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Old 14 August 2019, 08:01 AM   #1
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RO Dual Time or Code 11.59

Well? Very different watches, but which would you go with if you had ~$20K for your next watch purchase?
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Old 14 August 2019, 08:03 AM   #2
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Dual Time is useful, JLC movement and it's an RO. 11.59 has a nice case, cool sapphire, movement is great but the dial leaves me wanting more.
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Old 14 August 2019, 08:36 AM   #3
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i would probably just buy a Hublot


there is probably one model i like more than those two

if i had to pick, dual time but for a dual time watch im not a fan of how the dial is executed. Its more like a giant power reserve indicator watch that has a smaller subdial that with the time
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Old 14 August 2019, 08:37 AM   #4
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Two very different watches. Do you have use for the dual time feature? Do you already have a Royal Oak? Do you want a gold watch? Can you get an 11:59 for only $20K?
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Old 14 August 2019, 08:39 AM   #5
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I'd go with the dual time.
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Old 14 August 2019, 10:40 AM   #6
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Dual time for sure. Cool piece.

But since you asked...with 20k I’d be looking at a 15500.
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Old 14 August 2019, 11:39 AM   #7
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I am in the minority (all 4 of us) but I like the code and never been a fan of the dual time.
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Old 14 August 2019, 11:55 AM   #8
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Old 14 August 2019, 12:15 PM   #9
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Dual time is a great RO, the 11:59 is.... how to say this? Terrible?

So RO every day and twice on sunday
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Old 14 August 2019, 12:55 PM   #10
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I donít like the asymmetry of the dual time, the power reserve being too close to the centre.
The Code has a disappointing dial, but ultimately I would chose it over the dual time.
It will certainly be a topic of discussion if you buy the Code.

In the end buy what you like, you are wearing the watch not us.

Good luck and tell us what will you choose.


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Old 14 August 2019, 01:33 PM   #11
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Both are not my top picks. I wouldn’t recommend either to anybody. To each their own but these are two ugly girls lol
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Old 14 August 2019, 02:52 PM   #12
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100% dual time. The 11:59 looks like a MVMT watch...




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Old 14 August 2019, 03:31 PM   #13
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I am in the minority (all 4 of us) but I like the code and never been a fan of the dual time.
But you are not alone. I would choose the code in that case either.
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Old 14 August 2019, 05:18 PM   #14
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I know people like to bash the Code but I think with a dial change the watch would be stunning.


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Old 14 August 2019, 08:28 PM   #15
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Old 14 August 2019, 08:52 PM   #16
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I'm in the neither camp. Dislike the Code, everything about it, and the Dual Time dial is terribly unbalanced design wise. A steel RO Chrono would be my choice.
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Old 14 August 2019, 09:07 PM   #17
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Neither. I would broaden my search and find something that I liked more and would hold some value. Look to a five digit YG Rolex Submariner or YG Yachtmaster. Both can be had complete and in good condition for sub 20k.
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Old 14 August 2019, 10:09 PM   #18
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I'm neither too, don't really like the dial design on the Dual, and that Code is too basic and too pricey. I'd go for a normal RO or ROC.
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Old 14 August 2019, 10:36 PM   #19
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Old 14 August 2019, 10:53 PM   #20
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I still can't believe how bad that code line is. I was hoping it would grow on me but the more I see it the more I hate it
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Old 14 August 2019, 11:05 PM   #21
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Would do Code 11.59
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Old 15 August 2019, 01:23 AM   #22
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I still can't believe how bad that code line is. I was hoping it would grow on me but the more I see it the more I hate it
Seems popular to hate this watch. I don't get it.

I don't understand HATING any watch. I'm either interested or disinterested.

If interested, I may LOVE, ADMIRE, LIKE, or be intrigued enough to find out more or want to see it in person.

But if disinterested, it pretty much stops there. Just not interested.
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Old 15 August 2019, 01:25 AM   #23
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Seems popular to hate this watch. I don't get it.

I don't understand HATING any watch. I'm either interested or disinterested.

If interested, I may LOVE, ADMIRE, LIKE, or be intrigued enough to find out more or want to see it in person.

But if disinterested, it pretty much stops there. Just not interested.
i dont hate it at all. I just am not in the market for a dressy watch. I prefer it to a Rolex Cellini by a huge margin

No idea why Rolex gets away with that line but AP doesnt. The AP for what it is is pretty nice.
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Old 15 August 2019, 01:57 AM   #24
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i dont hate it at all. I just am not in the market for a dressy watch. I prefer it to a Rolex Cellini by a huge margin

No idea why Rolex gets away with that line but AP doesnt. The AP for what it is is pretty nice.
It’s the dial and the overall bulk pay size. It’s a very poorly executed lineup.

Drop the dimensions and put more elegant dials in them, and I’d be a buyer.
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Old 15 August 2019, 02:08 AM   #25
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I think the Code 11.59 is underrated. Think about the biggest complaint: "the dial looks like a DW or MVMT watch" Well those watch brands are crushing it. Younger buyers love the look of those watches. The Code 11:59 shares a design language, but it's done at a supremely higher level. I think it will be appreciated in a decade or so.
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Old 15 August 2019, 02:09 AM   #26
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100% dual time. The 11:59 looks like a MVMT watch...




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Beautiful. Everyone loves a perfectly symmetrical dial. It takes a level of sophistication to appreciate asymmetry.
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Old 15 August 2019, 02:11 AM   #27
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It’s the dial and the overall bulk pay size. It’s a very poorly executed lineup.

Drop the dimensions and put more elegant dials in them, and I’d be a buyer.
yes, but not a lot of people in AP's demo (which skews younger)is wearing sub 40mm dressy watches. Part of the reason is because they are small. Older guys are generally the ones buying calatravas. Im not talking having to wear huge watches, but no way i would ever wear a 37mm watch for example. I would feel ridiculous. Nothing against people who do but that isn't for me

IMO its a dress watch for people who dont like small dress watches.

its why i singled out the Rolex Cellini because they are pretty darn thick for a dress watch but at the same time look like an older, less hip dress watch.
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Old 15 August 2019, 03:33 AM   #28
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Beautiful. Everyone loves a perfectly symmetrical dial. It takes a level of sophistication to appreciate asymmetry.


Yeah, I love it. Itís also the only 39mm besides the ultra thin, and increasingly rare to find a good example after itís been discontinued.

Iím also a bit surprised it received so much hate in this thread.

Almost all the major dual time watches have asymmetrical dial layouts. (Not a true GMT, but specifically dual time)

Most watches with any number of complications beyond just a date are asymmetric.

Maybe Iím just weird. I would rather have the 5712 than the 5711, too...


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Old 15 August 2019, 03:36 AM   #29
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Unless you are set on spending $20k, if you are considering the dual time, I'd opt for the VC Overseas Dual Time, especially if you already have an RO or ROO.
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Old 15 August 2019, 05:51 AM   #30
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Seems popular to hate this watch. I don't get it.

I don't understand HATING any watch. I'm either interested or disinterested.

If interested, I may LOVE, ADMIRE, LIKE, or be intrigued enough to find out more or want to see it in person.

But if disinterested, it pretty much stops there. Just not interested.

this watch is dog s___t is that more appropriate?
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