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Old 20 July 2009, 06:33 AM   #31
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If my watch was finished and done with all the work it needs, what would be a ballpark figure of its value? Anyone, anyone.....All I know is what I see on ebay and those are suspicious. Plus everyone on here laughs when they talk of people buying off ebay. I have heard some figures but they vary greatly. I'm just very curious and not wanting any offers.
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Old 20 July 2009, 08:15 AM   #32
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If my watch was finished and done with all the work it needs, what would be a ballpark figure of its value? Anyone, anyone.....All I know is what I see on ebay and those are suspicious. Plus everyone on here laughs when they talk of people buying off ebay. I have heard some figures but they vary greatly. I'm just very curious and not wanting any offers.
The prices vary between 20-40k in this market based on condition, originality, and if box +/- original warranty papers.

Do NOT believe some of the prices on eBay.... for example InterWatches is selling one for 180k.

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Old 20 July 2009, 08:29 AM   #33
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Thanks. I think I know the one your talking about, but isn't that a Patient Pending model? So the price would double if I had a box to slap the watch into? Thats funny to me. I have a Rolex box but its the one from the service center. I will send the pictures sometime.

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Old 21 July 2009, 01:04 AM   #34
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More Pictures

Here is the box and papers that I was talking about. The booklet has a lot of interesting facts about Rolex watches.
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Old 22 July 2009, 03:27 AM   #35
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Service box is not worth anything.

Service papers is worth some but not a lot.

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Old 22 July 2009, 10:51 AM   #36
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The service papers mean its not fake, thats about it. I guess its worth peace of mind to the person buying it, that it's the real deal. No, it will never be in the original box while I own it. I don't see the need to track one down either. If someone wants a double red that has never been opened then good luck finding that. If someone wants the illusion of an original double red in the original box, well.......thats fine and dandy too but I won't go there. So many watches out there with no paper work at all. I would personally never buy one without paperwork that I could at least reference with the service center. I would also check to see if it had been stolen before I transfered money. I would also send it in for service ASAP. Even with paperwork you can't guarantee someone didn't switch out parts with aftermarket parts or parts of lesser quality but still original. The only safe way to buy one in my book is to literally be in a watch shop where a watch jeweler could inspect it on the spot. Or just buy a new one from the dealer. Then again, you can trust the person your buying from.
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Old 22 July 2009, 11:56 AM   #37
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What the heck happened with that drill hole through the bracelet

Was some one drilling for oil or what
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Old 23 July 2009, 12:13 AM   #38
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Yes they were. The oil company Mc Dermott. It was a professional divers watch once and he had a Saint Christopher pendant attached thru that hole.
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Old 23 July 2009, 02:18 AM   #39
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I have tried to find out if Dennis Berry is still alive but had no luck. I even wrote Comex a quick email requesting info but nothing so far. I don't know if Comex was the contract company to Mc Dermott that supplyed the divers but there can't be too many companys in the seventy's with the technology to dive deep. I do know he was/is English. From what my mother tells me, he claimed that the watch did go to 2000 ft. She also said she asked him how he dealt with staying down for those lengths of time. His reply was that they used drugs. I found part of an article on diving at those depths which states they used narcotics to counteract the effects of High Pressure Nervour Syndrome. Interesting stuff. Here is the link to part of that article.

http://www.onepetro.org/mslib/servle...085-MS&soc=OTC

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Old 24 July 2009, 06:26 AM   #40
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"that bezel is not the common 5513 bezel first off..it is definitely thicker"

What bezel is it then?

"by the way,youll want a nice new 93150 bracelet with 580's for your everyday bracelet"

What is the difference between the 285's on mine and the 580's and (here is goes) are the 285's still available from Rolex? Is the 93150 904L stainless steel?
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Old 28 July 2009, 11:06 PM   #41
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I know my pictures aren't very good but can anyone tell if this is a Mark 3 dial? The other Sub on here with a very close serial number is thought to be a Mark 3. I looked at the double red website but I just can't tell the difference between them and I don't have the watch right now to compare. Perhaps a trained eye could lend a hand.
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Old 29 July 2009, 12:12 AM   #42
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My .02 is this. You have gotten heart felt advice from some very knowledgeble guys here. Guys I might add that are very, very passionate about this type of watch. Get the parts from Steve and send it to one of the independents mentioned. You can't go wrong this way IMO. I understand wanting ROLEX to do the work, but I truly believe that would be a mistake. If you must, then send it in with other parts like Dalton mentioned.
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Old 29 July 2009, 01:40 AM   #43
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The Rolex Service Center on San Fran will likely service your watch the way you want. Since they are not corporate, they have much more flexibility and all you have to do is talk to them and they will not replace dials or hands..

They probably cannot get you an original bezel, or an original bracelet.. but they can sell to you, and install, a proper service replacement bracelet..

Sometimes it takes a long time to track down and procure those final parts for a vintage watch.... you seem to want it all now...

Your early Dallas paperwork is valuable... it helps establish provenance, just like paper from San Fran will show that continuation...

Take your time.........do it right..
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Old 29 July 2009, 03:10 AM   #44
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Probably from my previous posts I appeared (and was) a bit frazzled. I am good now. I did the whole breathing "thing" and I am better. Yeah, the bezel is a bit elusive. I don't think even Rolex has the original band to offer. I have sent the watch off for evaluation so I will soon have a better idea what all it needs. I will be buying the 93150 band for sure. Thats going to set me back a good thousand dollars I figure. I have no idea how much the service and parts (depends on where I get the parts) are going to set me back. After I have the entire watch complete, I will look into the original band being evaluated. I am definately taking my time now and in no rush. In the mean time I am having fun learning all about the different Rolex's out there. I wish I had taken better pictures. I think the auto focus prevents me from penetrating through the crystal down to the dial leaving the photo out of focus. Hopefully I can post some nice clear pictures of it restored in the future. I will definately keep you all posted on its progress.
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Old 29 July 2009, 06:52 AM   #45
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I hope to see the photos as soon as all is done.
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Old 30 July 2009, 09:43 AM   #46
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Well, it should be about a month before you see them. I have given the "ok" to go ahead with the work. I'm happy as a clam (oyster in this "case").
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Old 9 August 2009, 01:48 AM   #47
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The bill so far is $1670.
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Old 9 August 2009, 03:16 AM   #48
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who is doing it for you?
good luck and cant wait for pictures
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Old 9 August 2009, 03:29 AM   #49
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I was afraid someone was gonna ask that. I'm not sure if it is a good idea to say and I definately don't want to offend anyone. Everyone has been so good giving advice and now working on the watch. I would have to ask them before I post. If they don't have a problem with it, then I will definately post it. When the watch is done I will ask them.
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Old 15 August 2009, 03:07 AM   #50
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Update, nothing yet. Having trouble sleeping, feeling a bit nauseated, slightly dizzy, and my blood pressure is beyond the depth rating of the watch. Other than that, I'm hangin in there.
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Is that because of the price DW72? Or just the excitement to be getting it back? Please ask the WM and tell us who it is after they are done.
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Old 15 August 2009, 04:55 AM   #52
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Is that because of the price DW72? Or just the excitement to be getting it back? Please ask the WM and tell us who it is after they are done.
I knew the price would be high. I am worried about the pressure testing and the watch being flooded. I am also worried about paint coming off of the dial when its removed from the case. I wonder if anyone had a watch being service where the dial has stuck to the case and pulled off some paint. I am worried about the case refinish. Will my crown guards be polished down to an arrowhead point? Are they going to bevel the edges like that poor chap in the UK? Any number of things can go wrong. Other than that, I don't have a worry.
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Old 15 August 2009, 06:38 AM   #54
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You worry to much chill it will be ok.
Thats easy for you to say. I haven't even told you about how worried I am about the mailman!
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Thats easy for you to say. I haven't even told you about how worried I am about the mailman!

Why? Do your kids look like him?



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Thats easy for you to say. I haven't even told you about how worried I am about the mailman!
What the heck did I do now

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Why? Do your kids look like him?



You can't prove anything. I gotta go BYE
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Why? Do your kids look like him?



No, thats the milkman.
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You can't prove anything. I gotta go BYE
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I knew the price would be high. I am worried about the pressure testing and the watch being flooded. I am also worried about paint coming off of the dial when its removed from the case. I wonder if anyone had a watch being service where the dial has stuck to the case and pulled off some paint. I am worried about the case refinish. Will my crown guards be polished down to an arrowhead point? Are they going to bevel the edges like that poor chap in the UK? Any number of things can go wrong. Other than that, I don't have a worry.
........None of this will be a worry if you sent it to the right place.......

Hopefully you did...and if so, chill man it'll be fine.
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........None of this will be a worry if you sent it to the right place.......

Hopefully you did...and if so, chill man it'll be fine.
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im just wondering who it is who has it
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