not that I own either. |
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just stating the obvious to most here, but since market timing is close to impossible, using a portfolio based approach for volatility reduction is the only solution to this age old problem.
i find it incredibly comforting not having to care where stocks, bonds, real estate, hedge funds, US Dollar, Swiss francs, gold, crypto, art, watches, cars, etc. go ... if they all go down at the same time, our physical belongings will be the least of our worries
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A sealed 5712 and 5711 sold for 214k chf and 252k chf respectively at phillips.
Sealed versions have a premium but its the highest I've seen these two models command and definitely higher than a few months ago even if we take into account a premium of say 20% for being sealed. https://www.phillips.com/detail/pate...e/CH080122/286 https://www.phillips.com/detail/pate...e/CH080122/291 |
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