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Old 5 August 2016, 06:32 AM   #31
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Ownership aside, the experience I've had with Ball was positive. The only exception was Ball wouldn't allow my CW21 watchmaker order parts...
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Old 5 August 2016, 06:33 AM   #32
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agreed.
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Old 5 August 2016, 09:52 AM   #33
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Ball may have been owned by Americans, but it's now based in Switzerland. Backed by a group out of HK if I remember correctly.
It is American owned today as well.
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Old 9 August 2016, 06:22 AM   #34
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It is American owned today as well.
Ball Watch USA is US Company that is a distributor of Ball watches. It does not manufacture watches. Interestingly the source for this indicates that a Jeff P Hess is a managing member of the company.

Ball Watch SA formed in 2005 is HQ'd in Switzerland, and manufactures the watches that are currently being marketed s Ball.

Wouldn't this be somewhat like saying that since Rolex USA exists, Rolex is therefore a US brand?
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Old 9 August 2016, 10:45 AM   #35
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Our watches are made in LA Chaux de Fonds at a factory within a stones throw from Cartier, Bulgari, Corum. Tag, NArdin, Breitling and other factories.

When we go to lunch in this tiny town, we are always told to keep our conversation very low since the entire town is made up of friendly competitors.

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Old 9 August 2016, 11:49 AM   #36
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Jeff - can you let us know why Ball Watch parts aren't able to be bought by independent certified watchmakers?
I've been quite please with the 3 Ball models I've owned over the years.
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Old 10 August 2016, 12:50 AM   #37
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Yes. There are several reasons:

1. My agreement with my Swiss Partners not to allow it.
2. The vagaries of strict laws on Tritium. (By law, we must track these "Sealed source" watches via serial number. And we must keep tritium watches behind two locked doors. This may seem archaic but this is the law.)
3. Even the best watchmakers seem to mess up the tritium dials, causing us to eventually have to fix them anyway.
4. Most importantly, my Swiss partners are very exacting about the amount of parts we get and how we get them and what watch they went into. Exacting efficientness.
5. We can barely get enough spare parts for ourselves. If the pipeline size increases we would consider it.

Thanks for asking and thanks for the kind words on this thread.

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Old 10 August 2016, 01:44 AM   #38
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Appreciate that info and makes perfect sense. I had not thought about the tritium risks.

Anyone who hasn't seen the terrific lume on a Ball Watch is missing something terrific.


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Old 13 October 2016, 04:15 AM   #39
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I have a ball GMT for which has barely 1/10th the glow noticed on some of the pictures posted. Is there a way...any tips.... to get it to glow more or does it warrant a trip to Ball service center. The timepiece is barely 2 years old and I wonder if the T25 tubes have already died out on me....any help would be appreciated.

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Old 13 October 2016, 04:54 AM   #40
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Pictures are misleading – they can be manipulated in post processing or taken at a longer exposure, thereby letting more light fall on the sensor, at the expense of noise…although certain cameras are clean up to around ISO800-1600.
Tritium tubes are not as bright as Superluminova, but then they don’t fade – they’re a steady output for 10-12 years, before they drop to half-brightness.
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Old 28 October 2016, 01:38 AM   #41
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Thanks for the info.

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Old 12 December 2016, 10:54 PM   #42
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Tritium tubes are not as bright as Superluminova, but then they don’t fade – they’re a steady output for 10-12 years, before they drop to half-brightness.
Funny, because right now I'm re-reading a Tom Clancy novel that talks about how tritium is used in atomic bombs to multiply the yield. So I guess that "half-brightness" is related to the half-life of that radioactive material.

Think about that the next time you looks to see what time it is.

Most Ball watches are too large for me, but I do like them and am considering them for my next non-Rolex purchase.
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Old 8 October 2018, 08:57 AM   #43
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That was good to hear.

My experience with Ball was somewhat different. It never kept time since the day I bought it from JR watches in Melbourne. It has also stopped working twice since I had it.
I tried to send it back for repairs, and they just refused to help. I contacted the manufacturer, and they also refused, even under warranty.
Needless to say, it has been in for repairs 3 times now, and it is still fast by 1.5 minutes per month.

It really wasn't worth the money.
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That was good to hear.



My experience with Ball was somewhat different. It never kept time since the day I bought it from JR watches in Melbourne. It has also stopped working twice since I had it.

I tried to send it back for repairs, and they just refused to help. I contacted the manufacturer, and they also refused, even under warranty.

Needless to say, it has been in for repairs 3 times now, and it is still fast by 1.5 minutes per month.



It really wasn't worth the money.


I didn’t realize Ball had such issues - what kind of repairs were needed?
Also, 90 second fast per month, or +3 per day seems pretty good, within COSC standards and approaching Rolex.


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