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Derbyshere · 6 March 2020, 04:01 AM

Is it just me or am I being too old fashioned by liking the older logo designs to the new one?

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Kimber007 · 6 March 2020, 04:36 AM

Maybe they will stop using the worlds cheapest paint on them. I feel like 80% of BMW's that are a few years old the emblem is completely faded. I've never seen this problem on any other manufacturer.

Cru Jones · 6 March 2020, 04:51 AM

Grill, then front wheel drive and now that logo.... what is happening at BMW??

V25V · 6 March 2020, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Cru Jones

Grill, then front wheel drive and now that logo.... what is happening at BMW??

The 318ti back in the day was FWD.

WILLIWALKER · 6 March 2020, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Blansky

I posted this before. Where the grille idea came from. Cow catchers.

Very interesting, thank you for the input.
I connect this new logo with a green turn

greggsiam · 6 March 2020, 11:29 PM

I sometimes wonder why things change, but eventually get over it and like designs that I didn't like before. Some designers are on track, the change is just a bit hard to perceive at first. For those that know what they are doing, I welcome the new perspective.

beshannon · 6 March 2020, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cru Jones

Grill, then front wheel drive and now that logo.... what is happening at BMW??

They lost their motorsports roots and went upscale/leasing/millennial seeking to sell their untold number of models to gotta have it buyers.

The people on the BMW forum I frequent have lamented this for years and many of them are on there for the off topic conversation, many of them no longer own BMW cars either.

Spartacus · 6 March 2020, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by beshannon

They lost their motorsports roots and went upscale/leasing/millennial seeking to sell their untold number of models to gotta have it buyers.

The people on the BMW forum I frequent have lamented this for years and many of them are on there for the off topic conversation, many of them no longer own BMW cars either.

Agree 100%.

dtwer · 7 March 2020, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by beshannon

They lost their motorsports roots and went upscale/leasing/millennial seeking to sell their untold number of models to gotta have it buyers.

The people on the BMW forum I frequent have lamented this for years and many of them are on there for the off topic conversation, many of them no longer own BMW cars either.

I have owned BMW cars and still own their motorcycle, I echo the sentiment. Over the years I see the subtle moves to cheaper material or designs through the product life cycle updates. Case in point. The newest generation of their best selling bikes, the gs, no longer come with the tried and true Brembo front brakes. They are replaced by Hayes, a lesser and presumably less costly brand.

bremersm · 7 March 2020, 10:14 AM

BMW...lets make our cars unreliable and hideous...?....Profit...?

Randy63 · 7 March 2020, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by V25V

The 318ti back in the day was FWD.

The 318ti was based on the e36 platform and was rear wheel drive.

Psmith · 7 March 2020, 12:26 PM

I like the new BMW badge (and the grilles) - will be interesting to see how it looks on more 'mainstream' models and different colours, and how used in the interior i.e. steering wheels.
The Rolex logo (assuming the coronet) has varied over the years, hence the 'frog foot' and 'Bart Simpson'...

T-Bag · 23 November 2020, 06:27 AM

I was going to get a 4 series but the new grill was just too terrible in person. So I bought a 3 series and love it. Even the dealer understood and agreed that the new grill on the 4 series is almost universally disliked. I guess if I lived in Europe, the front license plate would break it up a bit. But that grill is just too big.

stratguy · 23 November 2020, 07:05 AM

I've owned more than a dozen BMW's in my life. Used to be a huge fan. They have completely lost their way IMO. Way too many models, mediocre design, and the grills - don't get me started there.

inglewood1026 · 23 November 2020, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

It’s the new grills that have me wondering ...

Amen. M3/4 are no bueno.

RRGHOST1 · 23 November 2020, 07:17 AM

Love all the new big grills from BMW,the new 4 looks great.

breitlings · 24 November 2020, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by inglewood1026

Amen. M3/4 are no bueno.

It seems like a mixed bag, many seem to think they aren't really faster than the old ones, when previously there was a big jump gen to gen.

The supras and their tt "40" and "50" engines do put up good times on dragy.

TDOR · 24 November 2020, 02:38 PM

it a little unfair to Rolex to liken it to BMW, Rolex is more of a Benz than BMW.

twitch54 · 25 November 2020, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

It’s the new grills that have me wondering ...

agreed, damn near makes a Lexus good looking ! total YUCK !!

Speedbird-1 · 25 November 2020, 08:26 AM

Change happens.

That new BM badge, looks like, soft plastic, that would peal off easily.

martinr · 25 November 2020, 10:03 AM

How’s this grill look?

twitch54 · 25 November 2020, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by martinr

How’s this grill look?

like a patch on a 'jackass' ...........

arinsd · 30 November 2020, 01:34 PM

Loyal BMW owner here on my 4th 5 series. I really don’t understand where the new styling is headed. I guess we’ll find out.

swink6112 · 30 November 2020, 03:24 PM

It's like any new things... ugly till you get used to it then... meh not so bad after all.

Rock · 30 November 2020, 03:44 PM

Not all new things are ugly. If you "have to get used to it" it is proof that it is ugly. Anyhow, Audi was probably the first to go nuts with the 'Big Grille' styling.

Paul7 · 1 December 2020, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rock

Not all new things are ugly. If you "have to get used to it" it is proof that it is ugly. Anyhow, Audi was probably the first to go nuts with the 'Big Grille' styling.

Look at the grill on the new Hyundai Santa Fe, also crazy big. As one reviewer put it, it's an acquired taste.

VonSomething · 1 December 2020, 01:44 AM

What's funny is that their marketing and design departments most likely spent $2,000,000 in salaries and expenses coming up with this.

MrGoat · 1 December 2020, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by martinr

How’s this grill look?

It’s not a genuine BMW, the nostrils are too small.

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Paul7 · 1 December 2020, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by VonSomething

What's funny is that their marketing and design departments most likely spent $2,000,000 in salaries and expenses coming up with this.

They could have just asked 100 random people, but what do I know.

Watchflair · 1 December 2020, 06:28 AM

BMW is in a tough spot - it's been building up to this for a number of years. They've had the highest per vehicle incentive of any manufacturer for almost 9/10 years running now.

Their quality has suffered because of it - simply enough that amount of incentivizing has to come from somewhere. They had an overly robust product line up that lost it's identity along the way as well. They cut corners to produce models that they maybe shouldn't have produced.

The plus is that this could be a sign they are getting back on track and trying to rekindle their brand identity.

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Derbyshere Banned Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: USA Posts: 189	Is it just me or am I being too old fashioned by liking the older logo designs to the new one? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

6 March 2020, 04:36 AM	#32
Kimber007 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Poker Table Watch: Rolex, AP Posts: 491	Maybe they will stop using the worlds cheapest paint on them. I feel like 80% of BMW's that are a few years old the emblem is completely faded. I've never seen this problem on any other manufacturer.

6 March 2020, 04:51 AM	#33
Cru Jones 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 34,501	Grill, then front wheel drive and now that logo.... what is happening at BMW??

6 March 2020, 11:29 PM	#36
greggsiam "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Real Name: Gregg Location: Bangkok Posts: 694	I sometimes wonder why things change, but eventually get over it and like designs that I didn't like before. Some designers are on track, the change is just a bit hard to perceive at first. For those that know what they are doing, I welcome the new perspective.

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bremersm Banned Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Charlotte Posts: 647	BMW...lets make our cars unreliable and hideous...?....Profit...?

23 November 2020, 06:27 AM	#43
T-Bag "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Arizona Posts: 365	I was going to get a 4 series but the new grill was just too terrible in person. So I bought a 3 series and love it. Even the dealer understood and agreed that the new grill on the 4 series is almost universally disliked. I guess if I lived in Europe, the front license plate would break it up a bit. But that grill is just too big.

23 November 2020, 07:05 AM	#44
stratguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: USA Watch: Speedmaster Pro Posts: 670	I've owned more than a dozen BMW's in my life. Used to be a huge fan. They have completely lost their way IMO. Way too many models, mediocre design, and the grills - don't get me started there.

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TDOR Banned Join Date: May 2020 Location: usa Posts: 92	it a little unfair to Rolex to liken it to BMW, Rolex is more of a Benz than BMW.

30 November 2020, 01:34 PM	#53
arinsd "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: So. Cal Watch: 116610LN Posts: 828	Loyal BMW owner here on my 4th 5 series. I really don’t understand where the new styling is headed. I guess we’ll find out.

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swink6112 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Real Name: Wink Location: city of angels Watch: Casio Robot Watch Posts: 148	It's like any new things... ugly till you get used to it then... meh not so bad after all.

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VonSomething "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Europe Posts: 821	What's funny is that their marketing and design departments most likely spent $2,000,000 in salaries and expenses coming up with this.

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