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Old 22 March 2018, 07:25 AM   #1
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World's Most Expensive SUV, $2.2M.US - only ten Karlmann Kings built

Has anyone seen it in the wild??

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...6-million.html
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Old 22 March 2018, 07:28 AM   #2
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Neat! Ive never seen one in person before. I don't like the exterior but the interior looks stunning!

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Old 22 March 2018, 07:46 AM   #3
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I think it may go the way of it’s name, “it is unclear why Carloman was chosen to give his name to the vehicle, as he appears to have had a short and troublesome reign before dying of natural causes.......”

Of course Saudi princes and the like used to buy up these bulletproof monstrosities but now with the new ruler, their threat may be coming from a different direction.
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Old 22 March 2018, 07:47 AM   #4
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I call BS. Gross sales of 22M (10cars). That wouldn’t even start to cover the development costs. Not to mention patent royalty costs.

A chinese CAD artist on the hand, and a 30% deposit. I smell money.
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Old 22 March 2018, 08:02 AM   #5
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Ugly POS. I vote for photoshop fake.

Proper princes want MB and BMW for armored luxury cars. Nobody does executive armor like BMW, and anybody looking for armor knows it.
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Old 22 March 2018, 08:09 AM   #6
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It has way too many angles and creases in the body lines and I'm not sure why quite frankly. Is it trying to look like a huge black gemstone?
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Old 22 March 2018, 08:47 AM   #7
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Hope to never see one !

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Old 22 March 2018, 08:55 AM   #8
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My first reaction was that I love it.

But it’s not true. I hate it.
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Old 22 March 2018, 09:54 AM   #9
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Still not as cool as the SUV with whale penis leather.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/jalopni...is-leather/amp
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Old 22 March 2018, 10:30 AM   #10
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Still not as cool as the SUV with whale penis leather.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/jalopni...is-leather/amp


2 million is a joke for this suburban with ugly body panels. 87 mph max? You better get bulletproof because you ain't getting away!
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Old 22 March 2018, 11:39 AM   #11
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It would go well with our bunker in the mid-west.
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Old 22 March 2018, 11:55 AM   #13
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I hope radar detectors don't work on it.
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Old 22 March 2018, 04:32 PM   #14
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I've always wondered about the 'Achilles Heel' of armoured vehicles.
Surely the wheels/tyres are the most vulnerable point?
Take those out and it's just a big expensive sitting duck.
Am I missing something?
(that will never be built)
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Old 22 March 2018, 09:01 PM   #15
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I've always wondered about the 'Achilles Heel' of armoured vehicles.
Surely the wheels/tyres are the most vulnerable point?
Take those out and it's just a big expensive sitting duck.
Am I missing something?
(that will never be built)
They make “bullet proof” tires. While you can’t drive at speed, they’re designed to allow you to remain mobile if/when the tires are damaged.
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Old 22 March 2018, 09:28 PM   #16
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I've always wondered about the 'Achilles Heel' of armoured vehicles.
Surely the wheels/tyres are the most vulnerable point?
Take those out and it's just a big expensive sitting duck.
Am I missing something?
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They make “bullet proof” tires. While you can’t drive at speed, they’re designed to allow you to remain mobile if/when the tires are damaged.
The newer airless tires can drive at speed with battle damage.
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Old 22 March 2018, 09:33 PM   #17
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After reading all your negative replies here I decided to cancel my order.
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Old 22 March 2018, 09:37 PM   #18
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After reading all your negative replies here I decided to cancel my order.
It's not a convertible, so you wouldn't have been happy anyway.
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Old 22 March 2018, 09:38 PM   #19
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Still not as cool as the SUV with whale penis leather.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/jalopni...is-leather/amp
Is all interior from one penis or did they use more than one?

I wouldn't feel comfortable sitting on these seats...i will pass.
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Old 22 March 2018, 10:14 PM   #20
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I wouldn't want that even if it was free.
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Old 22 March 2018, 10:16 PM   #21
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It's not a convertible, so you wouldn't have been happy anyway.
They said they would cut the roof off for me.
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Old 22 March 2018, 10:36 PM   #22
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They make “bullet proof” tires. While you can’t drive at speed, they’re designed to allow you to remain mobile if/when the tires are damaged.
I wasn't thinking so much of tyres with a few bullets in them as tyres blown right off the rim. Maybe no rim left either. Surely these days the weapon of choice is an RPG rather than a rifle.
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Old 22 March 2018, 10:57 PM   #23
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I wasn't thinking so much of tyres with a few bullets in them as tyres blown right off the rim. Maybe no rim left either. Surely these days the weapon of choice is an RPG rather than a rifle.
The steel skeleton tires can absorb a lot of battle damage. If they get hit by something big enough to blow off the tire, the passengers should consider themselves fortunate that the cabin didn’t take that hit.

An RPG will penetrate several inches of high density armor plate with ease. No one is going to be aiming them at the tires. They’ll be center of mass on the target, where the people are sitting.
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Old 25 March 2018, 05:06 AM   #24
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I've always wondered about the 'Achilles Heel' of armoured vehicles.
Surely the wheels/tyres are the most vulnerable point?
Take those out and it's just a big expensive sitting duck.
Am I missing something?
(that will never be built)
I am under the impression the underside is the main issue with armored vehicles. I've been told they can be made very tough.
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Old 25 March 2018, 05:10 AM   #25
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I am under the impression the underside is the main issue with armored vehicles. I've been told they can be made very tough.
I assume that is just to protect against an isolated ied?
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I assume that is just to protect against an isolated ied?
yessir, the IED's are tough because the under sides are so flat, I've been told.

Some of the newer armored vehicles that take into account IED attacks have v-shapes on the bottom (like a boat).

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"Mine protected V-shape hull

Buffalo’s armoured v-shaped hull directs an explosion on the ground away from the vehicle. The Buffalo provides powerful ballistic and blast protection, combined with the unique technology to detect dangerous ordinance.

"The first Buffalo was deployed in Afghanistan in 2003 with the US Army Corps of Engineers."
The Buffalo features steel wheels and disc rollers that allow the vehicle to roll over a detonator without sustaining injuries to the crew in the vehicle. It offers protection from improvised explosive devices (IEDs) – up to a 45lb landmine explosion under any wheel or a 30lb mine explosion under the centreline.

It is armoured against 7.62mm×51mm Nato ball standard and is equipped with BAE Systems L-ROD aluminium armour that protects vehicles from rocket-propelled grenade attacks. The mounted camera on the arm helps the crew to dispose of mines and IEDs from within the V-shaped armoured hull." -- http://www.army-technology.com/projects/buffalo/
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Old 27 March 2018, 08:16 AM   #27
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yessir, the IED's are tough because the under sides are so flat, I've been told.

Some of the newer armored vehicles that take into account IED attacks have v-shapes on the bottom (like a boat).

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"Mine protected V-shape hull

Buffalo’s armoured v-shaped hull directs an explosion on the ground away from the vehicle. The Buffalo provides powerful ballistic and blast protection, combined with the unique technology to detect dangerous ordinance.

"The first Buffalo was deployed in Afghanistan in 2003 with the US Army Corps of Engineers."
The Buffalo features steel wheels and disc rollers that allow the vehicle to roll over a detonator without sustaining injuries to the crew in the vehicle. It offers protection from improvised explosive devices (IEDs) – up to a 45lb landmine explosion under any wheel or a 30lb mine explosion under the centreline.

It is armoured against 7.62mm×51mm Nato ball standard and is equipped with BAE Systems L-ROD aluminium armour that protects vehicles from rocket-propelled grenade attacks. The mounted camera on the arm helps the crew to dispose of mines and IEDs from within the V-shaped armoured hull." -- http://www.army-technology.com/projects/buffalo/
But how's the fuel economy?
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Old 27 March 2018, 08:33 AM   #28
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yessir, the IED's are tough because the under sides are so flat, I've been told.

Some of the newer armored vehicles that take into account IED attacks have v-shapes on the bottom (like a boat). and:


"Mine protected V-shape hull

Buffalo’s armoured v-shaped hull directs an explosion on the ground away from the vehicle. The Buffalo provides powerful ballistic and blast protection, combined with the unique technology to detect dangerous ordinance.

"The first Buffalo was deployed in Afghanistan in 2003 with the US Army Corps of Engineers."
The Buffalo features steel wheels and disc rollers that allow the vehicle to roll over a detonator without sustaining injuries to the crew in the vehicle. It offers protection from improvised explosive devices (IEDs) – up to a 45lb landmine explosion under any wheel or a 30lb mine explosion under the centreline.

It is armoured against 7.62mm×51mm Nato ball standard and is equipped with BAE Systems L-ROD aluminium armour that protects vehicles from rocket-propelled grenade attacks. The mounted camera on the arm helps the crew to dispose of mines and IEDs from within the V-shaped armoured hull." -- http://www.army-technology.com/projects/buffalo/
These things are top heavy and are a roll over hazard. It's hard to survive when you're upside down in a ditch. The Air Force discontinued the MRAP for this reason.
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