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Old 21 July 2023, 03:57 AM   #1
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White hang tag

Hi everyone. New to TRF.. I've been wearing a black sub since about 2016 and never really put much thought into a different watch until about a month ago when I got the itch to upgrade to a daytona. I go on the Rolex website and confirm yes this is what I want! Oblivious to what's been going on in the watch market over the last few years I walk over to my local AD and tell them I'd like to purchase a new daytona. Looking back I'm pretty sure there was an eyeroll, but they politely informed me that it wasn't happening and they would put me on the interested list... This causes me to do a deep dive into why. I have learned a lot in a couple weeks LOL. Ultimately I went with basically my only option and purchased on the grey market. I bought from a reputable dealer on a popular platform and it came with everything except the white hang tag. I didn't think much of it until I stumbled on a youtube video of a guy saying its very important when dealing with the grey market. Just thought I'd get some opinions on here. Thanks
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Old 21 July 2023, 04:38 AM   #2
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No, it's not really important, unless it's important to you.

There isn't a nickels difference in "value" with or without any of the hang tags.
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Old 21 July 2023, 04:40 AM   #3
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The white hang tag provides you with the information of what dial your watch was originally fitted with. For example, your Daytona could have had a dial swap
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Old 21 July 2023, 04:59 AM   #4
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A complete box set has become more and more important the last five years. Some people may use the not having the white hang tag as a haggling point.
Obviously, it does not add or take away from the enjoyment of the actual watch.
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Old 21 July 2023, 05:15 AM   #5
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Can we see a pic of you4 Daytona? We love pics!

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Old 21 July 2023, 05:17 AM   #6
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Can we see a pic of you4 Daytona? We love pics!

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Old 21 July 2023, 05:18 AM   #7
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Imo, the white hang tag only matters on extreme hype dials that are counterfeited for that extra premium. For example; the John Mayer green dial, or any meteorite dial.


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Old 21 July 2023, 05:19 AM   #8
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I’ll echo the picture request. At least tell us which Daytona you bought.


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Old 21 July 2023, 05:36 AM   #9
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Old 21 July 2023, 06:04 AM   #10
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Lovely watch.
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Old 21 July 2023, 06:22 AM   #11
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Beautiful watch Congratulations! This one is my favorite model.
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Old 21 July 2023, 06:28 AM   #12
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Don’t worry about it.
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Old 21 July 2023, 06:39 AM   #13
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So the white tag is important for the more hyped dials. Its a proof of your specific dial. For example, the white ceramic daytona sells for 5-8k more than the black one. This will incentivize shady people to swap the black dial for a white dial and make extra profits. However, in your case, having the black one which is less valuable, there would be no incentive to change from an original white dial to a black one. So for you, the white tag doesn't really matter.
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Old 21 July 2023, 06:50 AM   #14
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So the white tag is important for the more hyped dials. Its a proof of your specific dial. For example, the white ceramic daytona sells for 5-8k more than the black one. This will incentivize shady people to swap the black dial for a white dial and make extra profits. However, in your case, having the black one which is less valuable, there would be no incentive to change from an original white dial to a black one. So for you, the white tag doesn't really matter.
However, even that difference isn't one to really worry too much about. It's those watches where one dial sells for many multiples of others. Turquoise/red OP41, olive DD come to mind.
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Old 21 July 2023, 07:11 AM   #15
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I wouldn’t worry too much about the white tag. If you bought from someone you trust than it makes no difference.
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Old 21 July 2023, 07:19 AM   #16
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So the white tag is important for the more hyped dials. Its a proof of your specific dial. For example, the white ceramic daytona sells for 5-8k more than the black one. This will incentivize shady people to swap the black dial for a white dial and make extra profits. However, in your case, having the black one which is less valuable, there would be no incentive to change from an original white dial to a black one. So for you, the white tag doesn't really matter.
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I wouldn’t worry too much about the white tag. If you bought from someone you trust then it makes no difference.
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Original poster, congrats on the awesome watch.. dont stress about the white tag, a large percentage of authorized dealers out there (usually outside of the United States) keep the white barcode tag and the customer never actually got to receive it.. Additionally, the AD’s who are backdooring watches straight into the grey market (selling several at a time directly to a second market dealer) they’re also usually not letting them have the barcode (white tag) either.. So in short, it’s no problem…. If you ever go to sell your watch in the future it’ll probably yield you $500 less MAYBE $1000 at the absolute most so
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Old 21 July 2023, 07:27 AM   #17
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it doesnt matter. If the dealer is reputable, you have nothing to worry about.

I remember buying a datejust and the AD didnt give me the white tag, when I sold it the buyer pointed it out but it didnt have any effect on the price.

As some have pointed out, it may be important for some very rare dials but not otherwise.
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Old 21 July 2023, 07:39 AM   #18
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When I got my SD43 in 2017, I remember being told by the AD that they always keep the white hangtag. They could run into trouble if Rolex were to see that hangtag with the watch on the grey market. Five years later, they lost their AD status.
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Old 21 July 2023, 08:14 AM   #19
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All this was very helpful. Thank you! Now on to my next problem, being hooked on watches LOL. I already want a root beer. SMH…
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Old 21 July 2023, 08:34 AM   #20
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It's nonsense. If you can fake a watch, fake a card, and fake a box, how hard is it to fake a white hang tag?!

At some point, you need to just buy from a reputable seller and enjoy the damn watch.
I see this on the Panerai lists. These guys want the watch, papers, inner box (the nice wood one), middle box (the black cardboard one), and outer box (the one that the ups driver touches when he delivers it to your home). Because somehow that magically makes the watch real?! (I bought a first-year Pam00233 dot dial without any of that and brought it to Panerai for service, with no issues whatsoever.) Just buy from reputable sellers and forget this nonsense.
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Old 21 July 2023, 08:45 AM   #21
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Congrats! Its a beautiful watch. Enjoy it !!!
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Old 21 July 2023, 09:12 AM   #22
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Imo, the white hang tag only matters on extreme hype dials that are counterfeited for that extra premium. For example; the John Mayer green dial, or any meteorite dial.


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White Panda Daytona, Hulk Sub, and Tiffany OP, etc too
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