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Old 2 December 2018, 01:01 AM   #91
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Ah, you might qualify in the camp that someone earlier called "too much money to (not) GAF". Not that you don't care, and it wouldn't upset you to lose a watch, but it wouldn't devastate you*.



I believe you also move a lot of watches through your collection, so insuring your watches might also be an unreasonable burden to you? I don't insure my cheaper watches, but I do have my priciest ones insured, and I don't plan to move those.



*I'm the same way on extended warranty add ons on electronics or appliances--I self-insure, and will just pay out of my own savings if something needs to be replaced after initial warranty period.


Yeah I guess it all comes down to risk tolerance.
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Old 5 December 2018, 03:36 AM   #92
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My watch has a been recovered by the SFPD! More details to come as I get them but I'm over the moon right now and my faith in humanity has been restored a little bit.

I am beyond grateful that the authorities were persistent in their efforts to recover my watch - more to come!
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Old 5 December 2018, 03:38 AM   #93
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Old 5 December 2018, 03:41 AM   #94
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My watch has a been recovered by the SFPD! More details to come as I get them but I'm over the moon right now and my faith in humanity has been restored a little bit.

I am beyond grateful that the authorities were persistent in their efforts to recover my watch - more to come!
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Old 5 December 2018, 03:44 AM   #95
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My watch has a been recovered by the SFPD! More details to come as I get them but I'm over the moon right now and my faith in humanity has been restored a little bit.

I am beyond grateful that the authorities were persistent in their efforts to recover my watch - more to come!
Awesome! Hope condition is the same you left it in. Did they say how it was recovered?


Edit. Just read it was run over etc. hope it’s not too bad
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Old 5 December 2018, 04:07 AM   #96
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Holy....!!!! That’s awesome. Congrats
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Old 5 December 2018, 04:40 AM   #97
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Great news! Happy for you. Now you'll have a story to go with the watch. Post pics when you get it back!
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Old 5 December 2018, 04:47 AM   #98
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Awesome. Fingers crossed that your watch is in good condition!
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Old 5 December 2018, 05:01 AM   #99
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Wow! That's great news.

Post some pics when you have it back in your hands.
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Old 5 December 2018, 05:34 AM   #100
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Wow!!! Congrats!!! So happy for you!
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Old 5 December 2018, 05:41 AM   #101
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WHOAAA! Looking forward to hearing what you can share. Congrats! :)
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Old 5 December 2018, 05:59 AM   #102
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Awesome news !!! This is such an unexpectedly positive turn of events.

Definitely some pics of the lucky watch when you have it !
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Old 5 December 2018, 06:06 AM   #103
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Wow, will be interresting to we a RO that has been ran over by cars. Hope you get a replacement by the insurance company.
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Old 5 December 2018, 06:16 AM   #104
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Condition is TBD as I haven't gotten my hands on it yet...police said it appears to be "ticking" but that the case and bracelet appear to have sustained some minor damage - whether its a ding/scratch/scrape remains to be seen but they confirmed the glass on both sides was not cracked. As soon as I get the watch back, I'm sending it straight to AP for inspection and repairs - whatever it takes to restore the watch to it's original working order and condition.

My CC insures me up to $10K for replacement or repair so praying that whatever the damages are, they're minor and easily replaced - I'm more concerned about the movement and case than the bracelet for obvious reasons as I wouldn't watch to have the watch re-cased but also hope the damage isn't so bad that it cannot be buffed out. Whether or not any potential impact damaged the movement will also have to be determined later.

The saving grace is that the watch case was fairly robust and padded - I also covered the watch in bubble wrap inside the case. I'll be curious to see if any of the damages are a result of the thief wearing and banging it around carelessly - whether or not I'll be able to prove that and pursue some kind of restitution from him is another story but I will be pursuing every legal option at my disposal.

Fingers remain crossed but I am just over the moon that my watch is recovered and am anxiously awaiting the results of the investigation as an arrest has been made.
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Old 5 December 2018, 06:23 AM   #105
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Great news! Happy for you. Now you'll have a story to go with the watch. Post pics when you get it back!
I have been so down and out over the situation that I was contemplating selling the watch if it was ever recovered but now I know that just isn't an option. I went through so much to be able to acquire this watch and have gone through all of this effort to recover it - it's my first and only AP and with a story like this, will be passed down to my first born. It'll be one hell of a story to boot!

I'm still in shock and disbelief!
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Old 5 December 2018, 06:50 AM   #106
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Condition is TBD as I haven't gotten my hands on it yet...police said it appears to be "ticking" but that the case and bracelet appear to have sustained some minor damage - whether its a ding/scratch/scrape remains to be seen but they confirmed the glass on both sides was not cracked. As soon as I get the watch back, I'm sending it straight to AP for inspection and repairs - whatever it takes to restore the watch to it's original working order and condition.

My CC insures me up to $10K for replacement or repair so praying that whatever the damages are, they're minor and easily replaced - I'm more concerned about the movement and case than the bracelet for obvious reasons as I wouldn't watch to have the watch re-cased but also hope the damage isn't so bad that it cannot be buffed out. Whether or not any potential impact damaged the movement will also have to be determined later.

The saving grace is that the watch case was fairly robust and padded - I also covered the watch in bubble wrap inside the case. I'll be curious to see if any of the damages are a result of the thief wearing and banging it around carelessly - whether or not I'll be able to prove that and pursue some kind of restitution from him is another story but I will be pursuing every legal option at my disposal.

Fingers remain crossed but I am just over the moon that my watch is recovered and am anxiously awaiting the results of the investigation as an arrest has been made.
An arrest has been made? Is it against the law to find a watch in the street and keep it?

Surprised to hear that. Fill us in on the details when you get them! And congratulations!
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Old 5 December 2018, 07:05 AM   #107
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An arrest has been made? Is it against the law to find a watch in the street and keep it?

Surprised to hear that. Fill us in on the details when you get them! And congratulations!
It's more complicated and I don't have all of the details but I'll share more when I'm able.

Common law defines lost property as personal property that was unintentionally left by its true owner. For example, a wallet that falls out of someone's pocket is lost.

For reference:

"At common law, a person who found lost personal property could keep it until and unless the original owner comes forward. This rule applied to people who discovered lost property in public areas, as well as to people who discovered lost property on their property.

Modern Interpretations:

Many jurisdictions have statutes that modify the common law's treatment of lost property. Typically, these statutes require lost personal property to be turned over to a government official, and that if the property is not claimed within a set period of time, it goes to the finder, and the original owner's rights to the property are terminated."

source: https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/lost_property
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Old 5 December 2018, 07:21 AM   #108
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Old 5 December 2018, 07:38 AM   #109
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Have been monitoring your story ... and so happy to hear the great news! Hope all goes smoothly from here.
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Old 5 December 2018, 08:06 AM   #110
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Old 5 December 2018, 08:18 AM   #111
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Wow ! Happy for you.


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Old 5 December 2018, 09:05 AM   #112
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Holy smokes! That is incredible news, this is a great story! Please do not forget all the juicy details, maybe something we could learn from this.
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Old 5 December 2018, 09:24 AM   #113
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WOW. Very happy for you.
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Old 5 December 2018, 10:28 AM   #114
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Happy to hear that. Honestly, if the damage is minor, I'd keep it "as-is"; what a great story. As a watch dude, I'd definitely report any watch I'd find, esp AP, to local authorities/enthusiasts/forums.
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Old 5 December 2018, 12:00 PM   #115
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Interesting turn of events, was curious on the watch condition since the 15400 bracelet doesn’t really collapse under itself and usually retains its shape
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Old 5 December 2018, 12:22 PM   #116
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It's more complicated and I don't have all of the details but I'll share more when I'm able.



Common law defines lost property as personal property that was unintentionally left by its true owner. For example, a wallet that falls out of someone's pocket is lost.



For reference:



"At common law, a person who found lost personal property could keep it until and unless the original owner comes forward. This rule applied to people who discovered lost property in public areas, as well as to people who discovered lost property on their property.



Modern Interpretations:



Many jurisdictions have statutes that modify the common law's treatment of lost property. Typically, these statutes require lost personal property to be turned over to a government official, and that if the property is not claimed within a set period of time, it goes to the finder, and the original owner's rights to the property are terminated."



source: https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/lost_property


This is my understanding of the law too - there is no “finders, keepers” right.

Same goes for something like a bank transfer received in error etc. no legal right to keep it.

My usual policy is to give anything found to charity if there is no way of knowing who the owner is (i.e. a dropped £5 note with no idea who dropped it) but obviously finding something like that of value & where the owner can be traced, it would need to go to the relevant authorities.
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Old 5 December 2018, 12:33 PM   #117
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An arrest has been made? Is it against the law to find a watch in the street and keep it?

Surprised to hear that. Fill us in on the details when you get them! And congratulations!
Feel the same.

Or maybe the "keeper" sighted OP dropped his watch out of his pocket whole time but kept silence?

Its a miracle to recover your watch, OP.
Big congrats.
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Old 5 December 2018, 12:42 PM   #118
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A lesson I learned long time ago...

Was in line to buy lunch. It was my first real job after college, I made okay money for that stage in my life, but nothing to brag about. As I was tooling around a coffee stand, I saw a nice $20 bill. So I picked it up, and a few of my co-workers noticed and stated "finders keepers" as the rule. It did not settle well with me, so I brought it to the cashier and said, "look, here is a twenty I found." The woman looked at me rather oddly, but did not say anything except for "I'll put in aside in case if somebody comes for it, but I doubt..."

Fast forward 5 minutes and as I was eating I saw a janitor come up to the stand stating that he lost his lunch money, $20 for 2 days. The lady smiled and gave him the twenty.
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Old 5 December 2018, 03:34 PM   #119
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Interesting turn of events, was curious on the watch condition since the 15400 bracelet doesn’t really collapse under itself and usually retains its shape
Watch was in a case secured around a pillow so it wouldn’t be able to “collapse” ionto itself. I’m hoping this afforded it the extra protection that saved it from being damaged catastrophically.
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Old 5 December 2018, 03:39 PM   #120
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Happy to hear that. Honestly, if the damage is minor, I'd keep it "as-is"; what a great story. As a watch dude, I'd definitely report any watch I'd find, esp AP, to local authorities/enthusiasts/forums.
We’ll see what shape it’s in - what sucks is that the watch was absolutely pristine before all of this so the thought of wearing it with any damage makes me cringe - especially being only 3 weeks old. But I was thinking I’d have AP make whatever necessary repairs to restore the watch and ask them to return the damaged pieces to me for posterity.
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