1978 Sub Red

[OldOak]

Evening all. First post on the vintage forum. I have listed after the red sub for a while. My friend is willing to part with heirs for circa £8k which seems good. However it looks serviced to me, he has no original papers or Service history. I am worried if it a genuine red and worth buying. It does have the stainless bracelet also.



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[OldOak]

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[gman5515]

Hi Andy, if based on a correct year of 1978, it seems to be circa 5.4 to 5.8 Million series. there's no dismissal on having a red sub in that year, as the red sub was produced till circa 1979. This should make it a MK VII dial, but I have no info on this dial variant, perhaps more experienced forummers here might, or even correct any of the info I've provided here.. But I do know 1978, there were the white subs already, so just be cautious. In my (infant) dealings with vintages, if you're not 100% certain, just walk away.

But I'm pretty certain the bezel insert is a service insert, as the fonts as thinner, and the pearl looks to be a luminova pearl.

Hope this helps.

[stevedssd]

Andy,

I'm not sure what the source of the information is, that says this is a 1978 Sub, the serial numbers of Reds run to around the 4m mark, with a few examples seen a little above that.

A 1978 1680 would have a serial number from around 548**** onwards and would have a White not Red Dial. It would be helpful to check the serial number, if you take the NATO off and look between the lugs at 6 0'Clock it's there. If you could post the first three numbers that would help.

I'll leave comments about the watch itself to the 1680 Red experts.

[OldOak]

Originally Posted by stevedssd

Andy,



I'm not sure what the source of the information is, that says this is a 1978 Sub, the serial numbers of Reds run to around the 4m mark, with a few examples seen a little above that.



A 1978 1680 would have a serial number from around 548**** onwards and would have a White not Red Dial. It would be helpful to check the serial number, if you take the NATO off and look between the lugs at 6 0'Clock it's there. If you could post the first three numbers that would help.



I'll leave comments about the watch itself to the 1680 Red experts.

Thanks for the help.
The serial starts 56589


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[nigelUK]

Seems too cheap to me.

If it's real your on to a massive winner.

[OldOak]

Originally Posted by nigelUK

Seems too cheap to me.



If it's real your on to a massive winner.

My friend isn’t too much into watches. He has been offered £8k but has seen them on eBay for £22k so he isn’t sure what he wants.
But if I’m buying it I don’t want it to be a standard with a replacement dial.


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[Zoran]

Originally Posted by AndyPhillips6

My friend isn’t too much into watches. He has been offered £8k but has seen them on eBay for £22k so he isn’t sure what he wants.
But if I’m buying it I don’t want it to be a standard with a replacement dial.


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Hi Andy,

If it is a 5.4 million serial it should be a white, not a red.
Red writing ran up to very early 4 million serials. White writing already appeared at 4.2 million serials.
They did NOT run up to 1979. No way

A dealer might offer him £8k to switch dials with a white one and sell the red dial separately or even put in a correct case.
If you are in the look for a while now, keep looking for the right one.
This is the best advice I can give you.

Good luck!

[OldOak]

Originally Posted by Zoran

Hi Andy,



If it is a 5.4 million serial it should be a white, not a red.

Red writing ran up to very early 4 million serials. White writing already appeared at 4.2 million serials.

They did NOT run up to 1979. No way



A dealer might offer him £8k to switch dials with a white one and sell the red dial separately or even put in a correct case.

If you are in the look for a while now, keep looking for the right one.

This is the best advice I can give you.



Good luck!

Thank you so much for the advice.


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[fusionstorm]

Need much crisper pics, and from all angles, to verify authenticity. The bezel insert is a replacement.