Help with dial originality

[Xppx3]

Hey, the seller mentions this may be a reconditioned dial but I have no idea. Can anyone help? It's a 6085 reference

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/TzcAAO...1S/s-l1600.jpg

[tamiya]

Looks more like aftermarket replacement... what's it made of, stamped sheetmetal? The batons brandname & crown look pressed relief.

What's the base watch, 1960s or 1950s?

[Xppx3]

Originally Posted by tamiya

Looks more like aftermarket replacement... what's it made of, stamped sheetmetal? The batons brandname & crown look pressed relief.

What's the base watch, 1960s or 1950s?

1951 apparently. Serial no 738***

If I understand you, you thing the batons, Rolex and crown are pressed into the face?

To me they look raised

[tamiya]

Yeah, sheetmetal pressed/stamped from the back to raise the bumps, then they look painted on top.

Weird dial.

I am familiar with 6085 bubbleback and afaik originally they have an enamelled dial with the furniture crafted separately and attached on top. The enamel can blister, craze or sheds off after so many decades of being nuked by the radioactive elements.

There were a heap of refinished & aftermarket dials cranked out in the 1980/90s but all are similar flat discs with bits stuck on, can't recall seeing any pressed sheetmetal like yours before.

[tamiya]

Also thought proper R hands would have strip of radioactive lume :)

[Xppx3]

Ah I understand, thank you for your help :)

[Richard Carver]

The raised elements pretty common for that ref. https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...g&action=close

[tamiya]

Raised elements common yes, but I've never seen them like that style.

Flat enamel dial with pie slice triangles, they're usually bigger or sometimes Romans at 3/6/9 - haven't come across any that are all 11 the same baton. And they'd be applied onto dial.

If they weren't gloss enamelled they had linen or honeycomb texture.

Pictured dial reminds me of stamped metal "copper tooling" or tinplate car numberplates - stamp them with a die, paint the raised areas.

The minute markings don't quite lineup with the raised batons too.

Even if you were totally amateur about dial repainting and you primered totally over a dial with raised element left in place, it wouldn't look like that :)

[Old Expat Beast]

Refinished dial, but not too bad for its age, I'd say.

[R.W.T.]

It's one of many typical embossed marker dials from the period. It's been refinished long ago.

[tamiya]

ah "embossed" that was the term I couldn't find earlier

did genuine dials ever come embossed like that from the factory? (and thus that's an original metal dial just repainted)

or is that dial totally aftermarket - metal & paint?