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14 October 2021, 11:13 AM | #31 |
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14 October 2021, 11:43 AM | #34 |
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He wanted an unworn watch that wasn’t polished. All new watches can have small handling marks it’s normal happens all the time. I sent him multiple pics prior to the sale from every angle. He liked the pictures and went ahead with the purchase. I’ve dealt with buyers remorse cases for nearly 20 years, this was a clear case of this just buyers remorse.
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14 October 2021, 12:46 PM | #38 | |
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AJlikeswatches, return the Op’s money.
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14 October 2021, 04:36 PM | #40 | |
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You said the watch was new. Per your own description of what you consider "New and unused" it clearly isn't. And now another buyer is surprised to be receiving the same "New" watch. Were you hoping to skim another $1K off of him when he returned it ? And you went back and edited the details of "the people you share a floor with". Sketchy. I hope this ends miserably for you.
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14 October 2021, 05:10 PM | #41 | |
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Please answer this questions - ( it'll be a great rehearsal for court ): 1. "We sold you the watch as new" Are you denying that you resold Funforall88 the watch AFTER I showed you it had obvious wear marks ? 2. Do you deny violating C24 rules by selling a watch with obvious wear marks as NEW ? (according to C24 NEW = BRAND NEW WITHOUT ANY SIGNS OF WEAR) And please don't insult our intelligence about you "just" renting an office from Manhattan Buyers. AJA Diamonds & Watches is owned by Arthur J. Abrams - he is actually the "AJ who likes watches" (though I bet he likes easy money much more...). Arthur J. Abrams is also the owner of Manhattan Buyers. https://www.linkedin.com/in/arthur-j-abrams-6aa16354/ |
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14 October 2021, 05:59 PM | #42 |
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Some more digging in your "History" and "Reputation".
You must read the last review!!! "Sad to see he has relisted the watch for sale with same defects" Deja vu... |
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Sounds like a shady seller and swindler at best.
OP I hope he does the right thing and gets you your money back. Having said that to go through court for $1K and all that fuss I would rather spend that time writing reviews and reporting him to the BBB. That will do far more damage then the $1K he owes you and is rightfully yours. |
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But why not do both?! Hey it's a long flight from where I live to NYC...and I don't sleep well on airplanes - I can write many reviews on the way :) Thanks for the tip about BBB - I'll do that. |
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Will try to keep this thread alive for some time to ensure it gets maximum exposure. Sorry this happened OP.
Get another one, and enjoy! the 1k hurts, but even if it costs you 13k in long run to get the watch you want, it will be worth it. The Explorer is as good as it gets. |
14 October 2021, 10:05 PM | #47 |
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Thanks for your support Brny11!
I'm also on a waiting list for the new 36mm with my local AD. But the 39mm is the one I really always wanted... Come court day - I'll wear one on each hand :) Dennis Shammof (Also goes by Dennis Shaullof) will have great time explaining the "Buyers Remorse" theory... |
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Sold watch as new. Watch was not new. Explicitly said no marks as that was important to the buyer. Had marks. I hope you never sell a watch again here. Reputation is everything and I suspect you lost yours for 1000$. Reputation is why David can sell that same watch all day for 12-13k. OP - make sure to post on WUS as well. |
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What a nightmare. Apparently AJ doesn't like customers.
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14 October 2021, 11:25 PM | #51 |
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To whom it may concern, we sent a New Watch to this buyer , I sent him multiple pictures of the watch.
Reasons we took a restocking fee* 1. Shipping and Insurance 2. Checking with watch makers and authenticator that parts, movement, crown, crystal, links were not switched out to aftermarket. We went above and beyond for this customer, most Companies do not except returns period. We didn’t set out to take a restocking fee when we sold him this watch. We wanted to sell the watch, you don’t get rich from restocking fee’s. They’re plenty of people that buy watches and switch movements etc and then try to return the watch. We paid to fully inspect the watch and paid for shipping labels back and forth. The watch is in mint/new condition with no signs of wear. If you feel uncomfortable buying from Grey Market dealers do not, do yourself and Us a favor. We have plenty of clients that are thrilled with our watches and have nothing but good things to say about us. PS we paid him back as soon as the watch was checked over minus a restocking fee of less than 10%. Say thank you Sir. We could’ve not refunded you period. We always stand by our product and our business is be fully transparent with our clients. No Fakes no replicas, no funny business, not now not ever. Items are sold as stated. Pictures are provided, you can even schedule a viewing to see the watch in person at location. |
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I like your grit! I'm glad you are going to see this through. It's obvious the seller doesn't care about this at all or else they would have done some damage control, paid you, apologized, and ran away with their tail between their legs. Keep us updated. |
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And if you didn't factor the shipping cost into the selling price of the watch, which of course you did, then you'd be an idiot. 2) So authenticate a watch you swear was brand new and direct from another trader ? So if we are to believe this is something you actually do, (I don't), then your "authenticator" would have had to open up the watch to "authenticate" the movement. So even less a "new" watch- now one with possibly broken factory seals/waterproofing for the next buyer. Do keep posting, please.
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cant wait to see this case in the Peoples Court.. Put him on TV so people can see what he looks like!
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OP I'm glad and thankful you posted your experience with this seller.
I was just looking at one of the seller's listing and was about send a email for some questions. You saved me the trouble... Sorry about your situation. Wishing you best of luck in court. I know the court will be in your favor, for sure. |
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"If you feel uncomfortable buying from Grey Market" - I feel VERY comfortable. Just NOT from AJA Diamonds & Watches or Manhattan Buyers. Regarding you "paying for shipping labels back and forth" I'm presenting the audience a receipt for the shipment back - paid ENTRIRELY BY ME. |
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This dude’s market must be elsewhere; he’ll never sell another watch here. All for $1k. Stoopid!
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Wow - you purposely picked the shovel back up, traded it for a bigger shovel, and continue to dig furiously.
Any of us in business knows what it's like with returns...but...many of us also know that one single ugly mis-step can destroy years of positivity. Almost universally it's cheaper (MUCH) in the long run to make the customer happy than to pocket a few hundred dollars. Sometimes they are right, sometimes they are wrong - but it really doesn't matter. Your market may be big enough to continue without customers and WIS's from the various forums (there are plenty who do), but this type of behavior/response if continued does not bode well for your business long term. Quote:
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