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Old 30 July 2017, 11:34 AM   #1
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Crown not completely screwed down

4 weeks ago when my Rolex Sub was just several days old, I was not able to completely screw down the crown. Please see the attached pictures. I left the crown that way after I read several threads here about not tightening the crown too much. I felt some resistance already when the crown was in that position. (Maybe because the watch was still new?) For 2 days the crown was left that way. The outer gasket was just under the edge of the crown. A bit of the gasket is inside. I washed my hands during those 2 days with the crown left at that position before I happened to pass by a Rolex dealer where a saleslady screwed the crown all the way.

After 4 weeks, I havent noticed any condensation under the crystal and no change to the +/-2 seconds per day accuracy. However, I cant see what's happening inside. Do you think water could have gotten in when I washed my hands or could it have possibly been forced through the last O-rings when the AD saleslady screwed it in?

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Old 30 July 2017, 11:45 AM   #2
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You need to attach the image
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Old 30 July 2017, 11:46 AM   #3
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I have always read that the gaskets do the real job of keeping the water out. Most , if not all Rolexes have 2 gaskets. Keep checking, but you should be fine
Good luck with your purchase.
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Old 30 July 2017, 11:47 AM   #4
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I think with the Triplock crown you should be alright.
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Old 30 July 2017, 11:51 AM   #5
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Sorry I could not resize the image quickly so I have uploaded them here:

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Old 30 July 2017, 11:52 AM   #6
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If you haven't seen signs of condensation on the inside by now, you are fine.
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Old 30 July 2017, 12:00 PM   #7
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You need to attach the image
Thank you for the reminder, kind sir. I'm not able to quickly resize the images but I have updated the original post with links to the pictures. I hope they are fine.
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Old 30 July 2017, 12:05 PM   #8
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Thank you for the reminder, kind sir. I'm not able to quickly resize the images but I have updated the original post with links to the pictures. I hope they are fine.
No need to worry, it is all ok how it is screwed down
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Old 30 July 2017, 12:05 PM   #9
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As I understand it, the triplock crown should maintain full waterproofness to the depth rating of the watch even when completely unscrewed. The inner gaskets do the work there. I wouldn't worry at all. Your watch is almost certainly fine.

I'm more curious as to why you weren't able to fully screw it down.
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Old 30 July 2017, 12:23 PM   #10
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As I understand it, the triplock crown should maintain full waterproofness to the depth rating of the watch even when completely unscrewed. The inner gaskets do the work there. I wouldn't worry at all. Your watch is almost certainly fine.

I'm more curious as to why you weren't able to fully screw it down.
Thank you. Maybe I took the warning not to tighten the crown too much too seriously 😂
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Old 30 July 2017, 12:23 PM   #11
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No need to worry, it is all ok how it is screwed down
Thank you for evaluating. 😊
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Old 30 July 2017, 09:57 PM   #12
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I have always read that the gaskets do the real job of keeping the water out. Most , if not all Rolexes have 2 gaskets. Keep checking, but you should be fine
Good luck with your purchase.
Thank you sir.
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Old 30 July 2017, 09:58 PM   #13
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I think with the Triplock crown you should be alright.
Thank you. I was maybe paranoid that finally screwing the crown back in could have forced the water in.
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Old 30 July 2017, 10:00 PM   #14
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If you haven't seen signs of condensation on the inside by now, you are fine.
Do you happen to know around how long the condensation would be visible if it did appear? Thank you.
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Old 30 July 2017, 10:24 PM   #15
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As mentioned before, the main seals are in the crown tube. You can go diving with the crown unscrewed and it'll be fine (members here have done it (accidently) and although not advised, the watch was fine).

Relax and enjoy the watch
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Old 31 July 2017, 12:05 AM   #16
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Safe as houses.
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Old 4 August 2017, 05:59 PM   #17
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As mentioned before, the main seals are in the crown tube. You can go diving with the crown unscrewed and it'll be fine (members here have done it (accidently) and although not advised, the watch was fine).

Relax and enjoy the watch
Thanks! ☉
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Safe as houses.

Thank you.
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After 4 weeks, I havent noticed any condensation under the crystal and no change to the +/-2 seconds per day accuracy. However, I cant see what's happening inside.
If you want to force test for condensation, we used to warm the watch up to about 45-50degC then put an IceCube on the crystal.

Do at your own risk

There should be enough seals on the crown stem to be "water resist" splash proof even if it's not locked down sealed, long as you didn't go immersing it.
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If you want to force test for condensation, we used to warm the watch up to about 45-50degC then put an IceCube on the crystal.

Do at your own risk

There should be enough seals on the crown stem to be "water resist" splash proof even if it's not locked down sealed, long as you didn't go immersing it.
More misinformation?

You should do some research.

I will try one more time.

Rolex has stated on their own website that their Triplock is rated to 500 Bar with the crown unscrewed.
A finger tight crown seal would not resist a pressure of 500 Bar, that is the function of the internal stem seals.
The screw down crown will prevent operation of the winding and setting functions when submerged and the first of the four seals stops dust etc. from entering the stem.

That does not sound like splash proof to me.

As proof, consider the simple Daytona pusher.
It has no screw down seal but is rated to 100 meters.
The screw down function is to prevent it from being used under water.
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More misinformation?

You should do some research.

I will try one more time.

Rolex has stated on their own website that their Triplock is rated to 500 Bar with the crown unscrewed.
A finger tight crown seal would not resist a pressure of 500 Bar, that is the function of the internal stem seals.
The screw down crown will prevent operation of the winding and setting functions when submerged and the first of the four seals stops dust etc. from entering the stem.

That does not sound like splash proof to me.

As proof, consider the simple Daytona pusher.
It has no screw down seal but is rated to 100 meters.
The screw down function is to prevent it from being used under water.
Thank you for sharing that infornation sir.
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Old 5 August 2017, 10:45 PM   #22
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Do you happen to know around how long the condensation would be visible if it did appear? Thank you.
It would probably have appeared within a few hours of wearing the watch, certainly within a day. I've had cheap watches get wet. Body heat on one side while wearing them and air cond room on the crystal side usually resulted in condensation within a few hours.

Relax and enjoy your watch.
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Old 5 August 2017, 11:15 PM   #23
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The crown should never touch the case, if it does have the gaskets checked they may have become compressed. The sealing occurs when the gasket inside the crown touches the case tube.

The crown needs only a finger tight seal, never apply excess pressure to try to get the crown against the case. The clearance between crown and case is normally .5mm-1.5mm. it has to be there because during use the gaskets begin to compress and that clearance is used up as they become flatter.
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