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Old 4 November 2017, 03:26 PM   #1
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Help on this 1675 chapter ring

I am thinking of buying this 1963 Master 1675 Gilt & Chapter Ring Mirror Dial.
The seller says that the dial and hand and others are all original.
The 24H hand seems too long... it comes with oyster rivet bracelet.
Also, what are chapter rings going for these days?
I would like to get your opinion on this. Any help will be much appriciated.
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Old 4 November 2017, 05:22 PM   #2
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Repolished case for starters.
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Old 4 November 2017, 11:42 PM   #3
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Hour and minute hands are later curved style and minute is to short
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Old 5 November 2017, 01:01 AM   #4
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Very good example of the value of posting here before buying. These pieces are so expensive and the details are such a huge part of the value, so getting lots of different eyes on anything can only be beneficial.
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Old 5 November 2017, 01:37 AM   #5
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Very good example of the value of posting here before buying. These pieces are so expensive and the details are such a huge part of the value, so getting lots of different eyes on anything can only be beneficial.
Yes indeed and they should be like these.
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Old 5 November 2017, 01:56 AM   #6
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Yes indeed and they should be like these.
Awesome watch Lee, and thank you for posting a photo of a correct gilt 1675 for everyone’s continuing education.
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Old 5 November 2017, 02:10 AM   #7
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Awesome watch Lee, and thank you for posting a photo of a correct gilt 1675 for everyone’s continuing education.
My pleasure Sir and thanks for the compliment.
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Old 5 November 2017, 02:26 AM   #8
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The red 24-hour hand is aftermarket. Notice the curve on the backside - it should be completely straight.
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Old 5 November 2017, 10:42 AM   #9
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Dear All, Thank you very much for the feed back. I really appriciate it.
I think I will pass on this one.
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Old 5 November 2017, 08:34 PM   #10
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What was the asking price? These are getting very high now, an excellent all correct example can easily be in the 30s usd


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Old 5 November 2017, 11:01 PM   #11
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This one is for 30K.


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Old 6 November 2017, 01:35 AM   #12
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The red 24-hour hand is aftermarket. Notice the curve on the backside - it should be completely straight.
Could you elaborate a bit more on this?

Do you mean the aftermarket guys use a rounded hand( the stick itself) and the original small hands are flat (they have a flat stick).
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Old 6 November 2017, 02:59 AM   #13
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Could you elaborate a bit more on this?

Do you mean the aftermarket guys use a rounded hand( the stick itself) and the original small hands are flat (they have a flat stick).
John means here in yellow.
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Old 6 November 2017, 03:02 AM   #14
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If you compare it with mine you can see the curve.
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Old 6 November 2017, 03:23 AM   #15
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Could you elaborate a bit more on this?

Do you mean the aftermarket guys use a rounded hand( the stick itself) and the original small hands are flat (they have a flat stick).
Here are some photos. By curved, I mean the back edge of the hand is curved, it should be straight on genuine hands. Also, the inner triangle lumed area is normally larger on the aftermarket hands.
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Old 6 November 2017, 06:57 AM   #16
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Damn that’s a minor detail..

Thank you guys!
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Old 6 November 2017, 06:59 AM   #17
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Damn that’s a minor detail..

Thank you guys!
Compare the photos again. Just not the curvature at the back but also the center hole in the hand.
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Old 6 November 2017, 07:24 AM   #18
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Well said Springer.
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Old 6 November 2017, 08:58 AM   #19
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Yes indeed and they should be like these.
I believe that the OP was specifically asking about watches with chapter ring dials. A somewhat different set of details.
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I believe that the OP was specifically asking about watches with chapter ring dials. A somewhat different set of details.
The hands would be the same for both watches. That is what my pics were for to compare hands!
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Old 6 November 2017, 09:15 AM   #21
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The hands would be the same for both watches. That is what my pics were for to compare hands!
Okay understand but hard to compare lengths without the ring. That said there were variations in the length of the 24 hour hand and there are many original examples where the tip crosses the perimeter of the ring. The OP's example may have a different hand issue though overall the watch appears superficially quite good doesn't it, at a price I should say!
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Humbled by guys like springer and Lee...crazy knowledge.
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Old 7 November 2017, 12:35 AM   #23
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Thank you for all your information. I have learnt so much.
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Old 7 November 2017, 02:48 AM   #25
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Thanks Guys & wow what a learning curve , excuse the pun as non intended . Another lesson learned following this thread thanks guys & knowledge is definitely power , I will look at 1675s more closely from now on.
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Old 7 November 2017, 01:34 PM   #26
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yes, you learn something new every day. Thank you very much.
What do you think about this one? again around 30K. (around 1960)
This one seems nicer, but need to check the 24H hand.
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Old 7 November 2017, 04:59 PM   #27
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I was able to get a good picture of the 24H hand. It look curved.
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Old 8 November 2017, 12:23 AM   #28
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I’m almost certain the dial is refinished. At the very least relumed but I wouldn’t touch it personally.


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