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andynj · 23 October 2016, 02:39 AM

I ask because I am buying a lightly used, somewhat complicated 5170. I have seen pictures of the watch and paperwork and all looks good. I am doing the transaction face to face in the seller's office. (Out of State for me but I happen to be there next week).

I have no reason to be believe that their should be a problem (seller is more than happy for me to come to his office) but is there something I should look for?

Flywheel · 23 October 2016, 02:41 AM

Ibtl

goog53 · 23 October 2016, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by andynj

I ask because I am buying a lightly used, somewhat complicated 5170. I have seen pictures of the watch and paperwork and all looks good. I am doing the transaction face to face in the seller's office. (Out of State for me but I happen to be there next week).
I have no reason to be believe that their should be a problem (seller is more than happy for me to come to his office) but is there something I should look for?

Assuming he has box and papers, Why not just call the AD he purchased from to validate the watch is authentic?

AK797 · 23 October 2016, 02:49 AM

Post pics of it, they can't fake the back.

andynj · 23 October 2016, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Flywheel

Ibtl

Why? As far as I know this is an honest to goodness used PP transaction. I'm just asking for a little advive. GOY

andynj · 23 October 2016, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Post pics of it, they can't fake the back.

That's what I was thinking. The back looks fine in the photos and the fact that I will actually inspect the waych and papers before I buy is obviously great. That said - I'm not a watch-smith. Just wondered if there is anything specific?

goog53 · 23 October 2016, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by andynj

Why? As far as I know this is an honest to goodness used PP transaction. I'm just asking for a little advive. GOY

Flywheel obviously didn't take the time to read your post. The word choice for the topic of your thread is misleading as if you are seeking advice on if this is a good fake you are purchasing. No worries! Once again, Just call the AD as they keep records of purchase history and I am sure they haven't sold more than 5 or so 5170s in the last few years as it is a watch that ADs do not receive a ton of and at a very high price point so it should be a quick look up for them.

andynj · 23 October 2016, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by goog53

Flywheel obviously didn't take the time to read your post. The word choice for the topic of your thread is misleading as if you are seeking advice on if this is a good fake you are purchasing. No worries! Once again, Just call the AD as they keep records of purchase history and I am sure they haven't sold more than 5 or so 5170s in the last few years as it is a watch that ADs do not receive a ton of and at a very high price point so it should be a quick look up for them.

Thanks! I looked back at "Flywheel" posts and they are generally less than helpful.

andynj · 23 October 2016, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by goog53

Assuming he has box and papers, Why not just call the AD he purchased from to validate the watch is authentic?

I'm a little paranoid for such a high price transaction . I'm sure the paperwork is real - but does it match the watch?!

andynj · 23 October 2016, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by goog53

Flywheel obviously didn't take the time to read your post. The word choice for the topic of your thread is misleading as if you are seeking advice on if this is a good fake you are purchasing. No worries! Once again, Just call the AD as they keep records of purchase history and I am sure they haven't sold more than 5 or so 5170s in the last few years as it is a watch that ADs do not receive a ton of and at a very high price point so it should be a quick look up for them.

Thanks! I'm sure paperwork is real - but how can I be sure it matches the watch?
Paranoid!

Tony64 · 23 October 2016, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by andynj

Thanks! I'm sure paperwork is real - but how can I be sure it matches the watch?
Paranoid!

The paperwork will have the movement number and that should be easily visible and confirmed through the clear caseback.

PJ S · 23 October 2016, 03:59 AM

If the back matches this, then you’re fine.
Certificate Of Origin will include the movement number and calibre version, both of which are on one of the bridges, as you see in the image.
If it all tallies, you’re good to go.

If you want to play it ultra cautiously, assuming you’ll be doing a bank transfer, have him sign a written statement of what is being sold, for how much, and his account details.
That, along with the emails/texts should be sufficient to prevent him from pulling any shenanigans.

Flywheel · 23 October 2016, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by andynj

Why? As far as I know this is an honest to goodness used PP transaction. I'm just asking for a little advive. GOY

The initial headline said "fake pp." it's since been edited.

subtona · 23 October 2016, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by andynj

I ask because I am buying a lightly used, somewhat complicated 5170.

I object

Socal to az · 23 October 2016, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Flywheel

Ibtl

What does this stand for? Sorry- not following.

NavitimerNut · 23 October 2016, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Socal to az

What does this stand for? Sorry- not following.

"In Before The Lock": An abbreviation posted to a thread on a web-based forum when the poster knows that any rational debate has long since been abandoned, and will shortly be locked by the forum administrator.
Original poster: Welfare is bad!
Second poster: Oh yeah? Well, you're a nazi!
Original poster: Oh yeah? Well, you're an idiot!
Third poster: IBTL!
Admin: I'm locking this thread. Nothing to see here, move along.

KarlS · 23 October 2016, 05:15 PM

I would avoid if it has a battery...and the movement should have 269 parts....

unknown · 23 October 2016, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Post pics of it, they can't fake the back.

here you have pics , not 5170 but 5070

andynj · 24 October 2016, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by subtona

I object

Whoops! Quite rightly - apologies!

23 October 2016, 02:39 AM	#1
andynj "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: NJ Watch: Rolex Daytona Posts: 74	what to look for when buying used PP "complicated " I ask because I am buying a lightly used, somewhat complicated 5170. I have seen pictures of the watch and paperwork and all looks good. I am doing the transaction face to face in the seller's office. (Out of State for me but I happen to be there next week). I have no reason to be believe that their should be a problem (seller is more than happy for me to come to his office) but is there something I should look for? Last edited by andynj; 23 October 2016 at 03:05 AM.. Reason: Bad wording of thread subject

23 October 2016, 02:41 AM	#2
Flywheel "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Cleveland Posts: 628	Ibtl

23 October 2016, 02:49 AM	#4
AK797 Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,278	Post pics of it, they can't fake the back.

23 October 2016, 03:59 AM	#12
PJ S Banned Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: UK Posts: 3,990	If the back matches this, then you’re fine. Certificate Of Origin will include the movement number and calibre version, both of which are on one of the bridges, as you see in the image. If it all tallies, you’re good to go. If you want to play it ultra cautiously, assuming you’ll be doing a bank transfer, have him sign a written statement of what is being sold, for how much, and his account details. That, along with the emails/texts should be sufficient to prevent him from pulling any shenanigans.

23 October 2016, 05:15 PM	#17
KarlS Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Karl Location: Kuwait Posts: 5,228	I would avoid if it has a battery...and the movement should have 269 parts....

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