Traded my trusty Sea Dweller.

[morgman]

For a minty PAM111!

I know they made a few thousand of these with the painted dials
and smaller polished crown guard, but this is the first one I've seen
in the flesh.

Excuse the poor quality pics...and hope I don't miss the dweller!

[JF23]

Congrats! She's a beaute!!!

And welcome to the triple1 club!

[morgman]

Originally Posted by JF23

Congrats! She's a beaute!!!

And welcome to the triple1 club!

Thanks!!!

Now I need to figure out whether or not to keep my 000J.
I love them both, but they really do look damn near alike.

What's been your favorite strap on the 111?

[JF23]

Originally Posted by morgman

Thanks!!!

Now I need to figure out whether or not to keep my 000J.
I love them both, but they really do look damn near alike.

Trade it towards a 243!!! Man I love that piece!

What's been your favorite strap on the 111?

I don't think I could choose just one, been sporting the OEM rubber like in your pic, and GSD quite a bit lately. I really would like to find a distressed, light colored ammo in 26mm and see how it looks squeezed between the 24mm lugs.

[morgman]

Originally Posted by JF23

Trade it towards a 243!!! Man I love that piece!



I don't think I could choose just one, been sporting the OEM rubber like in your pic, and GSD quite a bit lately. I really would like to find a distressed, light colored ammo in 26mm and see how it looks squeezed between the 24mm lugs.

Ahh...the 243
That one has been on the "wish-list" for a while.
Maybe if I also sell both my Logo & 42mm Planet Ocean.
The planet ocean is a killer watch, esp at the pricepoint,
but it does get outclassed when up against rolex/panerai.
I need to try and limit big ticket items for a while unless
I do the trade/sell thing.

I may hit a similar problem with the 243 looking too close
to the 24 which I already have. (BTW, the 24 is by far the most
favorite piece that I've owned...I never get bored of it.)

[Trurolexer]

Congrats For Triple 1!!!
Great decision!!!

[jamesh]

Originally Posted by morgman

Ahh...the 243
That one has been on the "wish-list" for a while.
Maybe if I also sell both my Logo & 42mm Planet Ocean.
The planet ocean is a killer watch, esp at the pricepoint,
but it does get outclassed when up against rolex/panerai.
I need to try and limit big ticket items for a while unless
I do the trade/sell thing.

I may hit a similar problem with the 243 looking too close
to the 24 which I already have. (BTW, the 24 is by far the most
favorite piece that I've owned...I never get bored of it.)

Hi Morgman

Glad to hear a positive report about the 24. I have recently acquired the "itch" after seeing one in person. I'd never really cared for them much before I think because pictures don't do them justice - but on the wrist and in person they're a stunning watch!

Hope to join the club soon

[JF23]

Originally Posted by morgman

I may hit a similar problem with the 243 looking too close to the 24 which I already have. (BTW, the 24 is by far the most
favorite piece that I've owned...I never get bored of it.)

I would love to see some pics of your 24.

[Trurolexer]

welcome to the darkside!!!

[mfer]

Great shots!!!!

So what made you decide to go painted? I'm thinking the same thing here. I'm looking at a 111G which is painted. I'm thinking that b/c I'm also thinking about a 210 or 232 which are rad sammies.

[morgman]

Originally Posted by jamesh

Hi Morgman

Glad to hear a positive report about the 24. I have recently acquired the "itch" after seeing one in person. I'd never really cared for them much before I think because pictures don't do them justice - but on the wrist and in person they're a stunning watch!

Hope to join the club soon

I had the same experience at first with the 24. It didn't do much for me a few years back. I was really wanting a 25 instead. Then the last time I tried the 24 on, it put such an instant smile on my face. It's by far the most favorite piece I have. I was able to compare it with a 25 at the same time and it was no contest. The 25 looked dark and dingy next to it, even though I really like the hobnail dial.

I find that the 24 has a really nice balance of visual features: Brushed bezel against the polished case/crownguard. Slightly smaller dial with applied markers. Skeleton hands. Slightly smaller cyclops (some have a larger cyclops with more visible edge than mine) Polished hobnails on the bezel that pick up light and sparkle. It's rugged, yet can be dressy. I really enjoy it.

The 243 is the other one I like, but it definitely does look smaller next to the 24, and is all brushed, so it may not go as well with everything. I love the thicker crystal and the beefier bezel. The crown guard also makes it look more rugged/tool. I really like that 1950 case. It's definitely a great watch and one that I'm still eyeing. I don't know if it's worth the price difference though for a new one, maybe used.

Others that I like but are no longer available are the 194 large sub, the blue and black dial subzillas, and the blue dial North Pole GMT. I haven't seen any of them in person though.

I'll try to take some pics of the 24, but you are right, in person it seems much more rocking. There is a great pic in their 07 or 08 catalog of the 24 if you have that.

[morgman]

Originally Posted by mfer

Great shots!!!!

So what made you decide to go painted? I'm thinking the same thing here. I'm looking at a 111G which is painted. I'm thinking that b/c I'm also thinking about a 210 or 232 which are rad sammies.

I think painted ones look more sporty, but can still dress up. The numbers and hour markers are maybe just a bit fatter, but seem a LOT fatter when you look at the watch from more of an angle. The sandwich dial lettering starts to disappear at an angle, and to me, it's just a more dressy look.
I also like the "PANERAI PANERAI" movement more than the newer ones.

Under some lighting conditions, the painted letters look like they're on top of the dial, and under other conditions, they look flush or inset, which I find kind of neat.

Now, this is not to say that I don't like the sandwich dial ones. I really like the newer 177's and love the 233, and would even consider the sandwich 111's.

[mfer]

Originally Posted by morgman

I think painted ones look more sporty, but can still dress up. The numbers and hour markers are maybe just a bit fatter, but seem a LOT fatter when you look at the watch from more of an angle. The sandwich dial lettering starts to disappear at an angle, and to me, it's just a more dressy look.
I also like the "PANERAI PANERAI" movement more than the newer ones.

Under some lighting conditions, the painted letters look like they're on top of the dial, and under other conditions, they look flush or inset, which I find kind of neat.

Now, this is not to say that I don't like the sandwich dial ones. I really like the newer 177's and love the 233, and would even consider the sandwich 111's.

I've seen pics of the flush/inset you mention over on paneristi. I'm dieing to see one in the metal. I think I'm really down to wanting a SS Lum with a second hand. A 1 or 111. I just need to line out the paint/sammy, then I can buy. I'm trying to be careful so I don't flip.

[oyster21]

Congrat Morgman! Wear in good health.

The dark twin brother says hello...!

[morgman]

Originally Posted by mfer

I've seen pics of the flush/inset you mention over on paneristi. I'm dieing to see one in the metal. I think I'm really down to wanting a SS Lum with a second hand. A 1 or 111. I just need to line out the paint/sammy, then I can buy. I'm trying to be careful so I don't flip.

What about a current model 005 which has a painted dial like the old 111's? I also like the 104's, and they are maybe a bit more functional as a daily wearer. I wouldn't mind either of those.

From what I've gathered, the later 01's are basically the same as the early 111's, minus the display caseback that's on the 111E/F, and the brushed crown guard of the 111G. I find the display caseback a plus. The 111's also have the upgraded movement.

The other thing I noticed the current 000's, 005's, and the older painted dial 111's have smaller, less obtrusive lettering on the dial. That is purely an aesthetic difference, but it is noticable when you have them side by side. Also, the new 111's have a more cream colored lettering instead of white.

[brainbizz]

24 and 243 two different animals. The 24 is smaller in thickness and more of a daily wearer. 243 also has a tritium dial.

[mfer]

Originally Posted by brainbizz

24 and 243 two different animals. The 24 is smaller in thickness and more of a daily wearer. 243 also has a tritium dial.

How does that 24 compare to a 111 for the size and feel on a wrist? It is much bigger? Like a 45mm Rad looks and feels smaller than a 44mm Lum.

Is the 44mm Sub bigger than the 44mm Lum?

Is this making sense?

[morgman]

Originally Posted by mfer

How does that 24 compare to a 111 for the size and feel on a wrist? It is much bigger? Like a 45mm Rad looks and feels smaller than a 44mm Lum.

Is the 44mm Sub bigger than the 44mm Lum?

Is this making sense?

It's a bit heavier/taller. You definitely know it's there more, but in a good way! The actual case size is the same. The caseback on the 111 is thinner than the automatics. I definitely wouldn't say it's "much bigger". If you pull off a 111, you can pull off the 24

[morgman]

Originally Posted by brainbizz

24 and 243 two different animals. The 24 is smaller in thickness and more of a daily wearer. 243 also has a tritium dial.

Have you ever measured the thickness on that 243? I'd be curious to know what the specs are. Unfort, it seems the new K series 243's are coming with Luminova. Love both of those

[mfer]

Originally Posted by morgman

It's a bit heavier/taller. You definitely know it's there more, but in a good way! The actual case size is the same. The caseback on the 111 is thinner than the automatics. I definitely wouldn't say it's "much bigger". If you pull off a 111, you can pull off the 24

Thanks for the feedback. I'm going to stick with the 001, 111 or 005 for my first. The wait is driving me crazy!!!!!

[brainbizz]

I have never measured the differences. The 24 wears slightly larger than luminor but very similar. The 243 I notice much more and rarely wear it. If forced to pick one it would depend on daily wearer or once in a while wearer. Both great watches but different.