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Old 27 September 2021, 06:35 PM   #1
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Daytona 4130 116520 Trouble

My 2014 116520 runs fine for 72 hours whether stationary, on a watch winder or on the wrist and then stops.

I handwind it 60 full revolutions to start off with but regardless of the amount of movement it gets, it still only lasts for an albeit impressive 72 hours.

I have three other older Rolex that I alternate between my wrist and a winder and I never need to wind any of them.

In short, has the "automatic" mechanism gone in the 116520? The mainspring and the power reserve seem OK but I just can't get the watch to go longer than 72 hours.

Obviously, I'm aware that it might need a full service as it is 7 years old but is there a short answer as to why the movement isn't being charged up, even slightly, by the rotor?

Any help would be gratefully received. Thanks.
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Old 28 September 2021, 02:18 PM   #2
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Yeah, it sounds like the automatic winding is not working. I had that problem with a JLC chrono a few years ago. Just get it serviced and you’ll be good.
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Old 28 September 2021, 06:55 PM   #3
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Thanks. Did yours do the same?
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Old 28 September 2021, 07:10 PM   #4
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Sounds like your reversing gears and/or the driving wheel are toast.
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Old 28 September 2021, 10:33 PM   #5
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Sounds like your reversing gears and/or the driving wheel are toast.
Am I better off going down the service route or taking it in and simply getting those parts fixed?
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Am I better off going down the service route or taking it in and simply getting those parts fixed?
If this is the case then there will be some grinding dust from those gears in the movement, service is probably needed.
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Am I better off going down the service route or taking it in and simply getting those parts fixed?
An RSC would require a full movement service, which would probably be best. Your watch is seven years old, so perhaps a full service is in order anyway. (Unless, of course, it's been serviced already during that time.)

However, perhaps you could find an independent/local watchmaker who could just isolate and fix the specific problem in the movement without a full service.
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An RSC would require a full movement service, which would probably be best. Your watch is seven years old, so perhaps a full service is in order anyway. (Unless, of course, it's been serviced already during that time.)

However, perhaps you could find an independent/local watchmaker who could just isolate and fix the specific problem in the movement without a full service.
Yes. That's my dilemma.

I think it's time for a service, although it has to be said I haven't used it much, so I would rather not go to the cost of a full RSC service for how much the watch is actually worn and will be used.

I have an independent watchmaker who should be able to fix it, if I describe what's happening, so I'll get a quote a report back. That way if it happens to others, hopefully this thread will help.

Many thanks all.
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Old 29 September 2021, 06:09 PM   #9
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Take it to your nearest service centre and as for a quote to repair.

Then you can decide?

I don’t have a crystal ball.

But Bas has given you his opinion.
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Yes. That's my dilemma.

I think it's time for a service, although it has to be said I haven't used it much, so I would rather not go to the cost of a full RSC service for how much the watch is actually worn and will be used.

I have an independent watchmaker who should be able to fix it, if I describe what's happening, so I'll get a quote a report back. That way if it happens to others, hopefully this thread will help.

Many thanks all.
It's a Daytona. It has a lot of value that is increasing virtually every day. It's definitely worth having it serviced at an RSC, IMHO.
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If this is the case then there will be some grinding dust from those gears in the movement, service is probably needed.
Thanks Bas.

Forgive my ignorance but are repairs included under a RSC Service?

Presumably, they service the watch and charge you extra for any replacement parts? Roughly how much might the two offending parts potentially cost?

Do they then charge you over and above for the repair?

Sorry!
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Thanks Bas.

Forgive my ignorance but are repairs included under a RSC Service?

Presumably, they service the watch and charge you extra for any replacement parts? Roughly how much might the two offending parts potentially cost?

Do they then charge you over and above for the repair?

Sorry!
Things like gaskets, barrel/mainspring, gears, reversers, etc is all included in the service cost if they're in need of replacing.

Only more expensive parts like a rotor, bridges, balance wheel are charged extra if they need replacing. And exterior parts like crowns, pushers, crystal, etc.
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