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Old 20 September 2016, 04:37 AM   #1
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Does this make sense?

In my profession, I could be working different shift patterns and this is not good for the power reserve on my watch. I don't want to buy a watch winder.

I have a 39mm, Explorer, cal 3132, 44 or 48 hours power reserve.

From recollection a Rolex I think needs 650 bi directional turns daily to maintain its full wound power reserve. This is after an initial manual wind of around 40 turns.

So if I swing my arm forward then backward that would equate to one bidirectional turn. If I do this 650 times it would take just under 11 minutes.

In theory this could mean my watch would retain its full power reserve by an 11 minute brisk walk per day. Even if the watch was only worn for that 11 minutes in the day.

Does this sound correct? Or in reality it does not work like this.
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Old 20 September 2016, 04:40 AM   #2
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Suggest doing the arm swinging in private.
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Old 20 September 2016, 04:41 AM   #3
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That's way more thought than I put into it. I've found over the years, if I give my watches a full manual wind before wearing, I can wear it-and it stays running-until I want to switch to another watch...which is usually about a week or two.

That's about all you can ask, I think.
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Old 20 September 2016, 04:43 AM   #4
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That's a lot of thought put into it, wear the watch when you want and don't when you don't want to, after all that's what it was made for.
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Old 20 September 2016, 04:43 AM   #5
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Suggest doing the arm swinging in private.
Ha Ha. Of course in private.
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Old 20 September 2016, 04:54 AM   #6
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That's a lot of thought put into it, wear the watch when you want and don't when you don't want to, after all that's what it was made for.
I agree with you.

However, I fully wound the watch and had it on alternate days over a five day period. So wearing it for one day and the next day having it rest on my table.

The next day Saturday I would wear it from 11am till 11pm, I had been reasonably active that day. Saturday 11pm watch taken off and I noticed at 6am Monday morning the Explorer was keeping time by 7am Monday it had stopped. That would only equate to 32 hours power reserve.

I rang my RSC and they thought it should of kept the full reserve. The watch has 13 months of warranty left. They asked me to take it in to be looked at.
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Old 20 September 2016, 04:59 AM   #7
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It would be much easier to manually wind it on the "off" days. I wouldn't count how many times I swing my arm. If it stops, wind it and set the time. Especially easy with no date complication.
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Old 20 September 2016, 05:16 AM   #8
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It would be much easier to manually wind it on the "off" days. I wouldn't count how many times I swing my arm. If it stops, wind it and set the time. Especially easy with no date complication.
I could be wrong. Unwinding and winding a screw down crown three times a week could wear it out of damage it?
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Old 20 September 2016, 05:20 AM   #9
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I could be wrong. Unwinding and winding a screw down crown three times a week could wear it out of damage it?
If it were me, that wouldn't even cross my mind.
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Old 20 September 2016, 05:32 AM   #10
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Should I take it to the RSC? Does the power reserve sound off?
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Old 20 September 2016, 05:39 AM   #11
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Should I take it to the RSC? Does the power reserve sound off?
I think it's hard to judge how much the watch was wound going by how active you were. It takes a bit for the automatic winding to wind the watch. If the watch sat for an entire day, 1/2 day of wear would not fully wind it.

If you want to check the reserve, fully wind it (don't count the winds, wind it until you hear clicking which is the overwinding prevention) and see how long it lasts off the wrist. That's the only way to know for sure.
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Old 20 September 2016, 05:49 AM   #12
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[QUOTE=tifosi;7015566]I think it's hard to judge how much the watch was wound going by how active you were. It takes a bit for the automatic winding to wind the watch. If the watch sat for an entire day, 1/2 day of wear would not fully wind it.

If you want to check the reserve, fully wind it (don't count the winds, wind it until you hear clicking which is the overwinding prevention) and see how long it lasts off the wrist. That's the only way to know for sure.[/QUOT

Thanks. I did this this morning. Lets see what happens.
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Old 20 September 2016, 05:50 AM   #13
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Old 20 September 2016, 05:56 AM   #14
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I think it's hard to judge how much the watch was wound going by how active you were. It takes a bit for the automatic winding to wind the watch. If the watch sat for an entire day, 1/2 day of wear would not fully wind it.

If you want to check the reserve, fully wind it (don't count the winds, wind it until you hear clicking which is the overwinding prevention) and see how long it lasts off the wrist. That's the only way to know for sure.
How long do you wind before hearing the clicking from the clutch slipping? I wound mine over 80 times and it sounded like it did from when it was first wound.
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Old 20 September 2016, 05:59 AM   #15
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How long do you wind before hearing the clicking from the clutch slipping? I wound mine over 80 times and it sounded like it did from when it was first wound.
I've never counted. You really need to listen closely. Up to your ear. Not just with your hands in front of you. You won't hear it.
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I've never counted. You really need to listen closely. Up to your ear. Not just with your hands in front of you. You won't hear it.
Thanks. That is what I was doing wrong. I had no idea you had to listen that carefully.
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Old 20 September 2016, 06:05 AM   #17
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Thanks. That is what I was doing wrong. I had no idea you had to listen that carefully.
At least I have to listen that closely!
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Old 20 September 2016, 09:23 AM   #18
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I could be wrong. Unwinding and winding a screw down crown three times a week could wear it out of damage it?
Yes, you are wrong.

There are many Rolex that are manual wind with screw down crowns, and so they are wound every day of the year without issue.
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Forget the arm swing buy a winder or do it yourself everyday
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Old 20 September 2016, 01:16 PM   #21
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Now, I've seen/read it all.
Yup.

People make way too much out of watch ownership. It's really not that complicated.

Hey OP, just wind your watch when it stops.
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Did you actually time yourself swinging your arm 650 times?
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Old 20 September 2016, 09:46 PM   #24
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People make way too much out of watch ownership. It's really not that complicated.
This is fundamentally true.

I'd guess >90% of all mechanical watch purchasers buy them for the name on the dial, or their looks, and haven't got a clue how they work. Same for our ancestors who only ever had mechanical watches. They just wore & wound them, and used them daily for every activity, as simple as that.

A little knowledge as a watch fan can be a dangerous thing. In fairness though, when you consider the micro-mechanics at play, plus the high luxury prices involved, some initial hesitancy may be expected in wishing to protect your new asset/play-thing.

I'm guilty of it also, to a small extent. It's a wonder I can wear my watch at all, without panicking about magnetism from this computer I'm using; clasp scratches; shattering my ceramic bezel on a stapler; over-winding it; or catastrophically changing the date at the wrong moment.

All part of the fun of learning (obsessing!) about watches I suppose!
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With all due respect you could have fully wound your watch in the time it took to write your post.
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Just don know it takes 11 minutes only to fully wind the rolex, that's cool.
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Old 20 September 2016, 11:35 PM   #27
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Yes, you are wrong.

There are many Rolex that are manual wind with screw down crowns, and so they are wound every day of the year without issue.
I of course know about vintage manual wind dress watches. I didn't know there are sports manual wind watches that have a screw down crown.that needs to be unscrewed and screwed back in on every wind.
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Old 21 September 2016, 11:39 PM   #28
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All is well. I have been to Rolex RSC they thought watch is 100% and told me to wear it for a week and report any issues if there are any. Watchmaker manually wound my watch and reported the feel of the watch was good. For good measure he checked my dial was in good condition under the loupe, I am a bit OCD and asked him for some strange reason. All is 100% Before I went to the RSC iI manually wound watch and it maintained power reserve for 48 hours sitting on my desk.The watch did not even stop after 48hrs, I have been wearing it today with no manual wind and it was fine
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I did the same test again. Put the watch down at night and waited for 35 hours, a day and a night basically. All is well now and the watch carried on ticking away like a super trouper. It was all down to my wearing habits. I think after two months I am still adjusting to owning a Rolex.
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Old 26 September 2016, 10:07 PM   #30
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