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jamesh · 26 November 2008, 03:30 PM

Appreciate any advice here from experienced PAM owners...

I've always bought new but now considering buying a pre-owned PAM 24 (2003 model I think) from a local dealer. It seems in good condition on the surface but I'm thinking what may have happened to it in the last 5 or so years since bought new - has it been dropped, serviced with non-genuine parts, etc...

The asking price is US$4,900 vs. current new price of about $US6,300.

I guess what I'm after is some reassurance that in general it's ok to buy a used PAM and it's worth buying used to save the 22% or so off new price...?

Thanks, James

andrewls24 · 26 November 2008, 03:38 PM

I bought a preowned PAM 90 for 5500 vs 7400 new and have loved my decision every day. Make sure you check out the seller though. Good luck

Trurolexer · 26 November 2008, 04:40 PM

If the item still in good condition, go for it.

morgman · 26 November 2008, 05:07 PM

I bought my PAM24 used also. It's my favorite watch. Just make sure it's a reputable dealer, you get a warranty, etc.

mfer · 27 November 2008, 12:53 AM

You can get better than $4900 from him I bet. I'd try at least another 10% off. Market is DOWN!!! Take advantage of it since you have the cash!

Does it have the triple boxes and all matching serial numbers? That is a good indicator!

alohanakoni · 27 November 2008, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mfer

You can get better than $4900 from him I bet. I'd try at least another 10% off. Market is DOWN!!! Take advantage of it since you have the cash!

Does it have the triple boxes and all matching serial numbers? That is a good indicator!

i agree!

B. Doggy · 27 November 2008, 03:24 AM

There's always a little risk in buying used. I find that piece of mind is worth paying retail because I like knowing for sure each time I look at my wrist!

Vito_Corleone · 27 November 2008, 04:09 AM

I try to never buy anything new. Used prices are sooo much better. Just make sure you're getting boxes and papers. You can also go to another dealer and have them check out the movement and everything for you.

jamesh · 27 November 2008, 03:53 PM

Thanks for the feedback guys - sounds like generally ok but check the papers!

GBJIV · 27 November 2008, 04:18 PM

due diligence.

bigmikebee · 28 November 2008, 12:50 PM

unless you open the watch, and most owners wont do so, you 'll never know.......the replicas are so exact its unbelievable. i ve seen some pieces out of thailand that have fooled several dealers. use common sense and a little bit of faith along w/ luck. will get you want you want. i wish u the best.

dman · 28 November 2008, 02:47 PM

Buy the seller, and get references. And if you are not 100% confident, walk away.

jamesh · 28 November 2008, 03:27 PM

Thanks again guys.

With the advice I got here, I took the plunge and went with a dealer I've visisted a few times, who as been around for a long time and seem legit.

I got the 183 - it's a "J" series so I think that's 2005 release (?) and seems in good condition. I guess with the 183 the fact that it has an open case back gives me a little more confidence as I can see some of what's going on inside...

Anyway, love the watch and will post some pics soon.

James

26 November 2008, 03:30 PM	#1
jamesh "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 219	Risks of buying pre-owned PAM? Appreciate any advice here from experienced PAM owners... I've always bought new but now considering buying a pre-owned PAM 24 (2003 model I think) from a local dealer. It seems in good condition on the surface but I'm thinking what may have happened to it in the last 5 or so years since bought new - has it been dropped, serviced with non-genuine parts, etc... The asking price is US$4,900 vs. current new price of about $US6,300. I guess what I'm after is some reassurance that in general it's ok to buy a used PAM and it's worth buying used to save the 22% or so off new price...? Thanks, James

26 November 2008, 03:38 PM	#2
andrewls24 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Andrew Location: Bethesda, MD Watch: SS Daytona Posts: 79	I bought a preowned PAM 90 for 5500 vs 7400 new and have loved my decision every day. Make sure you check out the seller though. Good luck __________________ ------------------ SS Daytona - Black, SS Ceramic Daytona - White SS GMT IIc, Panerai - PAM 90, Ceramic Bluesy, SS Subc

27 November 2008, 12:53 AM	#5
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,723	You can get better than $4900 from him I bet. I'd try at least another 10% off. Market is DOWN!!! Take advantage of it since you have the cash! Does it have the triple boxes and all matching serial numbers? That is a good indicator! __________________ member#3242

27 November 2008, 04:18 PM	#10
GBJIV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Jackson Location: So. California Posts: 2,893	due diligence. __________________ Jackson

28 November 2008, 02:47 PM	#12
dman Lifetime TRF Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Daren Location: Austin Watch: the road Posts: 13,583	Buy the seller, and get references. And if you are not 100% confident, walk away. __________________ You either get it or you don't, if you have to ask, YOU DON'T!! I really hope that midget cop doesn't find me in Kokomo.

26 November 2008, 04:40 PM	#3
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	If the item still in good condition, go for it.

26 November 2008, 05:07 PM	#4
morgman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 475	I bought my PAM24 used also. It's my favorite watch. Just make sure it's a reputable dealer, you get a warranty, etc.

27 November 2008, 03:24 AM	#7
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	There's always a little risk in buying used. I find that piece of mind is worth paying retail because I like knowing for sure each time I look at my wrist!

27 November 2008, 04:09 AM	#8
Vito_Corleone Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: SC Posts: 75	I try to never buy anything new. Used prices are sooo much better. Just make sure you're getting boxes and papers. You can also go to another dealer and have them check out the movement and everything for you.

27 November 2008, 03:53 PM	#9
jamesh "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 219	Thanks for the feedback guys - sounds like generally ok but check the papers!

28 November 2008, 12:50 PM	#11
bigmikebee "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA Posts: 359	unless you open the watch, and most owners wont do so, you 'll never know.......the replicas are so exact its unbelievable. i ve seen some pieces out of thailand that have fooled several dealers. use common sense and a little bit of faith along w/ luck. will get you want you want. i wish u the best.

28 November 2008, 03:27 PM	#13
jamesh "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 219	Thanks again guys. With the advice I got here, I took the plunge and went with a dealer I've visisted a few times, who as been around for a long time and seem legit. I got the 183 - it's a "J" series so I think that's 2005 release (?) and seems in good condition. I guess with the 183 the fact that it has an open case back gives me a little more confidence as I can see some of what's going on inside... Anyway, love the watch and will post some pics soon. James

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