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Old 2 March 2019, 07:18 AM   #1
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Different "True explanation" of Zaratsu polishing

Interesting GS article in latest issue of QP. According to the article the term Zaratsu is just the phonetic adaptation of the first manual polishing machines imported by Seiko which were made by a German brand called Sallatz. Nothing to do with Japanese metalwork or samurai sword making!
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Old 2 March 2019, 07:44 AM   #2
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As much as I love the level of finish and polish especially on the hands and index markers.....I have always known the zaratsu bit to be marketing from Seiko being in Japan. Not surprised by this.
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Old 3 March 2019, 04:03 AM   #3
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As much as I love the level of finish and polish especially on the hands and index markers.....I have always known the zaratsu bit to be marketing from Seiko being in Japan. Not surprised by this.
Watches is all about marketing.
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Old 3 March 2019, 06:48 AM   #4
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Watches is all about marketing.
business is all about marketing
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Marketing is all about perception.
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Old 3 March 2019, 07:28 AM   #6
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Perception is all about business.
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Old 4 March 2019, 04:50 AM   #7
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Nonsense. It takes 40 years of training to become a Zaratsu polisher and you have to trace your blood line back 100% to the original Ninja cartel. There are only five Zaratsus left and they all work in Morioka and Shiojiri. If you don’t believe me just hold a GS up to the light.


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Old 4 March 2019, 04:52 AM   #8
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Perception is all about altering reality.
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Old 6 March 2019, 01:24 AM   #9
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Wouldn’t surprise me if it was a lot of marketing spiel!


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Old 6 March 2019, 02:23 AM   #10
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Whatever it is, it looks good.
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Old 7 March 2019, 07:07 PM   #11
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It's no secret. See paragraph 2: https://www.grand-seiko.com/au-en/sp...tories/vol2/2/
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Old 7 March 2019, 11:40 PM   #12
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This. I'm new to GS (as in, I started researching about 3 weeks ago), and I found this pretty quickly in my search.

What were the old ideas around zaratsu?
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This. I'm new to GS (as in, I started researching about 3 weeks ago), and I found this pretty quickly in my search.



What were the old ideas around zaratsu?


Read up to my ninja quote. That was the myth. Now officially debunked.


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Old 9 March 2019, 12:17 PM   #14
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Great. Thanks for sharing

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It doesn't change that they are finished to a degree not found on any other watch in its price range.

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Old 11 March 2019, 12:55 AM   #17
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Totally agree. I’ve no idea how much how much you’d have to spend to get a finished watch. If it’s even possible? Except Credor.


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A better finished watch.


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It doesn't change that they are finished to a degree not found on any other watch in its price range.
Totally agree. I had never even heard of Grand Seiko 6 months ago but now I have two, I am def impressed.
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Different "True explanation" of Zaratsu polishing

Here’s a cool picture of zaratsu polishing on display



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