Offered a New Movement

[Afficionado]

I have the Original APROO model aka the Beast and is being sent in for service. I was offered a new movement for a few hundred dollars. Should I simply ask them to service the movement that came originally with the watch or should I take the boutique on the offer to have an updated movement with better power reserve installed? The difference between doing a complete service with the original movement versus doing a complete service and installing a new movement is $400 plus water resistance service. What does the forum think. BTW, I’ve had this watch for over 15 years. While I have many watches in my collection, this one is truly special. Does installing a new movement take away from what makes my edition so special? I’m 50-50 on this. I still have time to make the call.

[Nav01L]

I would not replace the movement - even if it’s done by AP it’s no longer genuine to the watch after that.

[2001jesper]

Keep it original to the extend possible

[curare78]

I agree

[BogdanS]

Originally Posted by Nav01L

I would not replace the movement - even if it’s done by AP it’s no longer genuine to the watch after that.

This


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[TunaTuna]

You will own a Franken Oak

[214270Explorer]

Seems that everyone is in agreement. (me too.)

[rolex01]

Don't take up the offer, your model will never be the same specification as per the reference once its done.

[subtona]

While it is a unique watch in APs line up, not sure that a replaced movement from the factory would be much of a negative for me.

the Solid case back won’t give away anything.

slight improvements in PR always welcome.

Sounds like it’s Been a daily wear for you?


I’m thinking I would approve a new factory fresh OFFICIAL AP movement in the watch and continue to enjoy it as a daily.

[Token74]

I’d get the new movement.


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[robbonds]

its an upgrade - do it...and its AP original so your watch is A ok!

[CoveWatch]

I’d probably lean new movement to have the latest upgrades

[Xerxes77]

Take the new movement

[BogdanS]

7 against
5 pro

Interesting.

Would’ve thought it a clear 100% against.


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[Benzsiam]

If AP suggested for new movement, why would it be Franken watch?

As long as you keep the document paper from AP, it should be good for that watch in the long run.

I would go for the new movement.

[supernova]

Definitely get new movement and keep the receipt of work done from AP. Not a Frankenstein watch, still a pure AP.


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[Afficionado]

Thank you all for your feedback. They informed me that the new movement would include all of the technological updates that we were not possible when the 25721st model was unveiled back in 1993. The new movement will come with all the necessary paperwork and two year warranty from AP.

[Afficionado]

The results are now tied at 7. Similar to my original ambivalence as to how to proceed. Take a purist perspective and stick to all original parts or go along with AP’s recommendation and heavy subsidy and obtain a new and more advanced movement at a fraction of the price. Not sure why they are even going down this route since a new movement should cost $$$. Unless they are moving away from servicing older models and preferring to simply replace an old movement with a new one.

[subtona]

Originally Posted by Afficionado

The results are now tied at 7. Similar to my original ambivalence as to how to proceed. Take a purist perspective and stick to all original parts or go along with AP’s recommendation and heavy subsidy and obtain a new and more advanced movement at a fraction of the price. Not sure why they are even going down this route since a new movement should cost $$$. Unless they are moving away from servicing older models and preferring to simply replace an old movement with a new one.

If we were talking about a dial or hands or case my opinion would be very different. But the movement is a place we’re real improvements can be made without nostalgia being turned on its head.

[BogdanS]

Originally Posted by Afficionado

The results are now tied at 7. Similar to my original ambivalence as to how to proceed. Take a purist perspective and stick to all original parts or go along with AP’s recommendation and heavy subsidy and obtain a new and more advanced movement at a fraction of the price. Not sure why they are even going down this route since a new movement should cost $$$. Unless they are moving away from servicing older models and preferring to simply replace an old movement with a new one.

On one other hand, if you do this, there’s no ctrl+z to undo it. On the other hand, I guess they’ll offer you the same deal on any next service intervention so why do it now?


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[Humble michael]

Man, I would do that in a heartbeat! You are just making your timepiece better . If you ever wanted to sell it that would be a huge plus to a buyer. Long as it is done by AP , you are getting a new watch . Great opportunity, don’t miss it. Just my opinion, michael in San Antonio Tx

[Willyjo]

Don’t do it. I’m surprised they even offered you such an abomination.

[Qimchi]

No....god noooo...

[VFA]

Originally Posted by Afficionado

Does installing a new movement take away from what makes my edition so special?

Yes it does. Absolutely do not do this. It will be a mistake.

[Burlington]

Hmmm….an interesting dilemma

Personally I’d rather keep everything all original as it is a special piece.

If they offered upgrades for my diver I’d say yes, as it’s one of many and not as unique.

If you’re in doubt, pass on it as I’m sure you can do it again in the future.

[leisen]

I also doubted about it. Finally I accepted the caliber change for my ROO in accordance with the AP technician recommendation. The cost was exactly the same as the original caliber service, that is, 1355 EUR. I picked up the watch in AP Madrid last Monday. They only gave me a bill indicating "caliber replacement" without a new numbering or anything else which I found a bit rare.

[Animo Felonico]

It's common practice for AP to replace older movements, and even substitute newer, improved versions. This is different from Rolex, where this never happens at the RSC. I don't think it devalues the watch at all, and from a practical perspective, it makes it better. Let's face it, the movement on many ROs is more fragile than a submariner, so a brand new one seems like a great option.

[leisen]

I agree. Specially when it comes to caliber 3120 and derivatives which are a bit sickly.

[sokoloka]

I would have zero issues doing the swap. AP has upgraded the movement on two of my four ROO's already.

If documentation is a concern, both of my upgrades have come with the matching documentation describing the swap and the appropriate numbers.

Easy.

[leisen]

Originally Posted by sokoloka

I would have zero issues doing the swap. AP has upgraded the movement on two of my four ROO's already.

If documentation is a concern, both of my upgrades have come with the matching documentation describing the swap and the appropriate numbers.

Easy.

Thanks for your info. I think I’ll ask AP matching doc’s.