$22,000 5-digit GMT?

[crowncollection]

It’s worth what someone will pay. More dollars than cents comes to mind


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[SkyKing31]

Originally Posted by padi56

Would not anyone act being nice when selling anything.

Good point Peter!!

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by padi56

Would not anyone act being nice when selling anything.

There are plenty of watch sellers (even a few “trusted sellers” here on TRF) I have no desire to work with simply because they weren’t very nice. Furthermore, there are a considerable amount of people in the world that are terrible to work with. Yes, people who work in sales.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by SearChart

I think it's funny that there are people who think paying that much for that watch is a good idea, makes me wonder how they have the brain capacity to even make that amount of money in the first place. Very interesting.

[sp3000]

nearly a year ago I was in contact for a NIB Coke from AIS, They wanted too much then and now a year later the watch is another $10k more, they just slowly upped the price... Still no takers. Maybe when they triple the price someone will have to have it!

[airchitect]

And someone out there will be dumb enough to buy them all.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

There are plenty of watch sellers (even a few “trusted sellers” here on TRF) I have no desire to work with simply because they weren’t very nice. Furthermore, there are a considerable amount of people in the world that are terrible to work with. Yes, people who work in sales.

Look its very simple if any seller whether on forum or not was not nice to anyone buying a product from them, they would not be in business long.And please quote the name of any trusted seller that was not nice and the circumstances they were not nice to you over any sale.

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by SWISSAHOLICS

It’s a bargain compared to this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-GMT-1...8AAOSw8zdaz6Xg

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[MrCowboy99]

To each his own.

[904VT]

Originally Posted by AK797

One third of all wealth is inherited, another third is black market. All the legitimate earned money is probably on bogus waiting lists... perfect world metaphor for you there.

You're right. I bet the self-made, they're too smart to go on waiting lists, bc most waiting lists aren't real anymore. It's just where the AD puts those they don't want to give the one in the back to. Used to be just Daytonas in SS (now most SS to some degree) that they would bring from out back and always just happened to get in for a customer but they can't sell it to you. They tell you about all the PM watches they have, you buy one and they come back with the same watch they tell you is another they have in the back just waiting for the right purchaser. Some ADs play the carnival game with the grabber in the tank full of toys. The one they tell you where they always have winners, but you keep loosing money trying to get that stuffed animal that keeps falling from your grips

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by padi56

Look its very simple if any seller whether on forum or not was not nice to anyone buying a product from them, they would not be in business long.And please quote the name of any trusted seller that was not nice and the circumstances they were not nice to you over any sale.

If you really want to know a couple of stories shoot me a pm and I’ll gladly tell you, but I’m not going to pubilically write negative reviews about people’s business’s because they weren’t nice to me. You rip me off, you sell me something not as described and won’t take it back or make it right? Yes, I’ll write a review. But a negative review over not being very nice is not necessarily fair.

Lucky for me, I can choose who ever I want to work with.

Anyway, shoot me a PM and I’ll let you know a couple situations in confidence though.

[rushca01]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

If you really want to know a couple of stories shoot me a pm and I’ll gladly tell you, but I’m not going to pubilically write negative reviews about people’s business’s because they weren’t nice to me. You rip me off, you sell me something not as described and won’t take it back or make it right? Yes, I’ll write a review. But a negative review over not being very nice is not necessarily fair.

Lucky for me, I can choose who ever I want to work with.

Anyway, shoot me a PM and I’ll let you know a couple situations in confidence though.

I have found most of the trusted sellers to be straight and to the point without much fluff in their communication. They could be a little more friendly but I'm sure they get 100's of texts/emails per day from tire kickers etc.. I'm not defending them by any means but it took me awhile to get used to this. It comes off as rude at first...

My only real complaint is most don't update their sales posts..I can't tell you how many times I have inquired about a watch and it's sold...with the promise another is on the way.

[Nikrnic]

M serial no. 2007

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[Rockrolex]

Originally Posted by sp3000

I reckon you'd have serious buyers remorse after wearing it for a few weeks... If you put it straight in the safe you could keep the delusion alive as it's all in your imagination. I love my 5 digit, and it's a sweet watch for the $4-5k I paid new at a dealer in 2007. Hilarous someone would pay over $20k for what I wear to the beach..


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I bought Y-serial all black GMT-II in 2003 for a couple grand less than you did and I wear mine to the beach and whenever I travel.

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by rushca01

I have found most of the trusted sellers to be straight and to the point without much fluff in their communication. They could be a little more friendly but I'm sure they get 100's of texts/emails per day from tire kickers etc.. I'm not defending them by any means but it took me awhile to get used to this. It comes off as rude at first...

My only real complaint is most don't update their sales posts..I can't tell you how many times I have inquired about a watch and it's sold...with the promise another is on the way.

Yeah I really don't need anyone to roll out the red carpet for me (in this case the cyber red carpet lol). I was just responding to Padi's original statement that anyone selling something will act nice to you. Regardless of whether it's internet watch sales, buying a new car or an oil burner, some people just aren't nice. And while it is surprising, many continue to stay in business and succeed!

Again, I'm not looking to vent, and I'm definitely not looking to single people out as Padi suggest I do. My underlying point, was simply that it's great that DSW was nice to the member that posted earlier. Not every seller is nice. Like you said, sometimes these sellers can come off cold and frankly rude.

[Casey VP-26]

Originally Posted by padi56

Have to agree there are hundreds possible a thousand plus 16710 with the cal 3186 in this world.And while there are those willing to pay these internet hyped prices they will stay high.Yes they have the crown turn test to indicate it has the 3186 but the only true way is to get back off to confirm.Give me a 3185 over a 3186 the 3185 since introduction has run without any problems pity the same could not be said about the 3186 but Rolex has rectified the date problem.

Your Tuff Peter, Still can't see this light, Can you?

[ALF61]

OP what you are missing is the 3186 movement thing.

Gotta love capitalism and collectability. Will he get what he wants ? depends how the collectors value the item. Few is rare, rare is expensive when talking Rolex.

[Likestheshiny]

Originally Posted by SearChart

I think it's funny that there are people who think paying that much for that watch is a good idea, makes me wonder how they have the brain capacity to even make that amount of money in the first place.

I think it's funny that there are people who think the reasonable and appropriate amount of money to spend on a luxury watch is exactly what they're personally comfortable with.

[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by Likestheshiny

I think it's funny that there are people who think the reasonable and appropriate amount of money to spend on a luxury watch is exactly what they're personally comfortable with.

That is true.

It still doesn't make it seem right though to the majority of 'regular' folk who see these vastly inflated prices as ridiculous ( myself included)

Obviously, anything is only 'worth' what someone else is willing to pay for it.

Similar to the Art world.

Personally I wouldnt givev 2c for an abstract work by Picasso and the like, but clearly there are those who are willing to pay many tens of $millions for them.

Fair play & good luck to them!

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[dmash]

Originally Posted by Swiss Mad!

That is true.

It still doesn't make it seem right though to the majority of 'regular' folk who see these vastly inflated prices as ridiculous ( myself included)

Obviously, anything is only 'worth' what someone else is willing to pay for it.

Similar to the Art world.

Personally I wouldnt givev 2c for an abstract work by Picasso and the like, but clearly there are those who are willing to pay many tens of $millions for them.

Fair play & good luck to them!

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That's comparing apples and oranges, and if anything, exploits the absolute stupidity of the current watch market.

A painting is a personalized, one off creation from an individual.......these watches are mass produced, machine made, tangible goods composed wholly of a metal which costs less than $1 a pound But yeah, all you supporters (not you Swiss) keep talking about how it's in any way justifiable to spend these silly amounts OVER the MSRP that is already obscenely high for what it is.

[Likestheshiny]

This is a luxury watch forum. The folks here spend thousands on dollars on jewelry with the same functionality as a $50 Casio. Deriding anyone else for paying a lot of money for a watch is the epitome of pots and kettles. By definition, this has to be a judgement-free zone -- either we're all idiots, or none of us is.

(Admittedly, it's probably that first thing, but it still means we can't point fingers at each other.)

[sunnyd]

But you could have the new SS BLRO for that price

[Flier]

No thanks

[Ravager135]

That's probably commensurate with what people are willing to pay for this model and this movement. It's essentially the last, most up-to-date, 5 digit GMT-Master II. Me personally, I would never pay that much for such meager upgrades over the hundreds of thousands of 5 digit GMT-Master IIs out there.

Others will say that this watch is an investment; that it is rare.

[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by Likestheshiny

This is a luxury watch forum. The folks here spend thousands on dollars on jewelry with the same functionality as a $50 Casio. Deriding anyone else for paying a lot of money for a watch is the epitome of pots and kettles. By definition, this has to be a judgement-free zone -- either we're all idiots, or none of us is.

(Admittedly, it's probably that first thing, but it still means we can't point fingers at each other.)

I don't think anyone is pointing fingers, I just think the majority are genuinely shocked at the crazy premiums these 10+ year old watches are now commanding when they can remember seeing them sat in AD's windows at retail.

However I do accept your point that we should not be judgemental in our responses.

I apologize in advance if any of my replies have come across like that - I certainly did not set out to offend

Regards.



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[Likestheshiny]

I don't think anyone is pointing fingers

Oh, most aren't. This...

makes me wonder how they have the brain capacity to even make that amount of money in the first place.

... is the comment I originally responded to, which just seemed like an especially hypocritical example of stoplikingwhatIdon'tlike.

I wouldn't pay that much for the watch either. But, if you have money to spare and wish there were a modern GMTc Coke to buy, then that watch is the closest you're going to get -- it's the most recent available model, with the most modern movement, and is in great shape (and from a respected seller). And it's quite rare, which is appealing to many. It's only overpriced if you can find the same thing elsewhere for less.

[Jacobson]

Originally Posted by jctrolex

What year is an M serial?

Bought my M series GMT Pepsi in 2008 from AD.
If I remember correctly it cost me £2600.

[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by dmash

That's comparing apples and oranges, and if anything, exploits the absolute stupidity of the current watch market.

A painting is a personalized, one off creation from an individual.......these watches are mass produced, machine made, tangible goods composed wholly of a metal which costs less than $1 a pound But yeah, all you supporters (not you Swiss) keep talking about how it's in any way justifiable to spend these silly amounts OVER the MSRP that is already obscenely high for what it is.

5 million???

Where's the advert for that GMT again..

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[05carbondrz]

Originally Posted by Swiss Mad!

That is true.

It still doesn't make it seem right though to the majority of 'regular' folk who see these vastly inflated prices as ridiculous ( myself included)

Obviously, anything is only 'worth' what someone else is willing to pay for it.

Similar to the Art world.

Personally I wouldnt givev 2c for an abstract work by Picasso and the like, but clearly there are those who are willing to pay many tens of $millions for them.

Fair play & good luck to them!

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Fair play? In this market that is a Pipe Dream My Friend.

[WISAZ]

Yeah, DavidSW will have no problem selling that. He knows exactly what he is doing.