Can Rolex find out about flipping the Daytona? If so, does that get back to the AD an

[Chrono_lando]

My previous post got a little hectic and I wasn't able to ask this question so I figured I'd start a new post. Most of you said that I should get the DaytonaC and sell it. Can that get back to Rolex and hurt the AD for selling to me? The last thing I'd like to do is get my AD in trouble.


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[beshannon]

The sell watches they are not the CIA

[Chrono_lando]

Originally Posted by beshannon

The sell watches they are not the CIA

I've heard from several collectors that Rolex can find out if a limited piece has been flipped. Then hurts the AD.


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[m j b]

It could get back to Rolex, especially if they troll the forums. But it's only going to get the AD in trouble if they do not do something they were supposed to do, and I can't imagine what that could possibly be. There's no way an AD can stop you from doing whatever you want with your property, right?

All of the stories about mandatory engraving, holding the books, etc. are just stories. It's not Rolex policy.

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by Chrono_lando

I've heard from several collectors that Rolex can find out if a limited piece has been flipped. Then hurts the AD.


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Which piece is "limited"?

[mercman]

Once you walk out the door you can do what you want with the watch, it's your property.

[Mystro]

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Originally Posted by mercman

Once you walk out the door you can do what you want with the watch, it's your property.

[Tampashooter]

I've actually been standing there when a Mayors manager received a phone call from their Rolex rep letting him know that a Daytona C they sold was for sale in the grey market.

It wasn't a chastising type thing, just a " well damn" type thing.

There is zero doubt, at least at Mayors, that the better they know you, and the less likely you are to simply be a flipper, affects their willingness to offer to you the hard to come by pieces.

It was also the first time I had proof that Rolex really monitors whats for sale out there,

[HorologyK]

Originally Posted by Tampashooter

I've actually been standing there when a Mayors manager received a phone call from their Rolex rep letting him know that a Daytona C they sold was for sale in the grey market.

It wasn't a chastising type thing, just a " well damn" type thing.

There is zero doubt, at least at Mayors, that the better they know you, and the less likely you are to simply be a flipper, affects their willingness to offer to you the hard to come by pieces.

It was also the first time I had proof that Rolex really monitors whats for sale out there,

How would they even know ? Did the grey dealer give them the serial number ??

[richard371]

Agreed. What you do with the watch when you walk out the door is not the reposnsibilty of the AD or Rolex.

Originally Posted by Mystro

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[Tampashooter]

Originally Posted by HorologyK

How would they even know ? Did the grey dealer give them the serial number ??

I really don't know. Didn't ask the whys and how's.

[AK797]

Big Brother Rolex is watching you... this is not going to go well for Rolex... they better check themselves before they wreck themselves...

[richard371]

Also if Rolex didn't want this to happen they would make more. I think they like this. Stirs up interest.

[CLTRolex]

I thought Rolex were all rare

[BadBoyR]

An AD told me this also, said they would lose their franchise so choose carefully who they sell the rare pieces too.

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[Bigsykedaddy]

Originally Posted by HorologyK

How would they even know ? Did the grey dealer give them the serial number ??

Either the serial number or the little QR code on the side of the case. If you notice a lot of the grey dealers smudge out the QR code because that links it back to the AD apparently.

[coralfarmer84]

If ADs get in trouble for this how do the trusted sellers here offer so many BNIB offerings year in and year out, every one of them came from an AD, and I'm sure every grey seller has a "go to" AD to source what they want on the regular, that's how they get the discount to sell to you at a discount that still nets them a profit. These things aren't falling off the back of trucks in some dark alley

[roaddog359]

If you are worried put your tin foil hat on when you go to sell it. Big brother will never know then.

[Karlig]

Who cares what Rolex thinks, it's your watch and you can do whatever you want with it. How would then know anyway? They are selling watches worldwide and are probably not too concerned about what goes on here.

[OgSnowflake]

I like my Ad..but not enough to leave money on the table... if he could source me the box of rolex chocolates i might think otherwise.

[rodneygt3]

Interesting Discussion. I just saw something recently from Porsche about their GT cars and people flipping the cars to make a quick profit. Porsche would like to get the cars in the hands of the "drivers" and not the speculators. This applies to cars like GT3, GT3RS, and 911R to name a few. People would get a GT3RS for $180K and were flipping for over $300K!! The 911R is even worse and has sold for over $600K in the secondary market with a list price around $230K.

[Hotrod297]

They don't give a crap what you do!

All they want is the AD to make a $ale!

[locutus49]

Look, keep it from getting wet, do not wear it when you travel out of the U.S., and you can do whatever you want with it once you buy it. Completely legal to resell it. And ethical (well, according to my ethics).

[173rdabn]

As with any consumer product, when you buy it, you own it. Flip away

[Hotrod297]

Remember, this is a Company that allows their watches to be sold at "COSTCO"!!

That should tell you what they really think!

[116500LN]

Originally Posted by Hotrod297

Remember, this is a Company that allows their watches to be sold at "COSTCO"!!

That should tell you what they really think!

Pretty sure that's because they lost a lawsuit trying to fight it

[karmatp]

I do know that back when the Milgauss GV was super hard to get and selling for way over list on the secondary market, my AD got me one. I quickly realised that it was not for me and listed it for sale on TRF and TZ. The guy who sold it to me at my local AD called me a few days later and said Rolex knew that is was from their AD and that it was for sale on the forums.

I don't know how Rolex knows this stuff but they do.

[bdex75]

Not that Rolex has any power to do anything about it but they do watch the gray market sales and if they can get a serial or qr code the will call the dealer. Obviously the dealer cannot control their client and what they do with the watch. But this is why they (AD's) are very careful who they sell to most of the time.

Can Rolex or the AD do anything about you flipping your watch once they sell it to you, of course not. Can Rolex control what inventory they ship the AD in the future, you bet.


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[bdex75]

Originally Posted by bdex75

Not that Rolex has any power to do anything about it but they do watch the gray market sales and if they can get a serial or qr code the will call the dealer. Also heard rumor that they have been know to make a straw purchase or two. Obviously the dealer cannot control their client and what they do with the watch. But this is why they (AD's) are very careful who they sell to most of the time.

Can Rolex or the AD do anything about you flipping your watch once they sell it to you, of course not. Can Rolex control what inventory they ship the AD in the future, you bet.


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[Bigsykedaddy]

Originally Posted by coralfarmer84

If ADs get in trouble for this how do the trusted sellers here offer so many BNIB offerings year in and year out, every one of them came from an AD, and I'm sure every grey seller has a "go to" AD to source what they want on the regular, that's how they get the discount to sell to you at a discount that still nets them a profit. These things aren't falling off the back of trucks in some dark alley

Because usually people don't phone up Rolex and say I bought this watch from DSW and it came from "x" AD. Also the trusted sellers blur out the QR codes on the side of the watch.

Rolex knows it goes on and while I'm sure they don't like it they realize it's part of their business.