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Andre2499 · 18 September 2016, 09:00 PM

Hi guys

Nice to join you, I am Andrea, italian based in London

It has been a lot of time I have thought of buying a Patek Chrono and I am finally ready to do it

My first choice would be the 5970 (either a G or a P) but, given the attractive second market price of the 5270 I was also recently looking into it..

Aesthetically wise I would go for the 5970.. From an investment point of view I am excited about the 5270's first in house movement and think that sooner or later it will recover in value.. I heard that maybe at Baselworld next year also the P version will come out

I am aware that you had a lot of similar discussions in the past but I would like to hear your updated thoughts given also today's prices and new models

Thank you all and have a great Sunday

Willygallardo · 24 September 2016, 01:19 AM

5970P all the way.
5270 dial too much going on for me imo

Fensterdub · 24 September 2016, 01:28 AM

5970. I'm picking mine up on Monday week, cannot wait. Absolute grail watch.

For me, it really is as good as it gets. That Lemania movement pips it for me. The proportions are completely perfect in every respect.

I honestly can't say enough about the 5970. The other piece that may be a contender is the 3970. Still for me the 5970 gets it.

lapince · 24 September 2016, 04:12 AM

I prefer the 5270 blue dial to any 5970, but might be worth waiting to see if there will be a 5270P this year, it could be smashing.

AK797 · 24 September 2016, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by lapince

I prefer the 5270 blue dial to any 5970, but might be worth waiting to see if there will be a 5270P this year, it could be smashing.

Same here, the blue 5270 is superb.

Lordofrolex · 24 September 2016, 06:12 AM

5970 is one of the greatest PP ever made imo. Its a true grail watch. Probably will never get it but i know if i do. Ive made it. lol

RussW · 24 September 2016, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Same here, the blue 5270 is superb.

Can't disagree. Took them 3 goes to get it right, but the 5270 is awesome.

thomaspp · 24 September 2016, 01:03 PM

5970

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conkers · 24 September 2016, 01:30 PM

Both!

rolex_addict · 24 September 2016, 01:43 PM

Next year we might see a 5270J; if I were you I would get a 5270g blue dial!

Hamish · 24 September 2016, 02:16 PM

5970

Socal to az · 24 September 2016, 03:26 PM

5270r. Perfect watch. 5970 too small for my wrist.

topcat30093 · 24 September 2016, 04:49 PM

5270R would be my choice

Racerdj · 24 September 2016, 08:48 PM

I'm biased, but this one!

Finkalot · 25 September 2016, 01:22 AM

5270g in white dial.

At that price point I'd want to get a brand new watch from an AD but that's my personal preference.

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cervantes · 25 September 2016, 04:00 AM

5970

Fiery · 26 September 2016, 02:18 AM

I'd try to find a mint condition 1st Series white dial 5270G:

Fensterdub · 27 September 2016, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racerdj

I'm biased, but this one!

It is so beautiful, congrats on having such a stunner in your collection! Do you leave the chrono running all the time?

Racerdj · 28 September 2016, 08:31 AM

No on the 5270. After talking with a Patek watch maker in an event last February in Naples, he advised not to leave it running. With that being said, he said my 5980 1R was designed to leave it running.

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Originally Posted by Fensterdub

It is so beautiful, congrats on having such a stunner in your collection! Do you leave the chrono running all the time?

masyv6 · 28 September 2016, 11:57 AM

5970!

lapince · 28 September 2016, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lordofrolex

5970 is one of the greatest PP ever made imo. Its a true grail watch. Probably will never get it but i know if i do. Ive made it. lol

Sell your house, car, other watches, take your kids' college fund, and go ahead, see easy, you've made it

lapince · 28 September 2016, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by conkers

Both!

Lol. Roger for most here even one is something they may never get, not even talking about 1 and 3, that was a really crazy incoming, couldn't believe it to be honest

conkers · 28 September 2016, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lapince

Lol. Roger for most here even one is something they may never get, not even talking about 1 and 3, that was a really crazy incoming, couldn't believe it to be honest

5970p still my favourite even though 5270 is arguably a slightly better size and fit for me.

murcielago_boy · 29 September 2016, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Willygallardo

5970P all the way.
5270 dial too much going on for me imo

Really?
5970 sub dials and hands for leap year and 24 hour indication make THAT the busier dial. More hands and dials in a smaller size.

5270 is objectively a cleaner piece. At a loss to understand your view.

cervantes · 30 September 2016, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by murcielago_boy

Really?
5970 sub dials and hands for leap year and 24 hour indication make THAT the busier dial. More hands and dials in a smaller size.

5270 is objectively a cleaner piece. At a loss to understand your view.

Look closely at the dial of the 5270. The Tach is busier than the 5970. The numbers in the sub-dials are coarser. The new circular apertures along with the sub dials below the centre axis makes the dial appear bottom heavy (along with the lack of full indices in the bottom half, unlike the 5970). And the moon phase is smaller (it's ends don't extend downwards like a standard Patek moon phase). This was done to try and lessen the downwardness of the dial. To me there is no comparison if we're talking dial design. The 5970 is more coherent and pleasing to the eye.

lapince · 30 September 2016, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murcielago_boy

Really?
5970 sub dials and hands for leap year and 24 hour indication make THAT the busier dial. More hands and dials in a smaller size.

5270 is objectively a cleaner piece. At a loss to understand your view.

Agree totally, I prefer the 5270'dial, and the markers for year and day/night

WatchKit · 30 September 2016, 05:18 AM

5970

AckAck · 30 September 2016, 05:33 AM

5970p

Fensterdub · 1 October 2016, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racerdj

No on the 5270. After talking with a Patek watch maker in an event last February in Naples, he advised not to leave it running. With that being said, he said my 5980 1R was designed to leave it running.

That's interesting! I wonder is it to do with the fact that the 5980 is a fly back chrono. I'm picking up my 5970 on Monday so I'll assume the same advice stands as per your 5270.

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conkers · 1 October 2016, 10:13 AM

Why would one want to leave the chrono running? Both models have a running second hand.

18 September 2016, 09:00 PM	#1
Andre2499 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: London Posts: 15	Which Perpetual Calendar Chrono? Hi guys Nice to join you, I am Andrea, italian based in London It has been a lot of time I have thought of buying a Patek Chrono and I am finally ready to do it My first choice would be the 5970 (either a G or a P) but, given the attractive second market price of the 5270 I was also recently looking into it.. Aesthetically wise I would go for the 5970.. From an investment point of view I am excited about the 5270's first in house movement and think that sooner or later it will recover in value.. I heard that maybe at Baselworld next year also the P version will come out I am aware that you had a lot of similar discussions in the past but I would like to hear your updated thoughts given also today's prices and new models Thank you all and have a great Sunday

24 September 2016, 01:28 AM	#3
Fensterdub "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Real Name: Paul Location: Spain/UK Watch: Patek Posts: 457	5970. I'm picking mine up on Monday week, cannot wait. Absolute grail watch. For me, it really is as good as it gets. That Lemania movement pips it for me. The proportions are completely perfect in every respect. I honestly can't say enough about the 5970. The other piece that may be a contender is the 3970. Still for me the 5970 gets it. __________________ Patek 5970r, Breguet Marine Chrono 5827 IWC Big Pilot Chronograph IW378003 Rolex Skydweller 336934 Rolex GMT-Master II 126715CHNR Franck Müller Reference 8080 CC AT VAL

24 September 2016, 06:12 AM	#6
Lordofrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Brandon Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Yes Please! Posts: 6,690	5970 is one of the greatest PP ever made imo. Its a true grail watch. Probably will never get it but i know if i do. Ive made it. lol __________________ Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Panerai PAM 359 Audemars Piguet RO 15300OR Follow me on Instagram: @b_jakobovich

24 September 2016, 01:03 PM	#8
thomaspp "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 11,136	5970 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Instagram: @watches_anonymous

24 September 2016, 04:49 PM	#13
topcat30093 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: England Posts: 5,425	5270R would be my choice __________________

24 September 2016, 01:19 AM	#2
Willygallardo "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: Willy Location: Montreal Watch: AP's - Rolex Posts: 972	5970P all the way. 5270 dial too much going on for me imo

24 September 2016, 04:12 AM	#4
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	I prefer the 5270 blue dial to any 5970, but might be worth waiting to see if there will be a 5270P this year, it could be smashing.

24 September 2016, 01:30 PM	#9
conkers "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Roger Location: Hong Kong Watch: Too many! Posts: 5,996	Both!

24 September 2016, 01:43 PM	#10
rolex_addict "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: . Posts: 831	Next year we might see a 5270J; if I were you I would get a 5270g blue dial!

24 September 2016, 02:16 PM	#11
Hamish "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Earth Watch: 5575 Posts: 1,674	5970

24 September 2016, 03:26 PM	#12
Socal to az Banned Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Arizona Posts: 791	5270r. Perfect watch. 5970 too small for my wrist.

24 September 2016, 08:48 PM	#14
Racerdj 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Indianapolis Watch: Patek-Philippe Posts: 16,832	I'm biased, but this one! __________________ Rolex and Patek Philippe

25 September 2016, 01:22 AM	#15
Finkalot "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Singapore Watch: Patek 5146G Posts: 235	5270g in white dial. At that price point I'd want to get a brand new watch from an AD but that's my personal preference. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

25 September 2016, 04:00 AM	#16
cervantes "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Real Name: Jay Location: East and West Posts: 1,894	5970

26 September 2016, 02:18 AM	#17
Fiery "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Europe Watch: Sub-C 116610LN Posts: 2,649	I'd try to find a mint condition 1st Series white dial 5270G: __________________ "In an age of obsolescence and gimmickry, this simple classic virtue of a Rolex is indeed a rarity." (Rolex ad from 1974)

28 September 2016, 11:57 AM	#20
masyv6 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: 35000ft Posts: 3,747	5970!

30 September 2016, 05:18 AM	#27
WatchKit "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Gainesville Posts: 75	5970

30 September 2016, 05:33 AM	#28
AckAck "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: US Watch: Patek 5204P Posts: 485	5970p

1 October 2016, 10:13 AM	#30
conkers "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Roger Location: Hong Kong Watch: Too many! Posts: 5,996	Why would one want to leave the chrono running? Both models have a running second hand.

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