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Dewitte · 7 August 2016, 04:40 PM

Dropped by my AD who couldn't wait to show off his latest delivery.. the brand new Vacheron Overseas ultra-thin. Have to say I'm very, very tempted..

White gold instead of steel. No date, no second hand. Pure simplicity. A few immediate impressions: I) You can definitely spot the white gold sparkle relative to SS. II) it feels ALOT heavier than the 5711.. given its gold perhaps I should not have been surprised, but it really stood out to me. III) the bracelet is gorgeous, but a lot wider & thicker than I expected vs both the 5711 and 15202. IV) the case didn't feel ultra thin; about as wide as the 5711 I was wearing today.

Only issue.. It's 2x the price of the 5711. I'm sure that will put most in the Nautilus camp, though by the same token, that makes this Vacheron all the more exclusive and special when you see it out and about.

Would be eager to hear what others think.. (will reply to this post with 2 other photos as for some reason my phone can only upload one at a time!)

Dewitte · 7 August 2016, 04:42 PM

Another photo

Dewitte · 7 August 2016, 04:45 PM

and one final one

Hairdude1 · 7 August 2016, 05:42 PM

It is nice however 5711 is a 5711 and the clear winner

cinch · 7 August 2016, 05:54 PM

Stainless steel vs precious metal is not a fair comparison, try against the 5711g or better still the 5711r as its on a bracelet. Either way I think the 5711 wins.

benlee · 7 August 2016, 06:04 PM

Maybe it's the lighting but the dial looks very wash out. Anyway, the new VC ultra-slim is a nice watch but imo does not compare to the 5711 or the 15202 in terms of physical appeal and rich iconic heritage.

Passionata · 7 August 2016, 07:09 PM

I like the bezel design otherwise never a fan of non contrasting dials.

andyol1966 · 7 August 2016, 08:07 PM

Doesn't do it for me,,,5711 design far nicer.

KarlS · 7 August 2016, 08:24 PM

I think this is a $ 55 000 watch so 5711 wins by a mile!! I do like the idea of interchangeable straps but to be frank the VC is a bit of a yawn...sorry!

GoingPlaces · 7 August 2016, 08:56 PM

I like the new VC ultra thin watches, they did a nice job on them. I would still go with the PP, 55K opens up a lot of doors in the watch world.

Fiery · 7 August 2016, 09:11 PM

While it's a lovely time piece, with that price tag it's hopeless I'm afraid. For cca. half the price you can get the same movement in a much nicer package and much greater heritage: AP Royal Oak 15202ST. If it has to be an Overseas, then I'd rather save up a bit more and get the Overseas Ultra-Thin Perpetual. That watch is stunning, has no equivalent (competitor) in Patek's lineup, and it also has got a much more interesting dial and complication.

ap1 · 7 August 2016, 09:29 PM

Tough to tell in the plastic wrap - I feel it's a strong watch from the hodinkee article pics etc but the price is very high. I think it's boutique only which means at full price it's a pass to me

AK797 · 7 August 2016, 10:23 PM

I think the VC is nice but as the name has fallen quite some way behind PP and AP and now Lange too, I think this needs to be priced far more competitively to sell well or distract sales from those brands.

lig · 7 August 2016, 11:42 PM

Not even if the price were the same.

malarky_hk · 7 August 2016, 11:49 PM

Nice alternative provided by VC. However, at that price point there's just too many other options available.

VC would have to make a SS version very competitively priced to be able to lure away would be 5711 buyers.

Reky · 8 August 2016, 12:23 AM

Any pictures of the movement?

goog53 · 8 August 2016, 12:31 AM

Not a bad piece and I am not a flipper but in my decision I would have to factor in resale and VC just does not have the demand like other high end brands so it would be an easy pass for me. The perpetual is cool but damn expensive

lapince · 8 August 2016, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarlS

I think this is a $ 55 000 watch so 5711 wins by a mile!! I do like the idea of interchangeable straps but to be frank the VC is a bit of a yawn...sorry!

Exactly my thoughts, and the movement is even more a yawn than the rest of the watch... If ever you do really want one, wait for them to arrive on the preowned market, they'll probably have the classic huge VC price drop and you'll save a ton...

Fiery · 8 August 2016, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reky

Any pictures of the movement?

http://cdn.fratellowatches.netdna-cd...thinn-8594.jpg

Of course it looks very similar to its brother:

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ps04f059f5.jpg

The new VC rotor looks stunning, but the skeletonized rotor AP uses reveals a lot more of the movement.

willski · 8 August 2016, 01:49 AM

I like the new overseas collection and think VC are going in the right direction.

As mentioned, i think the new ultra thin is really quite pricey...although to be fair on same level as 5711R and 16202OR.

My favorite is the world time actually...

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lapince · 8 August 2016, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willski

I like the new overseas collection and think VC are going in the right direction.

As mentioned, i think the new ultra thin is really quite pricey...although to be fair on same level as 5711R and 16202OR.

My favorite is the world time actually...

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The WT has by far the nicest movement to look at, all the other VCO have quite boring movements IMO

cervantes · 8 August 2016, 02:22 AM

Don't love it though it seems very well-made. Vacheron used the same hands for the three handers (both ultra-thin and regular model) and the chronograph model. The hands are too long on the three-hand models, they go past the markers. Just a strange design decision. I also don't love the idea of a watch built around a theme of the brands logo - the maltese cross. Just an uninspired design to me. It would be like if Patek designed a sports watch around the Calatrava cross.

mps354 · 8 August 2016, 03:01 AM

I'm not a huge fan of that vacheron. But, I would love it if my 5711 could go from bracelet to rubber to leather with that quick change system it has

subtona · 8 August 2016, 03:18 AM

Can not come to terms with all those crevices in the bezel.

brmeyers · 8 August 2016, 03:28 AM

VC is nice, I really tried to get into it, but the design aesthetic just doesn't do it for me.
Doesn't compare in my opinion.
5711 clear winner PM or not.

willski · 8 August 2016, 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lapince

The WT has by far the nicest movement to look at, all the other VCO have quite boring movements IMO

Indeed. I like the dial as well (although it is quite busy).

For business travel it in theory is a great watch. Bracelet/rubber for plane, leather/braclet for work, and bracelet/rubber for casual.

Looking forward to seeing it in person :)

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GB-man · 8 August 2016, 04:36 AM

I just don't love the VC aesthetic. Never will.

martinr · 8 August 2016, 05:18 AM

Just another watch in my opinion, nothing special except the price.

RUK · 8 August 2016, 06:11 AM

200% of the price of a 5711 now and may be .75% of the price of a 5711 in 5 years?

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texex91 · 8 August 2016, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martinr

Just another watch in my opinion, nothing special except the price.

So is that an incoming Martin

7 August 2016, 05:42 PM	#4
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7 August 2016, 06:04 PM	#6
benlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Ben Location: SIN & JKT Watch: Rolex, AP, PP Posts: 9,873	Maybe it's the lighting but the dial looks very wash out. Anyway, the new VC ultra-slim is a nice watch but imo does not compare to the 5711 or the 15202 in terms of physical appeal and rich iconic heritage. __________________ Follow me on Instagram : benlee789

7 August 2016, 07:09 PM	#7
Passionata "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: N/A Watch: the girls Posts: 7,095	I like the bezel design otherwise never a fan of non contrasting dials. __________________ Best George "Also remember that feet don't get fat and a watch will always speak volumes." Robert Johnston --------------------- newhttps://youtu.be/EljAF-uddhE new http://youtu.be/ZmpLoO1Q8eQ IG @passionata1

7 August 2016, 09:11 PM	#11
Fiery "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Europe Watch: Sub-C 116610LN Posts: 2,649	While it's a lovely time piece, with that price tag it's hopeless I'm afraid. For cca. half the price you can get the same movement in a much nicer package and much greater heritage: AP Royal Oak 15202ST. If it has to be an Overseas, then I'd rather save up a bit more and get the Overseas Ultra-Thin Perpetual. That watch is stunning, has no equivalent (competitor) in Patek's lineup, and it also has got a much more interesting dial and complication. __________________ "In an age of obsolescence and gimmickry, this simple classic virtue of a Rolex is indeed a rarity." (Rolex ad from 1974)

8 August 2016, 03:18 AM	#24
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 25,987	Can not come to terms with all those crevices in the bezel. __________________

7 August 2016, 05:54 PM	#5
cinch "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: uk Posts: 802	Stainless steel vs precious metal is not a fair comparison, try against the 5711g or better still the 5711r as its on a bracelet. Either way I think the 5711 wins.

7 August 2016, 08:07 PM	#8
andyol1966 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Andy Location: East Midlands, UK Watch: Patek and Rolex Posts: 1,074	Doesn't do it for me,,,5711 design far nicer.

7 August 2016, 08:24 PM	#9
KarlS Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Karl Location: Kuwait Posts: 5,228	I think this is a $ 55 000 watch so 5711 wins by a mile!! I do like the idea of interchangeable straps but to be frank the VC is a bit of a yawn...sorry!

7 August 2016, 08:56 PM	#10
GoingPlaces "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 5,341	I like the new VC ultra thin watches, they did a nice job on them. I would still go with the PP, 55K opens up a lot of doors in the watch world.

7 August 2016, 09:29 PM	#12
ap1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,035	Tough to tell in the plastic wrap - I feel it's a strong watch from the hodinkee article pics etc but the price is very high. I think it's boutique only which means at full price it's a pass to me

7 August 2016, 10:23 PM	#13
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,220	I think the VC is nice but as the name has fallen quite some way behind PP and AP and now Lange too, I think this needs to be priced far more competitively to sell well or distract sales from those brands.

7 August 2016, 11:42 PM	#14
lig "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: PacNW Watch: Enthusiast Posts: 2,605	Not even if the price were the same.

7 August 2016, 11:49 PM	#15
malarky_hk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: ... Watch: Rolex Posts: 4,466	Nice alternative provided by VC. However, at that price point there's just too many other options available. VC would have to make a SS version very competitively priced to be able to lure away would be 5711 buyers.

8 August 2016, 12:23 AM	#16
Reky "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Real Name: Henry Location: Singapore Watch: 5712/1A Posts: 33	Any pictures of the movement?

8 August 2016, 12:31 AM	#17
goog53 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Mike G Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex-Patek-AP Posts: 3,057	Not a bad piece and I am not a flipper but in my decision I would have to factor in resale and VC just does not have the demand like other high end brands so it would be an easy pass for me. The perpetual is cool but damn expensive

8 August 2016, 01:49 AM	#20
willski "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Will Location: New York Posts: 500	I like the new overseas collection and think VC are going in the right direction. As mentioned, i think the new ultra thin is really quite pricey...although to be fair on same level as 5711R and 16202OR. My favorite is the world time actually... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

8 August 2016, 02:22 AM	#22
cervantes "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Jay Location: East and West Posts: 1,894	Don't love it though it seems very well-made. Vacheron used the same hands for the three handers (both ultra-thin and regular model) and the chronograph model. The hands are too long on the three-hand models, they go past the markers. Just a strange design decision. I also don't love the idea of a watch built around a theme of the brands logo - the maltese cross. Just an uninspired design to me. It would be like if Patek designed a sports watch around the Calatrava cross.

8 August 2016, 03:01 AM	#23
mps354 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: CT Posts: 8,971	I'm not a huge fan of that vacheron. But, I would love it if my 5711 could go from bracelet to rubber to leather with that quick change system it has

8 August 2016, 03:28 AM	#25
brmeyers "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Bryant Location: Florida Watch: ...Your Thoughts Posts: 2,171	VC is nice, I really tried to get into it, but the design aesthetic just doesn't do it for me. Doesn't compare in my opinion. 5711 clear winner PM or not.

8 August 2016, 04:36 AM	#27
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,856	I just don't love the VC aesthetic. Never will.

8 August 2016, 05:18 AM	#28
martinr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: California Posts: 3,099	Just another watch in my opinion, nothing special except the price.

8 August 2016, 06:11 AM	#29
RUK "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Ruk Location: .ie Watch: 5711,Sub,Daytona,P Posts: 1,232	200% of the price of a 5711 now and may be .75% of the price of a 5711 in 5 years? Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk __________________ 'The best watch out there is the one you like the most'

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