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P2725TMB · 18 January 2012, 12:26 AM

I'm thinking of buying a NATO strap for my DSSD to use as an option, looking at getting one through Timefactors.com. Can I ask if I would be best to use a 20mm one or 22mm? Measuring the watch end I get the impression a 20mm would be slightly too narrow whilst a 22mm might be too wide.

Has anyone used end links on a DSSD with NATO strap? I've asked Etur (who I believe makes custom end links) whether he could make any that fit a DSSD.

Thanks!

Dan Pierce · 18 January 2012, 12:29 AM

I'd go with a 22mm and it should fit without issue. Check page 3 [I think] of Etur's end link review and you'll find a nato used w/ Eugene's end links.
Not sure if Eugene has the measurements for the DSSD or not.
Good luck,
dP

P2725TMB · 18 January 2012, 12:41 AM

I was thinking a 22 would probably be the best choice as I don't want any visible gap and the wider strap would balance better visually anyway. Fingers crossed on the end links as I think these transform the use of straps, making them more an integral part of the watch.

Dan Pierce · 18 January 2012, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by P2725TMB

I was thinking a 22 would probably be the best choice as I don't want any visible gap and the wider strap would balance better visually anyway. Fingers crossed on the end links as I think these transform the use of straps, making them more an integral part of the watch.

While I'm a HUGE fan of Eugene's end links [just got my second pair and can't wait to get my watch back from service

] for standard straps they are not really needed on a nato as it addresses the gap already, IMHO.
dP

psv · 18 January 2012, 01:38 AM

What do mean thinking?! It is a $25 experiment on a $10,000 watch - just do it!!! :-)

22mm all the way. Avoid exposing the spring bars as much as possible. Also, they nylon will adjust a wee bit with water and sun, so 1mm extra will not be a problem.

Having said that, it gets a bit top heavy with a nylin strap and will flop a bit. A 22mm Isofrane is much more comfortable IMO.

Enjoy!

ErikXIV · 18 January 2012, 01:51 AM

PSV, thats a stunning watch!

/E

psv · 18 January 2012, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ErikXIV

PSV, thats a stunning watch!

/E

Tack så mycket! :-)

P2725TMB · 18 January 2012, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by psv

What do mean thinking?! It is a $25 experiment on a $10,000 watch - just do it!!! :-)

You're right - I've just ordered a green one and a James Bond grey/black in 22mm from Time Factors. Looking forward to going Nato!

Keeperoftime · 18 January 2012, 02:27 AM

That Looks Great!

Mickey® · 18 January 2012, 02:39 AM

SO the lugs on a DSSD are 21mm?

Dan Pierce · 18 January 2012, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mickey®

SO the lugs on a DSSD are 21mm?

Yep.
dP

liuk3 · 18 January 2012, 02:49 AM

Did you remove the bracelet yourself or did you have someone do it for you? If you had someone do it, who and how much did it cost? I don't want to phuck up my what, but at the same time I'd like the ability to go back and forth easily if desired. I'd likely just use the strap if I was going diving, otherwise I like the metal bracelet for everyday where.

RolexSA · 18 January 2012, 02:52 AM

I like the idea of putting a nylon (bright colored ) on my Deepsea . I do not think that a standard NATO strap has enough thickness to look good on a Deepsea . I was hoping to find a AP ROO style nylon or gummi strap to use on the beach this summer . Ideally one that could receive the original glidelock clasp .... wishful thinking perhaps ?

dddrees · 18 January 2012, 02:54 AM

Nice looking combo Patrick.

Lion · 18 January 2012, 03:08 AM

Patrick, your watch looks cool...enjoy!!!

RC2 · 18 January 2012, 03:20 AM

Nice watch ! I have my GMT on steel And sub on nylon.

bayerische · 18 January 2012, 03:22 AM

Old picture:

psv · 18 January 2012, 03:22 AM

Thanks guys. I still like it best on Isofrane

psv · 18 January 2012, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by liuk3

Did you remove the bracelet yourself or did you have someone do it for you? If you had someone do it, who and how much did it cost? I don't want to phuck up my what, but at the same time I'd like the ability to go back and forth easily if desired. I'd likely just use the strap if I was going diving, otherwise I like the metal bracelet for everyday where.

It is trivial to do by yourself, e.g. with a proper tool but I even do it with a large safety pin or small screw driver. If you are worried about scratches just tape the lugs on the backside.

RolexSA · 18 January 2012, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by psv

Thanks guys. I still like it best on Isofrane

Cool ! I like that setup

liuk3 · 18 January 2012, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by psv

It is trivial to do by yourself, e.g. with a proper tool but I even do it with a large safety pin or small screw driver. If you are worried about scratches just tape the lugs on the backside.

Yeah, everyone sends out the warning flags that you are going to totally jack up your watch doing it yourself. I was wondering how many people actually are doing it themselves on watches with no lug holes.

What is the proper tool to use and where do you get it? Thanks.

psv · 18 January 2012, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by liuk3

Yeah, everyone sends out the warning flags that you are going to totally jack up your watch doing it yourself. I was wondering how many people actually are doing it themselves on watches with no lug holes.

What is the proper tool to use and where do you get it? Thanks.

If you can change a light bulb you can safely change a strap.

P2725TMB · 18 January 2012, 03:57 AM

How secure on the wrist - from a point of view of movement - is the DSSD when fitted with a Nato? With the steel bracelet I'm amazed at how little movement there is considering the watch case weight, but then I wear it fairly tight.

liuk3 · 18 January 2012, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by psv

If you can change a light bulb you can safely change a strap.

Thanks. Is there a proper tool you use? If figure with all these watches now with no lug holes, it might be worth purchasing the tool if it's cheap enough.

P2725TMB · 18 January 2012, 04:10 AM

I just bought a Bergeon 6767 Spring Bar Fitting & Removal Tool which I'm hoping will do the job!

Dan Pierce · 18 January 2012, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by psv

If you can change a light bulb you can safely change a strap.

That counts me out.

dP

psv · 18 January 2012, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P2725TMB

How secure on the wrist - from a point of view of movement - is the DSSD when fitted with a Nato? With the steel bracelet I'm amazed at how little movement there is considering the watch case weight, but then I wear it fairly tight.

It is perfectly secure but it wobbles a bit, at least on my wrist. Isofrane remains the most comfortable as it has better fit due to more holes in the very comfortable 22mm strap, and it takes about 70 grams off the weight of the package (the DSSD is about 215 gr on the ss bracelet).

gslaskin · 18 January 2012, 11:32 AM

Man, I love the look of those watches on nylon.

liuk3 · 18 January 2012, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by P2725TMB

I just bought a Bergeon 6767 Spring Bar Fitting & Removal Tool which I'm hoping will do the job!

Let me know how that tool works out for you. Thanks.

P2725TMB · 20 January 2012, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by P2725TMB

You're right - I've just ordered a green one and a James Bond grey/black in 22mm from Time Factors. Looking forward to going Nato!

I received the two NATO straps. Whilst I quite like the green one which has a double thickness and seems to be made of a slightly more stiff material, I don't like the "James Bond" which is single thickness (to reduce thickness of material under watch case) as the watch "wobbles" on my wrist - I think the DSSD case is simply too weighty for it. This strap is the G10 RAF Pattern on the Time Factors website (http://www.timefactors.com/nato.htm) in 22mm width.

If anyone in the UK would like this strap free, gratis and for nothing PM me with your address and I will post it to you. Its not be worn, just tried on! I think it will only work on a lighter watch like a Sub though, not Deep Sea.

18 January 2012, 12:26 AM	#1
P2725TMB 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK Watch: AP, Rolex, Omega Posts: 1,335	Nato on DSSD I'm thinking of buying a NATO strap for my DSSD to use as an option, looking at getting one through Timefactors.com. Can I ask if I would be best to use a 20mm one or 22mm? Measuring the watch end I get the impression a 20mm would be slightly too narrow whilst a 22mm might be too wide. Has anyone used end links on a DSSD with NATO strap? I've asked Etur (who I believe makes custom end links) whether he could make any that fit a DSSD. Thanks!

18 January 2012, 12:29 AM	#2
Dan Pierce 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: D'OH! Location: Kentucky Watch: Rolex-1 Tudor-3 Posts: 35,733	I'd go with a 22mm and it should fit without issue. Check page 3 [I think] of Etur's end link review and you'll find a nato used w/ Eugene's end links. Not sure if Eugene has the measurements for the DSSD or not. Good luck, dP __________________ TRF Member# 1668 Bass Player in TRF "AFTER DARK" Bar & NightClub Band Commander-in-Chief of The Nylon Nation The Crown & Shield Club Honorary Member of P-Club

18 January 2012, 01:51 AM	#6
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18 January 2012, 02:49 AM	#12
liuk3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,347	Did you remove the bracelet yourself or did you have someone do it for you? If you had someone do it, who and how much did it cost? I don't want to phuck up my what, but at the same time I'd like the ability to go back and forth easily if desired. I'd likely just use the strap if I was going diving, otherwise I like the metal bracelet for everyday where. __________________ "Appreciate your life!"

18 January 2012, 12:41 AM	#3
P2725TMB 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK Watch: AP, Rolex, Omega Posts: 1,335	I was thinking a 22 would probably be the best choice as I don't want any visible gap and the wider strap would balance better visually anyway. Fingers crossed on the end links as I think these transform the use of straps, making them more an integral part of the watch.

18 January 2012, 01:38 AM	#5
psv "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North America Posts: 11,062	What do mean thinking?! It is a $25 experiment on a $10,000 watch - just do it!!! :-) 22mm all the way. Avoid exposing the spring bars as much as possible. Also, they nylon will adjust a wee bit with water and sun, so 1mm extra will not be a problem. Having said that, it gets a bit top heavy with a nylin strap and will flop a bit. A 22mm Isofrane is much more comfortable IMO. Enjoy!

18 January 2012, 02:39 AM	#10
Mickey® Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Mickey® Location: Atlanta, GA Watch: Swiss Made Posts: 5,801	SO the lugs on a DSSD are 21mm?

18 January 2012, 02:52 AM	#13
RolexSA Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Belgium Posts: 318	I like the idea of putting a nylon (bright colored ) on my Deepsea . I do not think that a standard NATO strap has enough thickness to look good on a Deepsea . I was hoping to find a AP ROO style nylon or gummi strap to use on the beach this summer . Ideally one that could receive the original glidelock clasp .... wishful thinking perhaps ?

18 January 2012, 02:54 AM	#14
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18 January 2012, 03:08 AM	#15
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18 January 2012, 03:20 AM	#16
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18 January 2012, 03:22 AM	#17
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18 January 2012, 03:57 AM	#23
P2725TMB 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK Watch: AP, Rolex, Omega Posts: 1,335	How secure on the wrist - from a point of view of movement - is the DSSD when fitted with a Nato? With the steel bracelet I'm amazed at how little movement there is considering the watch case weight, but then I wear it fairly tight.

18 January 2012, 04:10 AM	#25
P2725TMB 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK Watch: AP, Rolex, Omega Posts: 1,335	I just bought a Bergeon 6767 Spring Bar Fitting & Removal Tool which I'm hoping will do the job!

18 January 2012, 11:32 AM	#28
gslaskin Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Minnesota, USA Posts: 429	Man, I love the look of those watches on nylon.

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