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Old 6 September 2022, 02:39 PM   #1
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A couple of strange issues with brand new platinum daydate

Watch was purchased brand new from AD just a couple of months ago now .. have worn it VERY gently a small handful of times.. I’m one of those watch collectors who takes OCD level of care of my watches.. I’m ridiculous, I know .. but just wanted to mention this so you guys can know that these issues didn’t come up because of anything I did..

Can anyone help me figure out what the heck is going on here..
—-so the bracelet on the 12:00 side sir of curves to the right when it’s rested on the pillow .. when I hold it with my left hand it curves hard to the right looking like a stretched old bracelet .. but when I hold it the exact same way my right hand it doesn’t curve hard.. it just BARELY curves the way a brand new modern President bracelet should/is supposed to..
—-I looked around on chrono 24 at pics of daydates for sale to see if any of them has the issue and I found a yellow gold one with a more extreme example than mine To show y’all ..
—-so see the photos below ..
—-the other issue is with the ROLEX CROWN (5 point logo crown) on the CROWN.. it has a very poorly done metal work of some sort? I have heard platinum is like super hard to work with so maybe that’s why? Really curious if anyone can say what’s going on here .. man I HATE the idea of sending this brand new thing to RSC and worse off than that I have a really bad feeling they’re going to say that nothing is wrong with my bracelet and that it’s normal .. as for the crown no telling I guess they’d just replace it but what are y’all’s thoughts in this.?? Ridiculous that Rolex can let this slip through QC

I hate when my favorite brand disappoints me .. I’m OCD, and being OCD and watch lover/collector is a bad combo .. I’ve noticed a whole lot of nonsense QC related on many of my watches —but this is alittle extra for an almost 70 thousand dollar heavy hitter!!













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Old 6 September 2022, 02:47 PM   #2
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Have you tried toothpaste on the crown to see if it is dirt?
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Old 6 September 2022, 02:50 PM   #3
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Have you tried toothpaste on the crown to see if it is dirt?
Confirmed it’s certainly not dirt/grime
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Old 6 September 2022, 02:50 PM   #4
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Your bracelet is fine. Secondly, clean your crown with a wooden toothpick…it could just be some sort of gunk
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Old 6 September 2022, 02:54 PM   #5
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Your bracelet is fine. Secondly, clean your crown with a wooden toothpick…it could just be some sort of gunk
So you think that’s just something I should “deal with” lol I know the timing is funny after we all saw that DJ36 Thread with the OCD gentlemen on his jubilee bracelet .. however in this case it’s clearly curving to the right for no apparent reason


Yes sir confirmed it’s not anything removeable.. it’s metal and there to stay.. almost like a bad stamp that smeared . As said, I know platinum is super difficult to work with so perhaps that’s why

See the first crown photo I posted and you can tell that it’s metal, not dirt or grime

Really curious if any experts might know what’s going on here
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Old 6 September 2022, 02:55 PM   #6
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Old 6 September 2022, 03:02 PM   #7
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If you want perfection a Rolex is not for you.
I know - I’ve been through all that - I’m aware they aren’t perfect are mass produced etc etc .. I’ve been collecting many years and have a strong collection.. all brand new from AD and half of them have QC issues, some of them several on each


But this is just really more of a thread to see if any experts out there may immediately be able to point out that the bracelet is having this issue because ________ (I know there are ceramic coated pins, perhaps there’s an issue with that first link after the end links ceramic pin) .. clearly something is wrong here and just trying to see if anyone can help me figure out why and what to do about it . If we took 10 daydates right now all brand new and had a look at all of them it’s safe to say the other 9 wouldn’t have this issue —so to me at least that’s a problem ..

I have a gold daydate and it doesn’t have this issue, not at all what so ever .. but again maybe it’s more common on platinum President bracelets since they’re so insanely heavy?

As for the crown I’m absolutely stumped on that
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Old 6 September 2022, 03:03 PM   #8
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Mine does (18k wg) what you’re reporting with the bracelet. I actually like it because it’s just how my wrist bone and wrist shape is. If it didn’t it wouldn’t sit right and eventually bend that way anyway.

The crown without knowing if you’re a baker could be anything. If it’s a forge or cast (unsure snag they do) QC issue they’ll likely replace it.
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Old 6 September 2022, 03:06 PM   #9
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Mine does (18k wg) what you’re reporting with the bracelet. I actually like it because it’s just how my wrist bone and wrist shape is. If it didn’t it wouldn’t sit right and eventually bend that way anyway.

The crown without knowing if you’re a baker could be anything. If it’s a forge or cast (unsure snag they do) QC issue they’ll likely replace it.
Lol well hey that’s an interesting way to look at it ! It’s bugging the F out of me so I wish I could have the same outlook!

Yeah man the crown has me very stumped — agreed they’ll likely just replace it but dreading the idea of sending it in
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Old 6 September 2022, 03:06 PM   #10
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Take it back to the AD or a RSC and ask them?
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Old 6 September 2022, 03:10 PM   #11
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The bracelet "flows" a little bit, absolutely nothing wrong with yours. The crown looks dirty like there's some kind of gunk on it so I'd try cleaning it. Nothing wrong with the metal work unless it's some sort of stain.
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Old 6 September 2022, 03:12 PM   #12
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Take it back to the AD or a RSC and ask them?

AD doesn’t know much.. I can see it now they’ll take out some inadequate cloth that will likely put fine scratches in my watch and try to wipe the hell out of it because they’ll think it’s dirt or grime .. and then as for the bracelet they’ll just say that it’s normal .. i feel like they’ll be a hopeless cause, lol.. just venting but yes I’ll of course be doing that I just posted this hoping someone can know what’s going on here and if there is a fix .. I know RSC seems like the go to option here, but sometimes specialists are the most passionate and take a different level of pride in their work.. perhaps a bracelet specialist- aren’t there guys out there who fix the stretched President bracelets? Maybe one of those guys have input to give?

As for the crown I’m pretty stuck there - not much to do except get it replaced
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Old 6 September 2022, 03:20 PM   #13
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the finishing on the crown is terrible, i would take it to the RSC to replace it under warranty.
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Old 6 September 2022, 03:34 PM   #14
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my DD doesn't do that curve thing but I've only worn it on like 5 occasions on very very special days.

Re the crown, it does look horrible... mine is not like that. I don't have a phone that can take a clean pick of mine though...
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So you think that’s just something I should “deal with” lol I know the timing is funny after we all saw that DJ36 Thread with the OCD gentlemen on his jubilee bracelet .. however in this case it’s clearly curving to the right for no apparent reason
No I’m not saying you should just deal with it (if there’s actually something wrong), I just don’t think there’s anything wrong with the bracelet. I mean of course it’s going to lean to the right if your going to hold it the way you are in photo #3

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Yes sir confirmed it’s not anything removeable.. it’s metal and there to stay.. almost like a bad stamp that smeared . As said, I know platinum is super difficult to work with so perhaps that’s why

See the first crown photo I posted and you can tell that it’s metal, not dirt or grime

Really curious if any experts might know what’s going on here
Best thing to do is to have it replaced by RSC
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Old 6 September 2022, 03:58 PM   #16
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No I’m not saying you should just deal with it (if there’s actually something wrong), I just don’t think there’s anything wrong with the bracelet. I mean of course it’s going to lean to the right if your going to hold it the way you are in photo #3

But that’s why I posted photo #4 - to show that holding it the exact same way but with opposite hands that it only leans one way.. to your point, photo #4 should look exactly like #3 photo except of course oppositely... But it doesn’t, it is properly tight for the left.. also, I mentioned that it curves to the right in its “resting on pillow“ pics
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Old 6 September 2022, 04:37 PM   #17
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. also, I mentioned that it curves to the right in its “resting on pillow“ pics

Please read that back to yourself.

First the Jubilee bracelet, now we got a DD won’t sit right on its pillow.
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Old 6 September 2022, 05:13 PM   #18
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Please read that back to yourself.

First the Jubilee bracelet, now we got a DD won’t sit right on its pillow.

Yep - regardless of how ridiculous that thread was he ended up being correct and I referenced that already anyway


Additionally the reason I posted about it resting on the pillow is to demonstrate that it is indeed not curving due to me holding it in a certain way.


I also mentioned that this will sound ridiculous if you don’t pay attention to all the details
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Old 6 September 2022, 06:26 PM   #19
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Well I think it's a new watch and the bracelet will be tight. Use it a little and it'll be more supple over time. The crwon is a seperate issue, not sure if that is a QC or a dirt problem. You sure it's not just adhesive left over from the sticker? Those crowns will be stamped out from a die so it's unlikely theres a probelm with just one(?).
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Old 6 September 2022, 09:13 PM   #20
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Let’s all be honest here, that really isn’t acceptable.
It might be okay for a stretched bracelet that’s just been repaired and you’d be happy with result, but not on a near new watch.
And the stem is not great at all!

Sorry to throw salt in the wounds but unfortunately looks like it will need to go into RSC. I’d say one of the pins in the bracelet is causing the lean.


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Old 6 September 2022, 10:00 PM   #21
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I’d be inclined to send it in to RSC. Sounds like you don’t wear it much anyway, so you won’t miss it while it’s gone.
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I’d go ahead and send it in. To be honest, I’ve never heard or seen this bracelet issue before on the newer DD40s. Very strange.

For ease of reference at the RSC, I do recommend sending photos and circling your areas of concern. I had to reread your post a couple times to understand what I was looking at in the photos.

When holding the watch mid-case horizontally, does the bracelet sag more on one side vs the other?
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Old 6 September 2022, 10:21 PM   #23
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I’d go ahead and send it in. To be honest, I’ve never heard or seen this bracelet issue before on the newer DD40s. Very strange.

For ease of reference at the RSC, I do recommend sending photos and circling your areas of concern. I had to reread your post a couple times to understand what I was looking at in the photos.

When holding the watch mid-case horizontally, does the bracelet sag more on one side vs the other?
Thank you! A proper reply for someone who understands what is actually going on here. I thought I did an “Okay” way of describing this but I’ll definitely get some really descriptive pics with circling that’s a great idea.


To your question, no! Or if any it’s so incredibly minor that even my observant self didn’t detect it when i tried to see. Funny you should ask, it’s one of the very first things I checked !
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I don’t think either of these are big enough to send to RSC. The crown looks a little funky, but could just be replaced in ~10 years at first service. The bracelet looks fine to me

I think you may be overthinking quality expectations from Rolex, just my $.02


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Let’s all be honest here, that really isn’t acceptable.
It might be okay for a stretched bracelet that’s just been repaired and you’d be happy with result, but not on a near new watch.
And the stem is not great at all!

Sorry to throw salt in the wounds but unfortunately looks like it will need to go into RSC. I’d say one of the pins in the bracelet is causing the lean.


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Also a great reply ! One of the pins in the bracelet was my exact guess ! You know what sucks is, it’s wAy up there at the top.. meaning, not a removable link. How awesome would this be if it was just a removable link and I could replace the link and be done with it


Now is for the stem.. that just needs replacing I realize that and agree

I was more-so curious if anyone had an explanation as to if that outcome of
Rolex’s work there is due to platinum Being so hard to work with.. just like the whole fluted bezel thing .. how they Just finally have found a way to work with the metal to make a fluted bezel for platinum as we all know for the new model.. that’s one of the cool things about mine is that it’s one of the latest ones around that has the original smooth bezel “platinum signature look” !
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I'd live with it and send it in just before the Rolex warranty ends, but I'm not sure your OCD will be ok with that. (not being facetious)

I did just check the crown on the crown of my Daytona as best I could with my phone. lol
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Too many idiots on here saying get over it etc. I wouldn’t be happy with this piece and would send it straight back to the AD
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Also a great reply ! One of the pins in the bracelet was my exact guess ! You know what sucks is, it’s wAy up there at the top.. meaning, not a removable link. How awesome would this be if it was just a removable link and I could replace the link and be done with it


Now is for the stem.. that just needs replacing I realize that and agree

I was more-so curious if anyone had an explanation as to if that outcome of
Rolex’s work there is due to platinum Being so hard to work with.. just like the whole fluted bezel thing .. how they Just finally have found a way to work with the metal to make a fluted bezel for platinum as we all know for the new model.. that’s one of the cool things about mine is that it’s one of the latest ones around that has the original smooth bezel “platinum signature look” !

Yes that does suck and the fact you now need to send in your near new watch for repairs that aren’t from your wrong doing! Annoying!

I’ve got no explanation for the stem other than what you say about the metal being hard to work with, but who fitted that stem and thought it was of acceptable quality might need look in the rolex catalogue lol and yes rolex isn’t perfect but when your spending that much money on a top tier president you’d expect as close to perfect as possible, it isn’t a oyster perpetual


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OCD and watch collecting just doesn't fit well. Nothing is perfect. You will enjoy the hobby far more if you stop using magnification on your watches. I could find flaws everywhere if I tried. Look at a few Watchfinder Utube videos, they use such high magnification on the watches videos all the flaws of uneven finishing on the dials and movements are really very noticeable, no matter what the brand.
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I believe that, though the lighting was a bit harsh, the crown needs replacement by the RSC. Although I don’t know you, I would suggest that expensive machine made watches are not for you. I think you either accept the fact that watches are to be used and are imperfect, or go way upscale to those watches (eg ALS) which are extremely finely finished and without flaws visible to the naked eye.
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