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Rwatcher · 22 April 2020, 07:35 PM

6006G (Amazing value for the finer details, Calatrava Cross buckle & 240 Microrotor with a little off the cuff dial for Patek)

or

5227R or G - simply classic, versatile and the officers case back as mentioned above beautiful.

yoast · 22 April 2020, 08:54 PM

I don't own one but if I would get a Calatrava it would be a 5153G-012 London 2015 edition or a 5196P

Petroc Tremaine · 22 April 2020, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Waiteu2

As Bill above 5296R in Rose.
Very versatile IMO.

That's my favourite as well.

3 Putt · 22 April 2020, 09:46 PM

I have the 5196j and the 5127g. I use the 5196 for dressier occasions, but it can be worn anytime. The 5127g is elegant perfection to me. The crown guards make it appear more solid and it is very unassuming in white gold.

I have a blue alligator strap on order from ABP for the 5127. This will make it great for that "country club" casual look with a sport-coat and jeans.

Calatrava r · 23 April 2020, 12:07 AM

3923

campfire · 23 April 2020, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by djona

Agreed. I considered the 5296, in both sector and non-sector variants, and the 6000, before deciding on the 5196. I do wish it had a movement fit for the case and a display back, but I love that it’s a manual wind and no-date. The solid gold back looks and feels great. I view the 5196 as a classically-designed modern dress watch.

Also consider the 5227.

Very nice.

scarlet knight · 23 April 2020, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by campfire

Very nice.

Really great dress watch!

Rags2Rolex · 23 April 2020, 05:22 AM

Love all the watches & everyone contributing to my questions, many thanks! I have some research to do, its lovely seeing TRF members have good taste and appreciate other fine watches outside of Rolex.

campfire · 23 April 2020, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rags2Rolex

Love all the watches & everyone contributing to my questions, many thanks! I have some research to do, its lovely seeing TRF members have good taste and appreciate other fine watches outside of Rolex.

This is the fun part. Enjoy.

hdfb910 · 23 April 2020, 07:22 AM

Another vote for the 5227

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fluffybunny · 23 April 2020, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ts3

Got a small and minimalist 3998P years ago as the more current Patek dress watches 5196, 5296, and now 5227 wear too large on my wrist. The non-sector 5296 and the 5227 have also got too much empty real estate on the dial for my taste. I like the 5000 and 5096 as well though.

Agree with this - the new Calatravas are too big. Unless you have really large wrists, most look like dinner plates.

My 3998j:

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Touring · 23 April 2020, 10:48 AM

If no date, then any of the 5196 variants.

If date, then any of the 5227g dial variants.

campfire · 23 April 2020, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Touring

If no date, then any of the 5196 variants.

If date, then any of the 5227g dial variants.

Unless I'm missing something, that's the pickle I find with Calatrava right now. The 5296 was in good spot (at least price wise) between these two. Right now, it's a big jump from the 5196 to the 5227.

I used to have a 5296G which I loved....but foolishly sold. (Why did I do that?) Now I go through days when I want a Calatrava again, but feel limited by the options.

uniqueMR · 23 April 2020, 03:30 PM

6006g

djona · 23 April 2020, 06:42 PM

N_Architect · 23 April 2020, 08:08 PM

5196, no question about it.
It is a watch that was classic decades back, it is a classic today, and will still be a classic few decades down the line. Classic but not 'conservative' or dull.

Choice of metal is up to you.
I had the YG version and it looked great, Plat version is even better.
And the PP pin buckle is just a beauty.

jon_jon · 23 April 2020, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rags2Rolex

Been looking a lot at Patek Calatrava watches for a dress watch, mainly Reference #5117 in gold (not rose gold). Love the looks of this watch & more importantly the exhibition case back.

Anyone own a Calatrava that could give me some wisdom on these watches & which model you would recommend for a starter Calatrava? are older Calatrava models that are manual just as good as the modern pieces! what do these things cost at an AD? are they impossible to get?

The 5117 reference has been discontinued for over 10 years. So if you really like it, you will need to find it pre-owned. It is more difficult to shop for pre-owned, because a lot of times, you won't be able to try it on, unless you find the watch at a local store.

Before getting your first Patek Calatrava, ask yourself a few questions:
1) Automatic or manual wind?
2) Clear case back or solid case back or Hunter case back?
3) Date or no date?
4) Smooth case bezel vs hobnail bezel?
5) Tang buckle or deployant clasp?
6) YG, RG, WG, Plat or SS?
7) Seconds hand or no seconds hand?

Otherwise when shopping for a pre-owned watch, always be aware that the watch may need a servicing and that not everything may be original (e.g. Tang buckle). Also box and papers may be important for some.

Enjoy your watch shopping experience

d11n · 24 April 2020, 02:32 PM

I have two..very happy with both and would recommend....

5196G for a classic dressy watch, manual, no date

5227R with hunter case, automatic, date, cream dial and T stamp for something extra

..

campfire · 24 April 2020, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d11n

I have two..very happy with both and would recommend....

5196G for a classic dressy watch, manual, no date

5227R with hunter case, automatic, date, cream dial and T stamp for something extra

..

Nice.

jamestucker · 24 April 2020, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fabio62

" The Calatrava"

Beautiful watch

scurfa · 24 April 2020, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d11n

I have two..very happy with both and would recommend....

5196G for a classic dressy watch, manual, no date

5227R with hunter case, automatic, date, cream dial and T stamp for something extra

..

perfect duo

Calatrava r · 25 April 2020, 02:15 AM

Lukasz23212 · 25 April 2020, 06:40 PM

5296r-001 the best

Codik · 25 April 2020, 07:53 PM

There is no substitute to the 5196r. Preparing an unboxing video, here’s a preview :)

campfire · 26 April 2020, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Codik

There is no substitute to the 5196r. Preparing an unboxing video, here’s a preview :)

Nice. Please share the link when it's ready.

campfire · 26 April 2020, 05:08 AM

Actually, just saw that you shared it in another thread. Nice.

Codik · 26 April 2020, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by campfire

Actually, just saw that you shared it in another thread. Nice.

Thank you, appreciated.

Hendrikus · 26 April 2020, 06:54 PM

5120G-001 for me, but on a bright blue OEM strap these days : posted here:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=732749

Pongster · 26 April 2020, 07:23 PM

Are the 3940, 5140 and 5327 considered calatravas?

jd57 · 27 April 2020, 03:11 AM

Curveball- wanted a Patek dress watch but already had Langes, an FPJ, a UJ and a day-date. And other Pateks (5164R, 5070R, 5905P) None of the Calatravas added much - then I found this.

22 April 2020, 08:54 PM	#32
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22 April 2020, 09:46 PM	#34
3 Putt "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Jeff Location: Florida/China Watch: All of them Posts: 241	I have the 5196j and the 5127g. I use the 5196 for dressier occasions, but it can be worn anytime. The 5127g is elegant perfection to me. The crown guards make it appear more solid and it is very unassuming in white gold. I have a blue alligator strap on order from ABP for the 5127. This will make it great for that "country club" casual look with a sport-coat and jeans. __________________ “If you drink, don’t drive. Don’t even putt.” ― Dean Martin

23 April 2020, 07:22 AM	#40
hdfb910 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Pete Location: Texas Posts: 571	Another vote for the 5227 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Patek Philippe 5711/1A-010, Patek Philippe 5170G, Patek Philippe 5227R, Audemar Piguet 15400or, Audemar Piguet 15707ce, Audemar Piguet 26331IP, Audemar 15500 Blue dial, Rolex Pepsi 16710, Rolex Sub 116619LB (Smurf) F.P Journe Platinum Chronometre Souverain, Old School Breitling SuperOcean A17360, Jaeger LeCoultre Geophysic Tru Seconds Instagram: @donpedro_007

23 April 2020, 03:30 PM	#44
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23 April 2020, 08:08 PM	#46
N_Architect "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Kons Location: ATH Watch: Moser rose gold Posts: 467	5196, no question about it. It is a watch that was classic decades back, it is a classic today, and will still be a classic few decades down the line. Classic but not 'conservative' or dull. Choice of metal is up to you. I had the YG version and it looked great, Plat version is even better. And the PP pin buckle is just a beauty. __________________ Travel, See, Feel, Explore.

22 April 2020, 07:35 PM	#31
Rwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: North,UK Posts: 445	6006G (Amazing value for the finer details, Calatrava Cross buckle & 240 Microrotor with a little off the cuff dial for Patek) or 5227R or G - simply classic, versatile and the officers case back as mentioned above beautiful.

23 April 2020, 12:07 AM	#35
Calatrava r 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: United States Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 10,596	3923

23 April 2020, 05:22 AM	#38
Rags2Rolex "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: West Coast Watch: Sub ND/GMT II SS Posts: 133	Love all the watches & everyone contributing to my questions, many thanks! I have some research to do, its lovely seeing TRF members have good taste and appreciate other fine watches outside of Rolex.

23 April 2020, 10:48 AM	#42
Touring 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Hoth Posts: 1,242	If no date, then any of the 5196 variants. If date, then any of the 5227g dial variants.

23 April 2020, 06:42 PM	#45
djona "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: USA Watch: N/A Posts: 457

25 April 2020, 02:15 AM	#52
Calatrava r 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: United States Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 10,596

25 April 2020, 06:40 PM	#53
Lukasz23212 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Poland Posts: 91	5296r-001 the best

25 April 2020, 07:53 PM	#54
Codik "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: UK Posts: 284	There is no substitute to the 5196r. Preparing an unboxing video, here’s a preview :)

26 April 2020, 05:08 AM	#56
campfire "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: here Posts: 2,104	Actually, just saw that you shared it in another thread. Nice.

26 April 2020, 06:54 PM	#58
Hendrikus 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Norfolk, UK Watch: All of them... Posts: 798	5120G-001 for me, but on a bright blue OEM strap these days : posted here: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=732749 __________________ A collector of Rolex, Patek, Vacheron, JLC and Cartier

26 April 2020, 07:23 PM	#59
Pongster "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Marikina Posts: 2,561	Are the 3940, 5140 and 5327 considered calatravas?

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