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20 March 2020, 10:36 PM | #2971 | |
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Totally agree with you which is why in public anywhere I have been wearing a mask yet you still hear the “jeez” “whoa” comments in the aisles . And to those that say it doesn’t help I say bs. Wash your hands before you put the mask on wash your hands after and every time you touch it . Sucks but if done right it works . So yeah for the ones out there convincing themselves it doesn’t matter , I say get a clue but I am doing my part |
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20 March 2020, 10:46 PM | #2973 |
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Exercise to burn off that anxious energy. It helps. It also seems that the healthier you are when you get this, the better your outcome, so why not invest?
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again, as this whole thing evolves, I have learned a ton from this thread. and I still am.
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great post. cant be repeated enough.
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20 March 2020, 11:00 PM | #2976 |
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I think all we can hope is Northern Italy is an anomaly and we can avoid that level of devastation
I’m severely worried and as someone who has had mental health issues for many years it’s impact is horrendous. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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We are all experiencing this in different ways. Proximity, pace, prior experience all play into our expectations and opinions. This is compounded by the emotional aspect of health, financial and societal disruption. With those variables in mind it should not surprise anyone that views and opinions are strongly felt and sometimes expressed indelicately.
That does not however need to translate into a lack of respect... Unfortunately last night I allowed my own experience of knowing people suffering health consequences to express myself in a needlessly aggressive way. Patton250 I am sorry, you deserve better! I ask you all to recognize that for some people on this forum this discussion is purely a theoretical conversation while for others it is fast becoming a health crisis. One persons opinion can be contradicted by an other persons reality. Under such a scenario it is tempting to be dismissive of one another but ultimately doing so prevents the intended goal of informing one another. Stay safe all. |
20 March 2020, 11:11 PM | #2978 | |
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20 March 2020, 11:15 PM | #2979 | |
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20 March 2020, 11:18 PM | #2980 | |
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20 March 2020, 11:26 PM | #2981 |
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Just out of interest has anyone seen Ant Middleton’s social media posts? (Ex-SAS, on TV a lot in the U.K.)
If you think some of the posts on here are insensitive at times check him out. Total career suicide, absolute idiot. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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This is the final warning to all, keep this thread civil and on subject, as mark my words no matter the member or members responsible they will have there account closed permanently
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When making a decision in an attempt to solve a problem, you always need to ask yourself, “What if this doesn’t work?”
The US CDC, perhaps too influenced by SARS data, decided to control the development and processing of virus tests in the US. That was a bad decision- the CDC and state agencies never got output over a couple hundred tests per day. It is only now, after private industry was enlisted, that the required scale could be handled. If they had made the decion to seek help from the private sector weeks earlier, we would be in a dramatically better place now. The next decision, for the government, is “socially distance” or “ride it out”. Hong Kong, Japan, Korea and other Asian nations have had great success with social distancing. For Italy, it is too late. They are trying to self quarantine, but they are still, against their will, in a “ride it out” situation. And it is awful. They are triaging 70 year olds out of treatment, and carting off trucks of corpses for cremation. I live in freaking Arlington, Texas, and my family prays for Italy every night. So, social distancing can come too late to work. The US needs, in my opinion, to prepare for a “ride it out” even as we try social distancing. We can’t keep this up for months. I think we need to plan for a scaled up need for respirators, for quarantined hospital beds, for more medical care providers and to fast track possible treatments and vaccines. Because, despite our best efforts, we may need them. Agree or disagree? |
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NY just shut down essentially.
I hoping they do the same for NJ.
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And Mecklenburg County NC (Charlotte) has advised they may be close to shelter in place.
Stay safe.
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21 March 2020, 01:49 AM | #2989 |
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Living in California, this is a bad situation.
I understand the shut down of all "non-essential businesses" because it will slow virus transmission and not overload the health care system. But it will crush the economy by bankrupting small businesses and result in massive unemployment. There are no good choices here. The only good thing is that the internet allows remote work, remote schooling, and streaming entertainment. What would we do if the virus happened 30 years earlier and there was no internet?
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So am I, my son is working in NJ (Jersey city), he is working from his apartment. I am so worried about him.
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21 March 2020, 02:10 AM | #2991 |
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These are the possible outcomes in a pandemic.
1) Person becomes infected, recovers via natural immunity. 2) Person becomes infected, recovers after receiving antiviral agents. 3) Person becomes infected, dies. 4) Person avoids infection after isolating, avoiding infected persons. 5) Person receives vaccine effective against infecting agent. At some date in the future, there will be a vaccine, and there will probably be effective antiviral drugs to decrease the severity and duration of the infection. Until then, the ONLY practical strategy against this pandemic today is isolating. We should have done it long ago, but late is better than never. I think a nationwide lockdown in the US is mandatory, and I think we will see it by the end of the weekend. |
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While this is not good, let's please keep things in perspective. This is not the end of the world.
"So far, the new coronavirus has led to more than 220,000 illnesses and more than 9,300 deaths worldwide. But that's nothing compared with the flu, also called influenza. In the U.S. alone, the flu has caused an estimated 36 million illnesses, 370,000 hospitalizations and 22,000 deaths this season, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). " https://www.livescience.com/new-coro...-with-flu.html How many people have died of hunger this year? Almost 2 million. https://www.theworldcounts.com/chall...nger-each-year The corona virus will probably cause a peak that will stretch or break the health care systems of some countries over a relatively short period. It is not the end of the world. I suspect the greatest damage will be economic damage caused in part by poor leadership. Let's stay positive. Look at China for example. They are pulling out of this. For an example of a country that is dealing with this well, look at Singapore. |
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Antimalarial drug, Hydroxychloroquine(plaquenil), which is showing promise in treating coronavirus is now on back order for all pharmacies. |
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its about time that NYC shut down. We still had tourists wandering around the last few days. I think the tristate area and other states will soon follow suit. We are able to conduct 10,000 tests minimum a day now so expect to see the numbers spiking up dramatically over the next few days and coming week. I have free reign to travel around because I help manage and maintain an operation logistics software and system for an essential NYC government agency but I've postponed all new installs and will minimize travel to only emergency repair. The government office workers are 70% working from home except for the uniformed agencies like Sanitation, Police, and Fire are all ramping up their forces to reinforce the new "restrictions"
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21 March 2020, 02:34 AM | #2996 |
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I think London needs locking down, critical incident in one of the hospitals as they have run out of beds already
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Common Cold Causing Coronaviruses: Serotype HUK1 Serotype NL63 Serotype OC43 Serotype 229E The more serious Coronaviruses that more often result in respiratory issues compared to the prior: SARS-COV-1 MERS SARS-COV-2 I imagine we can make some solid progress towards treating symptoms at the very least though. |
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Vaccine trials are already underway in the US, and will start in the UK next month. I take this to mean a vaccine has already been produced. I don’t think they would be investing time and resources, nor would they be publicizing it, if they didn’t think it had a good chance of success. It will still be a long time before it works its way through trials and comes to market, however. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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BoJo did though just announce that pubs and restaurants in London are being shut down.
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Contrarian perspective. Carry on as normal, do nothing, let it pass through the population as quickly as possible. Short term disruption. But, back to normal as soon as possible. And, the economy keeps on rolling with only a minor hiccup.
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