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Old 22 September 2019, 06:07 AM   #1
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Wish I could trust the Tudor Back Bay GMT

Really want this watch but with so many having the date change problem and with the horror stories coming out about length of time for the fix...hesitant to say the least. Are the newer models less susceptible? Googling just brings up more negativity along with the usual boilerplate bubblegum from the watch mags in their early reviews... and no official word at all from Rolex / Tudor.

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Old 22 September 2019, 06:11 AM   #2
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I agree with you. Tudor has big problems on their hands. With a variety of QC issues lately it is just never good for the brand.
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Old 22 September 2019, 06:15 AM   #3
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Got one of the first ones last year...no issues. Got another one a few months back...no issues. You’re always more likely to here negative than positive. Buy it and enjoy it, it’ll be fine.


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Old 22 September 2019, 06:23 AM   #4
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I have a 2019 model (revised?) that has been FLAWLESS. I am not necessarily a “winder”’guy but have purposely left it running, in addition to letting it wind down, letting run low into power-reserve during a date change, etc. My Tudor-GMT is actually keeping better time then my Batman.

I think if you are buying a 2019/new you are fine. I will be selling mine when I get the call that my Pepsi is in.
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Old 22 September 2019, 06:30 AM   #5
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I'm confident Tudor is fixing this. No way they'll carry on making/servicing so many with a flaw that causes it to break every few months. I'm just waiting for the failure reports to die down. It will go down as the most ridiculously unreliable watch in history if they don't.
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Old 22 September 2019, 06:34 AM   #6
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I say take the chance if you buy from a good dealer they will make it right if issues arise, I can say I have been lucky with mine.
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Old 22 September 2019, 06:35 AM   #7
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Got one of the first ones last year...no issues. Got another one a few months back...no issues. You’re always more likely to here negative than positive. Buy it and enjoy it, it’ll be fine.


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This is what I have been considering as well. There are equally as many people who sing praises of the watch who have owned it for a year or longer. Dan Pierce comes to mind in this regard. I think this issue is being blown out of proportion by very frustrated people. Of course I am not absolving Tudor of quality issues nor their 2 year warranty which is a joke compared to the industry standard of 5 years.
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Old 22 September 2019, 06:38 AM   #8
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I am waiting a year before looking for one.

Gives the bad ones time to be repaired, the new ones to be produced with corrected movements, and hopefully they will by that time become more readily available from AD's with little or no wait times.
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Old 22 September 2019, 06:40 AM   #9
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I have a 2019 model (revised?) that has been FLAWLESS. I am not necessarily a “winder”’guy but have purposely left it running, in addition to letting it wind down, letting run low into power-reserve during a date change, etc. My Tudor-GMT is actually keeping better time then my Batman.

I think if you are buying a 2019/new you are fine. I will be selling mine when I get the call that my Pepsi is in.
Is there anyway to tell if it is a 2019 model?
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Old 22 September 2019, 07:23 AM   #10
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That's too bad, its a handsome watch
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Old 22 September 2019, 07:28 AM   #11
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Fiddlesticks.

We have heard more about the Rolex GMT II date moving only half-way, and the setting spring breaking on the 3186 than we have about the Tudor - by far.

Yet, the GMT II is one of the most sought after models out.
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Old 22 September 2019, 07:32 AM   #12
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Fiddlesticks.

We have heard more about the Rolex GMT II date moving only half-way, and the setting spring breaking on the 3186 than we have about the Tudor - by far.

Yet, the GMT II is one of the most sought after models out.
But the Tudor GMT has only just come out.. comparitively anyway..
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Old 22 September 2019, 07:33 AM   #13
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That's too bad, its a handsome watch
So agree - on both counts.
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Old 22 September 2019, 07:34 AM   #14
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Got one of the first ones last year...no issues. Got another one a few months back...no issues. You’re always more likely to here negative than positive. Buy it and enjoy it, it’ll be fine.


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Old 22 September 2019, 07:35 AM   #15
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No issues with mine, bought in Oct last year. If you get the opportunity, buy it and enjoy it


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Old 22 September 2019, 07:35 AM   #16
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Fiddlesticks.

We have heard more about the Rolex GMT II date moving only half-way, and the setting spring breaking on the 3186 than we have about the Tudor - by far.

Yet, the GMT II is one of the most sought after models out.
Respectfully disagree. This Tudor news is big and has been growing as more and more people are being told it will be six months or more to repair their watch. Which represents 25% of their underwhelming warranty period, btw.

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PS - only anecdotal I know but this is the first time I have personally heard about the GMT II date problem you cite.
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Old 22 September 2019, 07:53 AM   #17
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I've had my Tudor GMT for about a month with no issues. Very consistent and accurate. I DID have to send my BB Chrono back due to the minute hand not returning to zero, but hanging at 1 minute.
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Old 22 September 2019, 08:50 AM   #18
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Had mine for a couple of months now. No problems to report. Gets a lot of wrist time.
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Old 22 September 2019, 09:35 AM   #19
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Bought mine in April for my birthday and have had no issues.

I feel like this issue is made a bigger deal than it actually is, similar to the Porsche IMS I
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Old 22 September 2019, 10:09 AM   #20
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My Tudor black bay is dead nuts accurate. Wear it everyday 24hrs. . Great watch!
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Old 22 September 2019, 10:17 AM   #21
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My Tudor black bay is dead nuts accurate. Wear it everyday 24hrs. . Great watch!
Same with my Black Bay 41. Then again, mine has the ETA movement...
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Old 22 September 2019, 01:44 PM   #22
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IMO the primary concern is less about the movement’s reliability (or lack thereof) and more about Tudor’s inadequate warranty turn-around times. Mechanical things fail; Tudor needs to do better at managing the customer experience when repairs are required.
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Old 22 September 2019, 07:40 PM   #23
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Old 22 September 2019, 07:44 PM   #24
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I picked up one of the very first ones in June last year. It's never skipped a beat. No problems at all.
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Old 22 September 2019, 09:29 PM   #25
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Got one of the first ones last year...no issues. Got another one a few months back...no issues. You’re always more likely to here negative than positive. Buy it and enjoy it, it’ll be fine.


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This is what I have been considering as well. There are equally as many people who sing praises of the watch who have owned it for a year or longer. Dan Pierce comes to mind in this regard. I think this issue is being blown out of proportion by very frustrated people. Of course I am not absolving Tudor of quality issues nor their 2 year warranty which is a joke compared to the industry standard of 5 years.
Agreed, the forums can create an unrealistic wave, both pro & con. The least Tudor should do is extend the warranties to 5 years.

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Fiddlesticks.

We have heard more about the Rolex GMT II date moving only half-way, and the setting spring breaking on the 3186 than we have about the Tudor - by far.

Yet, the GMT II is one of the most sought after models out.
I remember a date issue with the Day/ Date. Seems a few don't mind taking an opportunity for a little brand bashing as well.
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Old 22 September 2019, 10:06 PM   #26
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I have owned two of the Tudor GMT's. I got the first one from my AD when released and wore it for a while before selling it. No issues, but I owned a Rolex WG Pepsi and I thought it duplicated. Out goes the Rolex and back comes the Tudor GMT. Neither Tudor Pepsi has had any issues and runs spot on. Everyone has a preference and an opinion but my experience with Tudor ownership has been spot on. That does not mean in the future I will not have an issue but I am far enough down the road to see it for what it is. A disappointment but not the end of the world and it can be sorted. I would not let an issue with a cool watch, that has reportedly been fixed, slow me down from ownership. Just my thoughts.
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Old 22 September 2019, 10:16 PM   #27
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Had mine since December 2018 with no issues. Seems like the newer ones are much less likely to have the issue but in the end you never know. I wouldn't let it stop you from picking one up. Worst case sceneario is they take care of if and you are without it for a few months. Remember when you do internet searchers you are much more likely to hear from the people who are angry and who had issue than the thousands of others who have not had a problem. Just human nature. Love mine and if I eventually have the issue I'll let RSC fix it - but I'm keeping this watch long-term. It's such a fantastick piece and a total bargain at $3K-3.5K
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Old 23 September 2019, 12:08 AM   #28
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Bought the Tudor GMT from an AD summer 2018. Got it on leather because I knew the rivet bracelet would bug me. Had the date issue after 2 months of ownership. Sent to RSC Dallas and they had it for 3 weeks or so. Went in at +6 sec and came back at +3. Then sourced a new Black Bay non-rivet bracelet and installed it. This watch gets tons of compliments and I like it but it’s a presence on the wrist. Not so much the 41mm face, but the 14.9mm thickness wears big to me. Considering the availability of Rolex GMTs, the Tudor is awesome.

A quick word on RSC Dallas. They were professional when I called but not apologetic at all and I had to pay to send it in. It went in clean with desk swirls and came back clean with desk swirls and I was very pleased the hands were re-installed perfectly. No issues with date change since the service.

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Old 23 September 2019, 12:52 AM   #29
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I think its terrible Tudor has had these issues and sounds like some long wait times on the fix. I experienced the date issue and it was resolved fairly quickly in late 2018.

This is an amazing watch and I cannot get it off my wrist. It competes with a SubC as a daily. The BLRO and BLNR peek their heads out of the box every now and then, but this is a terrific every day tool watch. Personally, I would not let the date issue hold me back.

Tudor's first GMT is a good one. I love the proportions, the rivet bracelet (they are not real noticeable anyway) and the watch is a strap monster to boot.
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I have owned two of the Tudor GMT's. I got the first one from my AD when released and wore it for a while before selling it. No issues, but I owned a Rolex WG Pepsi and I thought it duplicated. Out goes the Rolex and back comes the Tudor GMT. Neither Tudor Pepsi has had any issues and runs spot on. Everyone has a preference and an opinion but my experience with Tudor ownership has been spot on. That does not mean in the future I will not have an issue but I am far enough down the road to see it for what it is. A disappointment but not the end of the world and it can be sorted. I would not let an issue with a cool watch, that has reportedly been fixed, slow me down from ownership. Just my thoughts.
Excellent and well thought-out response. Food for thought.

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