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Old 5 April 2020, 02:41 AM   #5131
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Was that fair Bas?
Was his initial post fair?

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This kind of proves my point - it’s never their fault, everyone else has a duty to give them anything they want and to make them happy.

If they screw up, then blame the older generation

Victim culture
Yet you do the exact same.. but blame the young generation. The pot calling the kettle black...
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Agree, no conspiracy. This was either zoonotic or accidental discharge from a health lab. There is no evidence of a conspiracy.

In the end, all conspiracy theories are based on a group of people being smart enough to conspire and disciplined enough to keep a secret. My experience is that most people are neither.

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Same goes for 9/11.
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Old 5 April 2020, 02:46 AM   #5133
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Same goes for 9/11.
Agree BigBlue.

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Old 5 April 2020, 02:47 AM   #5134
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This is an interesting article regarding the possible vs. likely origins of Covid-19. And to me is is frightening.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...a6d_story.html

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Old 5 April 2020, 02:48 AM   #5135
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Agree BigBlue.

Stay safe.
You as well,

The 9/11 conspiracy and all it would take to pull it off and now one of this magnitude.
Imagine if we could incorporate politics into the Pandemic conversation.

Steve would be pushing delete and running for the hills.
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Old 5 April 2020, 03:06 AM   #5136
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I certainly agree - this is no conspiracy.

In fact, the simulation being cited took the basic 2009 Swine Flu real world pandemic into case work. Changed the venue from Asia and/or Mexico to Brazil and made it more virulent than other options to build resilient brainstorming among the participants.

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Agree, no conspiracy. This was either zoonotic or accidental discharge from a health lab. There is no evidence of a conspiracy.

In the end, all conspiracy theories are based on a group of people being smart enough to conspire and disciplined enough to keep a secret. My experience is that most people are neither.

Stay Safe.
Same here. No conspiracy. Here is Bill Gates TED talk titled, “the next outbreak? We’re not prepared”.

https://youtu.be/6Af6b_wyiwI

This was in 2015. If anything, the right word would be prescient.
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Old 5 April 2020, 03:10 AM   #5137
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Same here. No conspiracy. Here is Bill Gates TED talk titled, “the next outbreak? We’re not prepared”.


This was in 2015. If anything, the right word would be prescient.


While I didn’t necessarily like him as a competitor, he has turned the corner from self-centered to benevolent.

I fixed your YT link because the TED Talk is worth seeing.

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While I didn’t necessarily like him as a competitor, he has turned the corner from self-centered to benevolent.

I fixed your YT link because the TED Talk is worth seeing.

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You compete against Bill Gates?

Who are you dude???
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Old 5 April 2020, 03:17 AM   #5139
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I understand your sarcasm but feel it is unwarranted. I am just baffled at the response as clearly mistakes have been made and continue to be made at a lot of costs, lives being the greatest.
I give you my word of honor I’m not being sarcastic. I genuinely would like to know what your thoughts are on that because people are not going to stay home. It’s not going to happen.
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Old 5 April 2020, 03:18 AM   #5140
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Who are you dude???


Competed - as in past tense.


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Old 5 April 2020, 03:22 AM   #5142
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Conspiracy theories or not .

The UN has been calling for a NWO for a very long time!

Bush 1 mentioned it back in 1990 , WHO and

other organizations now including the Pope probably

soon will chant the mantra .

I ask you Paul in all sincerity, does this global

pandemic draw us closer to a NWO where

big brother is in charge of all or not ?

Controlling our health decisions, new traveling demands

probably a new biometric chip vaccine in the works all

in the name of safety ... With our freedom at cost .

No , there’s no going back after this . This was the straw

that broke the camels concerning our liberty as we knew it .

Peace , love and prayers for all ...


I’m not getting into that convo - and please put down the Kool-Aid pitcher - first 5G, now NWO?


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it’s so off topic and happened in the early ‘80’s to be irrelevant here.

But I now respect his current efforts and what he’s done with the Foundation.


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Old 5 April 2020, 03:28 AM   #5144
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This is an interesting article regarding the possible vs. likely origins of Covid-19. And to me is is frightening.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...a6d_story.html

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Covid-19 was started by dogs. There is plenty of evidence of this.

In fact, it may be backfiring because they are getting so much attention and so many walks a day now, that they may begin to rethink it.
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I give you my word of honor I’m not being sarcastic. I genuinely would like to know what your thoughts are on that because people are not going to stay home. It’s not going to happen.
People already are staying home. Never understand the argument that if you cannot get 100% compliance its not worth doing, or that you must have some sort of police state to make sure there is 100% compliance. Doing pretty well without the heavy hand of the police and military.

https://citymapper.com/cmi/nyc

On march 2 100% of NYC residents "moved" or were "moving" beyond their homes. On April 3 it was 6%. Nobody being arrested. Parks not closed. People acting in their own best interest.
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Nothing like a pandemic to bring out all the tinfoil hat people. But it helps to refine the ignore list by ferreting out the cranks.
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People already are staying home. Never understand the argument that if you cannot get 100% compliance its not worth doing, or that you must have some sort of police state to make sure there is 100% compliance. Doing pretty well without the heavy hand of the police and military.

https://citymapper.com/cmi/nyc

On march 2 100% of NYC residents "moved" or were "moving" beyond their homes. On April 3 it was 6%. Nobody being arrested. Parks not closed. People acting in their own best interest.
You were saying?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-yor...es-11586008801
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Nothing like a pandemic to bring out all the tinfoil hat people. But it helps to refine the ignore list by ferreting out the cranks.
Of course calling people you disagree with names always helps. Right right back at you.
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Covid-19 was started by dogs. There is plenty of evidence of this.



In fact, it may be backfiring because they are getting so much attention and so many walks a day now, that they may begin to rethink it.




The little people on Mars know who is dominant on Earth. They see how the humans cater to Dogs every need, feed them, bathe them, are led by them down the road by the leash...last and not least we follow and pick up their poop for them...

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So that dispels the notion that people are staying home how? You said people would not stay home. I provided data that they were.
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The United Nations wanting a one world government or as you call it “New World order” is no secret. They’re not shy about saying that it’s their desire for that all the time. It’s most certainly not a conspiracy theory. There are hundreds of legitimate articles on it with actual world leaders advocating for it all over the place. The above mentioned Bill Gates is absolutely on board for that and is not shy to say so. Now whether this current virus crisis catapults us closer to that remains to be seen.
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I’m not getting into that convo - and please put down the Kool-Aid pitcher - first 5G, now NWO?


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The United Nations wanting a one world government or as you call it “New World order” is no secret. They’re not shy about saying that it’s their desire for that all the time. It’s most certainly not a conspiracy theory. There are hundreds of legitimate articles on it with actual world leaders advocating for it all over the place. The above mentioned Bill Gates is absolutely on board for that and is not shy to say so. Now whether this current virus crisis catapults us closer to that remains to be seen.
I hope not but as you say we shall see.
Yet some say I’m drinking Kool Aid.
I’m definitely not drinking theirs.
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Of course calling people you disagree with names always helps. Right right back at you.
Some things are objective not subjective. Earth is flat. Vaccines cause autism. These thing are objectively wrong, not a belief or disagreement.

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But I now respect his current efforts and what he’s done with the Foundation.


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Some of my compatriots have decided that destroying critical telecommunications infrastructure is the way forward. Brilliant.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-52164358
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Saw this story and liked it :) Maybe gives us a little hope in these dire times.

It is a slow day in the small Saskatchewan town of Pumphandle, and streets are deserted.

Times are tough, everybody is in debt, and everybody is living on credit.

A tourist visiting the area drives through town, stops at the motel, and lays a $100 bill on the desk saying he wants to inspect the rooms upstairs to pick one for the night.

As soon as he walks upstairs, the motel owner grabs the bill and runs next door to pay his debt to the butcher. The butcher takes the $100 and runs down the street to retire his debt to the pig farmer. The pig farmer takes the $100 and heads off to pay his bill to his supplier, the Co-op. The guy at the Co-op takes the $100 and runs to pay his debt to the local prostitute, who has also been facing hard times and has had to offer her "services" on credit. The hooker rushes to the hotel and pays off her room bill with the hotel owner. The hotel proprietor then places the $100 back on the counter so the traveler will not suspect anything.

At that moment the traveler comes down the stairs, states that the rooms are not satisfactory, picks up the $100 bill and leaves.

No one produced anything. No one earned anything. However, the whole town is now out of debt and now looks to the future with a lot more optimism. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how a Stimulus package works.
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And for those in this thread that have made the comparison to the flu, this chart is for you. The worst week ever for flu hospitalizations compared to one week for COVID in NYS.
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The little people on Mars know who is dominant on Earth. They see how the humans cater to Dogs every need, feed them, bathe them, are led by them down the road by the leash...last and not least we follow and pick up their poop for them...

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x box series x is due out this fall 2020. Bill gates owns Microsoft. He probably started COVID19 to boost sales.

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I can assure you most New Yorkers are not burglars so I don't see how that is a good example of the General public. I just stepped out a couple of hours ago to pick up medication for my mother from the pharmacy and it's pretty much a ghost town with barely anyone on the streets
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