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Old 19 November 2020, 03:36 AM   #31
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That’s so awesome! Mega congrats to such a milestone in your collecting. I have yet to pull the trigger myself, but until that day comes I’ll live vicariously through you, enjoy!!!
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Old 20 November 2020, 02:37 AM   #32
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what's the point of "getting" your grail watch from someone who listed the 5164A for S$75K, and listing the same watch less than a week later for S$80K, Mr TrackingTime?
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Old 20 November 2020, 02:45 AM   #33
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what's the point of "getting" your grail watch from someone who listed the 5164A for S$75K, and listing the same watch less than a week later for S$80K, Mr TrackingTime?
just curious, where did you see that ?
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Old 20 November 2020, 02:53 AM   #34
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what's the point of "getting" your grail watch from someone who listed the 5164A for S$75K, and listing the same watch less than a week later for S$80K, Mr TrackingTime?
Not sure where you got this conclusion by looking at the OP's wrist shot.

Also, what's the point on your post? It really doesn't matter what the OP paid as long as he is happy with the purchase. I don't follow the price on the 5164 extensively, but prices on all brands and models change dynamically.
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Old 20 November 2020, 02:57 AM   #35
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Not sure where you got this conclusion by looking at the OP's wrist shot.

Also, what's the point on your post? It really doesn't matter what the OP paid as long as he is happy with the purchase. I don't follow the price on the 5164 extensively, but prices on all brands and models change dynamically.
i agree with this. price doesn’t matter. if someone wants the watch and is ok with price, end of story.
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Old 20 November 2020, 03:05 AM   #36
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i agree with this. price doesn’t matter. if someone wants the watch and is ok with price, end of story.
i think the implication is that trackingtime is flipping the watch.
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Old 20 November 2020, 03:10 AM   #37
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i think the implication is that trackingtime is flipping the watch.
did he post a ad on forum? not sure i’m following where he said he was flipping it.
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Old 20 November 2020, 03:18 AM   #38
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me neither that's why i asked.
but if i read correctly he paid 75k and selling for 80k ?
not really flipping anyway right ?
dunno what to make of it really
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Old 20 November 2020, 03:56 AM   #39
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Old 20 November 2020, 04:27 AM   #40
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what's the point of "getting" your grail watch from someone who listed the 5164A for S$75K, and listing the same watch less than a week later for S$80K, Mr TrackingTime?
because if it ever get sold, i may use the funds and pay for a brand new piece.
so what's the point of your post?
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Old 20 November 2020, 04:29 AM   #41
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me neither that's why i asked.
but if i read correctly he paid 75k and selling for 80k ?
not really flipping anyway right ?
dunno what to make of it really
lol. i think he's referring to a local marketplace that we use.

doesn't really matter, it's still my grail, i may choose to list it for a higher price, so if it does get sold, i may use the funds for a brand new piece.

but do i really need to account my actions to people in this forums?
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Old 20 November 2020, 04:30 AM   #42
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i agree with this. price doesn’t matter. if someone wants the watch and is ok with price, end of story.
exactly. i may even top up cash to get a brand new piece, that's why i don't see any problem.
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Old 20 November 2020, 04:37 AM   #43
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what's the point of "getting" your grail watch from someone who listed the 5164A for S$75K, and listing the same watch less than a week later for S$80K, Mr TrackingTime?
https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...1&postcount=26

your piece looks awfully similar to mine. same ding at the same location. did you flip it after wearing it for awhile? lololol



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Old 20 November 2020, 06:07 AM   #44
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exactly. i may even top up cash to get a brand new piece, that's why i don't see any problem.
exactly man. it’s your watch if you chose to flip it that’s your business.
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Old 20 November 2020, 09:47 AM   #45
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agreed. enjoy it, or enjoy selling it :)
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Old 20 November 2020, 02:17 PM   #46
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OP’s bezel and watch have clearly been polished...
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Old 20 November 2020, 02:33 PM   #47
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OP’s bezel and watch have clearly been polished...
Care to share? Learning new things everyday.
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Old 21 November 2020, 01:02 AM   #48
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i think the implication is that trackingtime is flipping the watch.
Difficult to justify a grail with the view of flipping it, in my honest opinion.
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Old 21 November 2020, 01:03 AM   #49
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Looks a great match with the grey/black dial, think I'm gonna gift myself one for Xmas.


Congratulations OP, that’s a beauty and one I’d look to add someday perhaps
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Old 21 November 2020, 01:05 AM   #50
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your piece looks awfully similar to mine. same ding at the same location. did you flip it after wearing it for awhile? lololol


It's a keeper for me, which is infinitely more I can say for you with respect to the 5164A.
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Old 21 November 2020, 01:06 AM   #51
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Always been a fan of the khaki with SS watches. Question about the strap, does the Rubber B sit lower than the lugs? It seems like so in your pictures.
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Old 21 November 2020, 01:11 AM   #52
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Always been a fan of the khaki with SS watches. Question about the strap, does the Rubber B sit lower than the lugs? It seems like so in your pictures.
The RubberB strap is meant for the '67, so it's a suboptimal fit on the '64.
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Old 21 November 2020, 01:19 AM   #53
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exactly man. it’s your watch if you chose to flip it that’s your business.
While you may be fine with flipping, I do think there is a significant portion of the community that frowns on that. Then again, trackingtime isn't the first owner flipping the 5164A, so I couldn't care less about that.

I do however have an issue with the cavalier attitude to getting one's grail (as so claimed), and listing the grail watch almost immediately for sale after getting it ("flipping"). Whatever the reason may be, it reeks of hypocrisy.
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Old 21 November 2020, 03:05 AM   #54
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While you may be fine with flipping, I do think there is a significant portion of the community that frowns on that. Then again, trackingtime isn't the first owner flipping the 5164A, so I couldn't care less about that.

I do however have an issue with the cavalier attitude to getting one's grail (as so claimed), and listing the grail watch almost immediately for sale after getting it ("flipping"). Whatever the reason may be, it reeks of hypocrisy.
fair point. while one can do as they please, typically we don't flip grails.
unless our tastes change and it's no longer a grail. or other circumstances change

there was that one video posted about the guy with the 5711. i think he may have owned it for a couple years and had some changes in his life which led him to sell.
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While you may be fine with flipping, I do think there is a significant portion of the community that frowns on that. Then again, trackingtime isn't the first owner flipping the 5164A, so I couldn't care less about that.

I do however have an issue with the cavalier attitude to getting one's grail (as so claimed), and listing the grail watch almost immediately for sale after getting it ("flipping"). Whatever the reason may be, it reeks of hypocrisy.
Well i don’t have any comment on him calling it his grail then flipping it. my
comment is if you buy a luxury Patek and chose to flip it that’s the owners business. to be frank, that doesn’t bother me like it bothers a lot of others. personally I would never flip a watch. But what I will say is I’m not answering to anyone what I do with my personal property. Sell it buy it or wear it...
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Old 21 November 2020, 03:31 AM   #56
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In fact, i would disagree with him calling it his grail and then deciding to flip it. that makes no sense.
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Old 21 November 2020, 05:32 AM   #57
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such a funny thread, it's not even a hobby anymore...
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Old 22 November 2020, 04:12 AM   #58
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While you may be fine with flipping, I do think there is a significant portion of the community that frowns on that. Then again, trackingtime isn't the first owner flipping the 5164A, so I couldn't care less about that.

I do however have an issue with the cavalier attitude to getting one's grail (as so claimed), and listing the grail watch almost immediately for sale after getting it ("flipping"). Whatever the reason may be, it reeks of hypocrisy.


wow! lol
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Old 22 November 2020, 04:15 AM   #59
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In fact, i would disagree with him calling it his grail and then deciding to flip it. that makes no sense.
to me, getting to a grail piece is a goal to me.

i got it, i am wearing it. even if i choose to flip it, that's my business.
i don't have to account to anyone or to those who think they're on the ivory tower, judging people about hypocrisy.

if i managed to sell it, i top it up for brand new piece, but is that anyone's business? no.

i am here to share what I got, anything else is secondary.
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Old 22 November 2020, 04:16 AM   #60
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It's a keeper for me, which is infinitely more I can say for you with respect to the 5164A.
lol. then we have the same watch with the same ding on the same location..
how lucky is that

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