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JAM123 · 26 May 2016, 03:52 AM

Suggestions please. I purchased my early 1980s 5513 new in Zurich. Wore daily for 15+ years. Great watch. Been overhauled recently. Don't wear much anymore because the Subs are so ubiquitous and I have several other dive watches. And I don't feel I need to impress anyone anymore. Another reason I don't wear it is because it has appreciated signficantly (837% to be exact compared to what I paid for it based on what I have been offered on a trade in).

I'm considering trading for a 2015 Explorer (plus I would receive a nice check from the dealer). I'd like a dressier, less cliche daily wearer. I wear a suit 4 days a week. I'm sold on the durability and "less is more" aspect of the Explorer. I also really like the Tudor Heritage Ranger.

My concern is I will probably regret parting with the Sub which has sentimental value to me but then again what good is a watch that does not get worn?

Thoughts?

Rolex fan 61 · 26 May 2016, 09:12 AM

My advice keep the sub and purchase the Explorer a good choice

Old Expat Beast · 26 May 2016, 09:16 AM

Keep the Sub and get a Ranger, is my advice.

Hollister · 26 May 2016, 09:18 AM

I'd forget about the modern Rolex (any modern Rolex) and keep the 5513.

sickened1 · 26 May 2016, 09:28 AM

Keep the sub and save up for the Explorer.

GradyPhilpott · 26 May 2016, 09:43 AM

Keep the Sub and keep saving.

CRM114 · 26 May 2016, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JAM123

Suggestions please. I purchased my early 1980s 5513 new in Zurich. Wore daily for 15+ years. Great watch. Been overhauled recently. Don't wear much anymore because the Subs are so ubiquitous and I have several other dive watches. And I don't feel I need to impress anyone anymore. Another reason I don't wear it is because it has appreciated signficantly (837% to be exact compared to what I paid for it based on what I have been offered on a trade in).

I'm considering trading for a 2015 Explorer (plus I would receive a nice check from the dealer). I'd like a dressier, less cliche daily wearer. I wear a suit 4 days a week. I'm sold on the durability and "less is more" aspect of the Explorer. I also really like the Tudor Heritage Ranger.

My concern is I will probably regret parting with the Sub which has sentimental value to me but then again what good is a watch that does not get worn?

Thoughts?

As you said, if you don't wear it what good is it? Time to go....take the profits and get something you will, and will enjoy. You have other dive watches.

The Explorer may not get the bandwidth and level of cheerleading here on TRF as the Sub does, but is exactly as you say; less cliche', simplicity of aesthetic design, no numbered bezel is dressier and adapts to suit-wearing like a chameleon, and as durable or more than anything Rolex makes.

It's your wrist, and from what you've said, go for the switch.

judson · 26 May 2016, 09:52 AM

I would add, maybe give the Sub to one of your children.

JAM123 · 26 May 2016, 10:21 AM

Thanks for the input thus far. I'm sure my 16 yr old son would love the Sub but in my opinion that is way too much watch for a kid.

stil · 26 May 2016, 10:30 AM

Keep the sub.

theflywrist · 26 May 2016, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JAM123

Thanks for the input thus far. I'm sure my 16 yr old son would love the Sub but in my opinion that is way too much watch for a kid.

I agree about that part.
Personally would keep the sub myself, however if it no longer sings, then I guess it has lost its sentiment.
214270 is also a great watch.

Would love to see pictures of your 5513.

Daytona88 · 26 May 2016, 10:39 AM

Never sell your first...many have regretted it, including me

mtgjr · 26 May 2016, 11:28 AM

KEEP THE SUB.

You will absolutely come to regret it one day if you get rid of it. What a great piece to pass down to your son one day in the future, even if it's many years down the road.

rossi46 · 26 May 2016, 11:32 AM

You're over the Sub. Sell it to me! ;-)

But, really, wait for the new 2016 Explorer.

RocketScience · 26 May 2016, 12:10 PM

Less is more is not about current exp2. It's a lot bigger, heavier than your sub, has maxi dial with that huge carrot on it = more watch presence on your wrist.

Jack T · 26 May 2016, 12:15 PM

Keep the Sub, take the canolis

cop414 · 26 May 2016, 12:20 PM

The thought that you would have even the slightest regret would cause me to keep it. You'll never be able to replace your first. It's been serviced, I'd put it away, maybe wear it on special occasions or if you're feeling nostalgic. Think of all the things that watch has been through with you. If at a later time when your son is ready, what an amazing gift for him or even a grandson.
I'd save and get the new Explorer when you can.

traf · 26 May 2016, 03:21 PM

Keep the sub!

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26 May 2016, 03:52 AM	#1
JAM123 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 2	Sub 5513 or Explorer 214270? Suggestions please. I purchased my early 1980s 5513 new in Zurich. Wore daily for 15+ years. Great watch. Been overhauled recently. Don't wear much anymore because the Subs are so ubiquitous and I have several other dive watches. And I don't feel I need to impress anyone anymore. Another reason I don't wear it is because it has appreciated signficantly (837% to be exact compared to what I paid for it based on what I have been offered on a trade in). I'm considering trading for a 2015 Explorer (plus I would receive a nice check from the dealer). I'd like a dressier, less cliche daily wearer. I wear a suit 4 days a week. I'm sold on the durability and "less is more" aspect of the Explorer. I also really like the Tudor Heritage Ranger. My concern is I will probably regret parting with the Sub which has sentimental value to me but then again what good is a watch that does not get worn? Thoughts?

26 May 2016, 09:43 AM	#6
GradyPhilpott 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: 116710 BLNR Posts: 34,345	Keep the Sub and keep saving. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

26 May 2016, 11:32 AM	#14
rossi46 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Dan Location: CT, by a lake Watch: shopping Posts: 1,465	You're over the Sub. Sell it to me! ;-) But, really, wait for the new 2016 Explorer. __________________ A watch is about the entire package, not just its appearance. Any large watch company not making its own movement is not making a watch at all; they’re just playing dress-up. --The Watch Snob

26 May 2016, 12:15 PM	#16
Jack T "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Jack Location: The Triangle Watch: Several Posts: 6,623	Keep the Sub, take the canolis __________________ Sub 116613 LN; GMT 116710 LN; Sinn 104R; Exp 214270; GS SBGM221; Omega AT

26 May 2016, 12:20 PM	#17
cop414 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Tim Location: Pennsylvania Watch: 14060M Posts: 71,824	The thought that you would have even the slightest regret would cause me to keep it. You'll never be able to replace your first. It's been serviced, I'd put it away, maybe wear it on special occasions or if you're feeling nostalgic. Think of all the things that watch has been through with you. If at a later time when your son is ready, what an amazing gift for him or even a grandson. I'd save and get the new Explorer when you can. __________________ Rolex Submariner 14060M Omega Seamaster 2254.50 DOXA Professional 1200T Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons TRF's "After Dark" Bar & NightClub Patron P Club Member #17 2 FA ENABLED

26 May 2016, 09:12 AM	#2
Rolex fan 61 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: UK Posts: 1,262	My advice keep the sub and purchase the Explorer a good choice

26 May 2016, 09:16 AM	#3
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Hong Kong Watch: SEIKO Posts: 28,356	Keep the Sub and get a Ranger, is my advice.

26 May 2016, 09:18 AM	#4
Hollister Banned Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: James Location: UK Watch: 114300 Posts: 1,750	I'd forget about the modern Rolex (any modern Rolex) and keep the 5513.

26 May 2016, 09:28 AM	#5
sickened1 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Ed Location: SoCal Watch: ugiveiswatchuget Posts: 8,961	Keep the sub and save up for the Explorer.

26 May 2016, 09:52 AM	#8
judson "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: USA Watch: changes depending Posts: 800	I would add, maybe give the Sub to one of your children.

26 May 2016, 10:21 AM	#9
JAM123 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 2	Thanks for the input thus far. I'm sure my 16 yr old son would love the Sub but in my opinion that is way too much watch for a kid.

26 May 2016, 10:30 AM	#10
stil Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: not stil Location: USA Watch: Rolex n Omega Posts: 1,327	Keep the sub.

26 May 2016, 10:39 AM	#12
Daytona88 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Watch: 5712 Posts: 2,595	Never sell your first...many have regretted it, including me

26 May 2016, 11:28 AM	#13
mtgjr Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Mike Location: Tampa, Florida Watch: Pepsi GMT Posts: 2,926	KEEP THE SUB. You will absolutely come to regret it one day if you get rid of it. What a great piece to pass down to your son one day in the future, even if it's many years down the road.

26 May 2016, 12:10 PM	#15
RocketScience "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Location Watch: 16570 Posts: 56	Less is more is not about current exp2. It's a lot bigger, heavier than your sub, has maxi dial with that huge carrot on it = more watch presence on your wrist.

26 May 2016, 03:21 PM	#18
traf "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: dave Location: miami Watch: me ride bikes Posts: 1,938	Keep the sub! Sent from my  iPhone 6 using Tapatalk

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