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ddaly12 · 28 July 2020, 10:33 AM

I lent my 1999 omega Speedmaster reduced to my brother... he decides it’s a good idea to take it for a swim in the Atlantic... comes back to me like this:

Ouch.

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ddaly12 · 28 July 2020, 10:36 AM

So, of course, I need to take the case back off and check out the damage...

Not looking good. The dial appears to have started dissolving in the salt water, the thick oozy paint coating the movement. The balance doesn’t turn.

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ddaly12 · 28 July 2020, 10:39 AM

I decide to go deeper, remove the balance and crown. Maybe it’s not so bad underneath that...

Yikes. Not only is the gunk widespread, but rust appears to be forming throughout. Did I mention it’s been about 2 weeks since the faithful plunge???

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ddaly12 · 28 July 2020, 10:43 AM

Next I think (this “thinking” is really starting to cause a problem), let’s remove the automatic works. I’ll keep it all together, only remove a few screws... I’ll be careful.

With the automatic works removed, we can see a plate the separate the chrono works, which sit in the dial side. Amazingly, at this point there is still sea water between the dial and crystal (wtf??). That’s gotta come out!

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Pronto0322 · 28 July 2020, 10:45 AM

I’m 41 years old and you just made me cry

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ddaly12 · 28 July 2020, 10:49 AM

Next, bezel off and crystal off. Dial and chrono works come out. I think I’ve found the breach... there appeared to be some deterioration around the bezel gasket. I would have never guessed that to be the non-air-tight point of weakness. But, given all the water inside the dial - crystal cavity, I think that’s it. Sneaky.

At this point, as you can see, it’s easy to ascertain that the movement is toast, DOA, not-coming-back, RIP, swimmin’ with the fishes... you get it. I decide to forge on!

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chemistrynerd · 28 July 2020, 10:54 AM

Ouch. Sorry for your loss. Never showering with my Speedy again!!

ddaly12 · 28 July 2020, 10:55 AM

I remove the hands (all 6!), and separate the dial from the chrono works. This is trickier than you might expect.

Then I take a go at the chrono. At this point I’m in way over my head (actually, I’ve been way over my head for some time now), but the thing is shot, so I see how far I can take it.

Once I got into the chrono mechanism, I’m basically cooked. Very finicky, particularly the reset button. I see how it all connects, but getting it back together is beyond me. It’s 2am now, I’m fuming. Time to put it down for good. RIP Speedy Reduced.

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toolr · 28 July 2020, 10:56 AM

Yikes!!! Send... the watch in for a "expensive" repair, and toss your brother back in the Atlantic...

ddaly12 · 28 July 2020, 11:00 AM

Several options at this point, as I see it. The case, crown, and original bracelet are still in very good shape. I could see if I can find a watchmaker that would refit a brand new movement, new dial, hands, crystal. Like rebuilding a car from the frame. Or, sell off the usable pieces, and try to recoup some value. Either way, lesson learned.

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ddaly12 · 28 July 2020, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pronto0322

I’m 41 years old and you just made me cry

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Sorry brother!!! You and me both!!!

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ddaly12 · 28 July 2020, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toolr

Yikes!!! Send... the watch in for a "expensive" repair, and toss your brother back in the Atlantic...

I’ve definitely considered the latter!!!

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brandrea · 28 July 2020, 11:23 AM

I’m curious to know what your brother has to say ...

ddaly12 · 28 July 2020, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandrea

I’m curious to know what your brother has to say ...

Direct quote “I thought you said these were waterproof?”

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macrowatch · 28 July 2020, 12:13 PM

Epic post. Thank you!

WAK4 · 28 July 2020, 12:25 PM

wow,that sucks! But made for some interesting posts at least...

Undefeatable · 28 July 2020, 12:26 PM

This is horrible and also really interesting. Thank you for taking the time to take the pics and share!

Deepsea Florida · 28 July 2020, 01:38 PM

Sell to brother

77T · 28 July 2020, 02:09 PM

Busy hands are happy hands...
Good time to keep them busy and go all the way.

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denmanproject · 28 July 2020, 02:11 PM

This is the look I would give my brother if he did this...

1William · 28 July 2020, 09:48 PM

Oh well. I would look at it as a new project. Find someone who can do a repair/restoration and go for it. Great watch and I would not just let it go. I might even consider sending it back to Omega. It will be costly but worth it in the end. What a great story when the watch is back and right. No more loaning watches out though.

JParm · 28 July 2020, 10:07 PM

This was painful to scroll through. I hope none of my watches ever go through that kind of hurt...

Let us know what you decide to do and what the finished product looks like!

samson66 · 28 July 2020, 10:22 PM

Oh my God, that's awful. Aren't the Speedy's (allegedly) 50m waterproof??? I never swam with mine out of fear this would happen.

ddaly12 · 28 July 2020, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WAK4

wow,that sucks! But made for some interesting posts at least...

Exactly... great content opportunity!!!

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ddaly12 · 28 July 2020, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by denmanproject

This is the look I would give my brother if he did this...

LOL!!!! Too funny. I was in total shock.

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ddaly12 · 28 July 2020, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samson66

Oh my God, that's awful. Aren't the Speedy's (allegedly) 50m waterproof??? I never swam with mine out of fear this would happen.

Yes! The problem here, I think, was that the watch was something like a 1998-9 vintage and probably never had a service. Those gaskets don’t last forever.

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3 Putt · 28 July 2020, 10:56 PM

It hurts to look at...but I think you created a great advertisement for the Omega Service Centers to have a watch pressure checked for water resistance frequently.

ddaly12 · 28 July 2020, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1William

Oh well. I would look at it as a new project. Find someone who can do a repair/restoration and go for it. Great watch and I would not just let it go. I might even consider sending it back to Omega. It will be costly but worth it in the end. What a great story when the watch is back and right. No more loaning watches out though.

I think this is where I’ve ended up... it’s a new project and will be something we can all laugh about someday. This watch (case at least) will carry A LOT of history!!!

And DEFINITELY no more watch loans to my bro.

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samson66 · 28 July 2020, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddaly12

I think this is where I’ve ended up... it’s a new project and will be something we can all laugh about someday. This watch (case at least) will carry A LOT of history!!!

And DEFINITELY no more watch loans to my bro.

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Just remember to send the bill to your brother!

Jeffwb65 · 28 July 2020, 11:02 PM

Tell your brother he owes You about $3000, and never lend him a watch again. https://www.chrono24.com/omega/ref-351050.htm#gref

28 July 2020, 10:33 AM	#1
ddaly12 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Cranford Posts: 704	Houston, we have a problem... I lent my 1999 omega Speedmaster reduced to my brother... he decides it’s a good idea to take it for a swim in the Atlantic... comes back to me like this: Ouch. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 July 2020, 02:09 PM	#19
77T 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 40,735	Busy hands are happy hands... Good time to keep them busy and go all the way. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

28 July 2020, 10:07 PM	#22
JParm 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: NorCal Watch: Yes! Posts: 6,556	This was painful to scroll through. I hope none of my watches ever go through that kind of hurt... Let us know what you decide to do and what the finished product looks like! __________________

28 July 2020, 10:56 PM	#27
3 Putt "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Jeff Location: Florida/China Watch: All of them Posts: 241	It hurts to look at...but I think you created a great advertisement for the Omega Service Centers to have a watch pressure checked for water resistance frequently. __________________ “If you drink, don’t drive. Don’t even putt.” ― Dean Martin

28 July 2020, 10:36 AM	#2
ddaly12 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Cranford Posts: 704	So, of course, I need to take the case back off and check out the damage... Not looking good. The dial appears to have started dissolving in the salt water, the thick oozy paint coating the movement. The balance doesn’t turn. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 July 2020, 10:39 AM	#3
ddaly12 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Cranford Posts: 704	I decide to go deeper, remove the balance and crown. Maybe it’s not so bad underneath that... Yikes. Not only is the gunk widespread, but rust appears to be forming throughout. Did I mention it’s been about 2 weeks since the faithful plunge??? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 July 2020, 10:43 AM	#4
ddaly12 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Cranford Posts: 704	Next I think (this “thinking” is really starting to cause a problem), let’s remove the automatic works. I’ll keep it all together, only remove a few screws... I’ll be careful. With the automatic works removed, we can see a plate the separate the chrono works, which sit in the dial side. Amazingly, at this point there is still sea water between the dial and crystal (wtf??). That’s gotta come out! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 July 2020, 10:45 AM	#5
Pronto0322 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: USA Posts: 216	I’m 41 years old and you just made me cry Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 July 2020, 10:49 AM	#6
ddaly12 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Cranford Posts: 704	Next, bezel off and crystal off. Dial and chrono works come out. I think I’ve found the breach... there appeared to be some deterioration around the bezel gasket. I would have never guessed that to be the non-air-tight point of weakness. But, given all the water inside the dial - crystal cavity, I think that’s it. Sneaky. At this point, as you can see, it’s easy to ascertain that the movement is toast, DOA, not-coming-back, RIP, swimmin’ with the fishes... you get it. I decide to forge on! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 July 2020, 10:54 AM	#7
chemistrynerd "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: London, Ontario Watch: Datejust 41 Posts: 18	Ouch. Sorry for your loss. Never showering with my Speedy again!!

28 July 2020, 10:55 AM	#8
ddaly12 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Cranford Posts: 704	I remove the hands (all 6!), and separate the dial from the chrono works. This is trickier than you might expect. Then I take a go at the chrono. At this point I’m in way over my head (actually, I’ve been way over my head for some time now), but the thing is shot, so I see how far I can take it. Once I got into the chrono mechanism, I’m basically cooked. Very finicky, particularly the reset button. I see how it all connects, but getting it back together is beyond me. It’s 2am now, I’m fuming. Time to put it down for good. RIP Speedy Reduced. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 July 2020, 10:56 AM	#9
toolr 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Northwest Posts: 1,339	Yikes!!! Send... the watch in for a "expensive" repair, and toss your brother back in the Atlantic...

28 July 2020, 11:00 AM	#10
ddaly12 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Cranford Posts: 704	Several options at this point, as I see it. The case, crown, and original bracelet are still in very good shape. I could see if I can find a watchmaker that would refit a brand new movement, new dial, hands, crystal. Like rebuilding a car from the frame. Or, sell off the usable pieces, and try to recoup some value. Either way, lesson learned. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 July 2020, 11:23 AM	#13
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 73,712	I’m curious to know what your brother has to say ...

28 July 2020, 12:13 PM	#15
macrowatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: HK Posts: 4,365	Epic post. Thank you!

28 July 2020, 12:25 PM	#16
WAK4 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Bill Location: NJ Watch: Always changing Posts: 4,170	wow,that sucks! But made for some interesting posts at least...

28 July 2020, 12:26 PM	#17
Undefeatable "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Real Name: Kevin Location: Irvine, CA Watch: 124060 Posts: 492	This is horrible and also really interesting. Thank you for taking the time to take the pics and share!

28 July 2020, 01:38 PM	#18
Deepsea Florida "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 501	Sell to brother

28 July 2020, 02:11 PM	#20
denmanproject "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Wayne Location: Canada Posts: 4,356	This is the look I would give my brother if he did this...

28 July 2020, 09:48 PM	#21
1William 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 44,758	Oh well. I would look at it as a new project. Find someone who can do a repair/restoration and go for it. Great watch and I would not just let it go. I might even consider sending it back to Omega. It will be costly but worth it in the end. What a great story when the watch is back and right. No more loaning watches out though.

28 July 2020, 10:22 PM	#23
samson66 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Mike Location: Eastern Shore, MD Watch: my money leaving! Posts: 12,909	Oh my God, that's awful. Aren't the Speedy's (allegedly) 50m waterproof??? I never swam with mine out of fear this would happen.

28 July 2020, 11:02 PM	#30
Jeffwb65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Tennessee, USA Watch: Seiko SKX009 Posts: 301	Tell your brother he owes You about $3000, and never lend him a watch again. https://www.chrono24.com/omega/ref-351050.htm#gref

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