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Old 20 May 2022, 08:38 AM   #1
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Deep Sea 126660 or 136660?

Hey all,

Got a call from my AD to come pick up a Deep Sea I was on the waiting list for.

It's the 126660. I don't know whether to pick it up or to wait for the 136660.
AD said it can take months for the new model to come in or it can be next month. Decision is up to me. Price is the same. And i can not take this one and put myself on the list for a new one.

Should I take the 126660 or pass on it and wait for the 136660 ?

Also has anyone noticed that the bezel-clicks are not exactly centered on some (most) watches, meaning the arrows on top are not lined up, a quick fix for that ?

Let me know what y'all think.

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Old 20 May 2022, 08:48 AM   #2
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126660

i would take the 126660

at least you have the extension for the diving suit, not present in 136660
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Old 20 May 2022, 08:59 AM   #3
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I’m still unsure of the differences in the new model. I got the previously discontinued model in February.
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Old 20 May 2022, 09:26 AM   #4
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Not sure there’s a lot of difference. The 12 is terrific. I’m sure the 13 will be also, but you may want to take the “bird in the hand”


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Old 20 May 2022, 09:28 AM   #5
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Hard to say.
If your wrist is on the small side and you think you may be inclined to remove the divers fold out extention to get a better fit, then the 13 may be best. It also has an anti-reflective coating on the inside of the crystal which helps with readability. There's a hands on YouTube video review which shows this clearly if you are familiar with the readability of the 11's and 12's.
The larger date opening is probably a little inconsequential on the 13, but with the AR coating it may be more beneficial than I anticipate. It depends on your eyesight and how you anticipate it will fare as you get older.
The 12 is the full fat version that simply doesn't have the AR coating and slightly larger date window opening.

Personally I would hunt up the 116660 as it's better in every regard
Then I would say that because I have both variants

Which variant are you after?
The classic black or the JC?
Maybe take what's on offer and start a collection of them. After all there are 8 variations in total now
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Old 20 May 2022, 09:33 AM   #6
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Hi I just got my 126660 James Cameron. I have to tell you that I was actually in a Rolex
AD a few few weeks ago by invitation and they had ALL the new models there to look at and pick up. I was very interested in the 136660.
i saw the actual differences between the 2 models.

On the 136660 there is a slight dome on the crystal and the date window is practically NO different from the 126660. The BIG difference is in the weight ! because the 136660 does not have the diver extension anymore.... it weighs less.
The actual weight of it is 215 grams.

The 126660 weighs more because that one DOES have the diver extension. The weight of the 126660 is 225 grams.

SO... because i like a heaver watch.... i lost interest in the 136660. I would say there is virtually NO difference between the 126660 and the 136660 besides the actual weight. If you like a heavier watch.... then take the 126660. They both really look alot alike.
The SA was looking at the 2 of them side by side and said that the 136660 looked thicker because of the more domed crystal. I couldn't really see the difference in thickness but you definitely have to look close to see the difference in the crystal. It is there.
BUT.... for me... I like a heavier watch so i was happy to be able to get the 126660.

There is a video on youtube about the differences. Having seen the 136660 in the flesh i have to say that really.... it doesn't matter on appearance. The date window is still SO SMALL it really looks the same as the 126660

And this all goes for the black version as well as the James Cameron.

Here is the link to the video.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPl8bYsdKyM

Its from a guy called watch advisor if the link doesn't work.
Good luck with your choice.

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Old 20 May 2022, 09:38 AM   #7
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I have the 12, and love it. But as a matter of principle I would always get the newer model, so if you can wait, I’d wait for the 13.
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Old 20 May 2022, 10:46 AM   #8
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12 has a better clasp
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Old 20 May 2022, 11:01 AM   #9
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I’d take the 12
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Old 20 May 2022, 11:16 AM   #10
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The 12 has a domed crystal.






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Old 20 May 2022, 11:19 AM   #11
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12 has a better clasp
Clasp is the same on both. The 13 just doesn’t have the dive extension which most people remove and replace with an extra link (if needed) for better daily comfort on wrist. The bezel on 13 is thinner as in not as tall from case to Crystal which is why the crystal sticks up more and is more rounded to help offset the thinner bezel. The date window is a tad bigger on the 13. The weight difference you’ll never notice and watch weight will also very with wrist size and how many links you have.

I would get whichever you could get. The dive extension is made for diving with a wetsuit which most recreational divers don’t.

Most people don’t even understand the escape valve is only used for divers using saturation habitats which no recreational diver will ever use!
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Old 20 May 2022, 11:31 AM   #12
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Hi I just got my 126660 James Cameron. I have to tell you that I was actually in a Rolex
AD a few few weeks ago by invitation and they had ALL the new models there to look at and pick up. I was very interested in the 136660.
i saw the actual differences between the 2 models.

On the 136660 there is a slight dome on the crystal and the date window is practically NO different from the 126660. The BIG difference is in the weight ! because the 136660 does not have the diver extension anymore.... it weighs less.
The actual weight of it is 215 grams.

The 126660 weighs more because that one DOES have the diver extension. The weight of the 126660 is 225 grams.

SO... because i like a heaver watch.... i lost interest in the 136660. I would say there is virtually NO difference between the 126660 and the 136660 besides the actual weight. If you like a heavier watch.... then take the 126660. They both really look alot alike.
The SA was looking at the 2 of them side by side and said that the 136660 looked thicker because of the more domed crystal. I couldn't really see the difference in thickness but you definitely have to look close to see the difference in the crystal. It is there.
BUT.... for me... I like a heavier watch so i was happy to be able to get the 126660.

There is a video on youtube about the differences. Having seen the 136660 in the flesh i have to say that really.... it doesn't matter on appearance. The date window is still SO SMALL it really looks the same as the 126660

And this all goes for the black version as well as the James Cameron.

Here is the link to the video.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPl8bYsdKyM

Its from a guy called watch advisor if the link doesn't work.
Good luck with your choice.
Great post, thanks for the insight.

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I’d take the 12
The dome-ness might look a bit better on the 13, I would think that this tiny detail would be huge to me as it's one of the features I like about the Deepsea. The domed crystal looks plexi like and reminds me of the old school Sea-Dweller's top hat plexiglass crystal and distortion.
However, losing the diver's extension is a huge no-no for me. See the Deepsea is/was the only diver to feature the most Rolex heritage features and the most extreme expression of those features.
Thick huge oyster case w He valve, giant big crown, thick distorted dome crystal, fat oyster link bracelet tapering to the best clasp Rolex offers, matte black dial on the OG version, no cyclops, huge lume plots, caseback writing and a paragraph of text on the dial boasting Rolex marketing, and yes a useless(as much as the waterproofing) and uncomfortable to some probably will never be used just the like watch itself diver's extension clasp. Now that's gone, it's like taking away a combat medal from a war torn veteran.

Having the choice I'd pick the 12, plus it's the one available now. With Rolex's new sales strategy, you have no clue on earth when you'll actually be able to buy anything.
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Old 20 May 2022, 11:48 AM   #13
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Clasp is the same on both. The 13 just doesn’t have the dive extension which most people remove and replace with an extra link (if needed) for better daily comfort on wrist. The bezel on 13 is thinner as in not as tall from case to Crystal which is why the crystal sticks up more and is more rounded to help offset the thinner bezel. The date window is a tad bigger on the 13. The weight difference you’ll never notice and watch weight will also very with wrist size and how many links you have.

I would get whichever you could get. The dive extension is made for diving with a wetsuit which most recreational divers don’t.

Most people don’t even understand the escape valve is only used for divers using saturation habitats which no recreational diver will ever use!
You know.... I noticed the weight difference right away. I had them both on my wrist and i could tell the 12 was heavier. Then we put them on the scale and it was heavier. But i am very sensitive to the weight of a watch. I like them to be as heavy as possible. They are both lovely though. I honestly
dont think there is much of a difference besides the weight. the 8% increase in the date window is a pure joke. They looked the same to me.
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Old 20 May 2022, 03:47 PM   #14
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I have the 126660 James Cameron and while the AR coating on the 13’s crystal seems like a nice upgrade I love having the flip out extension and the extra heft of the 12. It’s a wonderful reference and I’m sure you’ll love whichever you pick, but if you can get a 12 now and at MSRP I wouldn’t hesitate.
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Old 20 May 2022, 03:50 PM   #15
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Hard to say.
If your wrist is on the small side and you think you may be inclined to remove the divers fold out extention to get a better fit, then the 13 may be best. It also has an anti-reflective coating on the inside of the crystal which helps with readability. There's a hands on YouTube video review which shows this clearly if you are familiar with the readability of the 11's and 12's.
The larger date opening is probably a little inconsequential on the 13, but with the AR coating it may be more beneficial than I anticipate. It depends on your eyesight and how you anticipate it will fare as you get older.
The 12 is the full fat version that simply doesn't have the AR coating and slightly larger date window opening.

Personally I would hunt up the 116660 as it's better in every regard
Then I would say that because I have both variants

Which variant are you after?
The classic black or the JC?
Maybe take what's on offer and start a collection of them. After all there are 8 variations in total now
Im after the James Cameron version.
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Old 20 May 2022, 04:22 PM   #16
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Im after the James Cameron version.
Very nice.
I would take what I can get and if one is on offer then go for it.
Keep in mind the JC is generally more sought after

You could start a nice collection of the 3 JC's as there's enough variation between them to justify playing in that space
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Old 20 May 2022, 04:37 PM   #17
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Very nice.
I would take what I can get and if one is on offer then go for it.
Keep in mind the JC is generally more sought after

You could start a nice collection of the 3 JC's as there's enough variation between them to justify playing in that space
Thanks for the tip.
I'm however looking to buy just one for starters.
I am truly leaning towards waiting for the 13, since I'm not really stressed about getting a watch now this instant. Yes I love it and yes it's sought after, but I'm buying it first and foremost for me. So as much as I'd love to pull the trigger on this immediately, I think it would be wiser to wait and get the newer one, just because its "newer" �� lol.
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Old 20 May 2022, 04:47 PM   #18
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Old 20 May 2022, 04:57 PM   #19
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Hi,
as a principle, I like to have the newer model.
Moreover, if somebody that tried it on the wrist
told you that the only difference with the old one
is the "dome effect a little more pronounced"
well... no doubt, I would take the 136660

I love the "dome" of the deep sea
it is what make so distinctive and peculiar the DSSD.

I would go with the 136660
ciao!

PS: my suggestion is not professional at all... I know
sorry for this
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Old 20 May 2022, 05:32 PM   #20
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Ugh!? Is there a 136660?

My poor 116660 is feeling usurped...

Should I sell, asap?
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I’d take the 12
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Old 20 May 2022, 07:24 PM   #22
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Take what they are offering you. The 12 is great.
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I prefer the date placement in the 136660 and the AR treatment. The absence of the 26mm fliplock diver extension is not a big deal to me. I would wait.
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Minimal differences but I do prefer the 126660.
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Old 20 May 2022, 09:24 PM   #25
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I own the 126660 JC and think it is a great watch. I get the updates to the 136660 but there is not enough there to make me wait. I believe "One on the wrist is worth 10 on the list".
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Old 20 May 2022, 09:30 PM   #26
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It depends on how you are going to use your DeepSea. They both use the finicky 3235 mvmt. If you're just a desk diver & don't use it what it was designed for, it'll work. The 126660 has the extended fold out extension to enable you to put it on over your wet suit. Reading the responses here, you can definitely tell who actually dives with their watch & who poses with the their watch.
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Old 20 May 2022, 09:41 PM   #27
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Since the vast majority of current owners have the 12 (13 is too new), they will obviously tell you to get the 12, and justify how it’s better - since nobody likes to admit their watch just got obsoleted by a new model.

But my advice stands: always get the new model, not the discontinued one. It’s going to hold value much better.

Full disclosure: I do have the 12 and love it.
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Old 21 May 2022, 12:11 AM   #28
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Well, i decided. Called AD and with heavy heart told em to give the 12 to the next one on the list.
For the 136660 they put me on the bottom of the list tho :(
Everything happens for a reason.
But knowing myself I'd rather have no watch than have one I look at and regret not waiting. So there, sad but it'll pass.

Thank everyone for the input.
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Old 21 May 2022, 03:52 PM   #29
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The different small details make me prefer the first 116660, because another iteration Deep Sea are for still bigger and bigger boys ...
Especially 16mm bracelet is very, very comfortable for 6,75" wrist.
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Have a 116660 Black and 126660 D-Blue ,have my name on for a 136660 D-Blue ..

What can I say ,I like the DSSDs

136660 :

Like the larger date
The more visible crystal from the side with slightly lower cut bezel .
Extension link ...havent used it in 11 years,so guess I wont miss it .

OP,last year production always a good idea .
Its either or ,but I like both .

116660 D-Blue is the original ,also not a bad idea ...and 3135 movement

Cant go wrong with a DSSD
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