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16 January 2019, 11:07 PM | #1 |
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How many winds are needed to start fully stopped Rolex
I recently purchased a 2005 Explorer 16570. Fully wound it left in the drawer it lasts between 47 and 48 hours and loses about 2 seconds for this period. The thing which is concerning me is starting it by winding after it has fully stopped. It will need between 8 and 12 winds to start. I apologise if this is a stupid question but this is my first Rolex and I can only compare to my other watches which start after a half turn of the crown. Is it normal or I should consider it a “lazy start”. Please advise.
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16 January 2019, 11:25 PM | #3 |
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That's not lazy at all...I've got a few watches much newer that take more turns to get going.
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The manual that came with my new SubC says 25 turns from a dead stop.
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16 January 2019, 11:32 PM | #5 |
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I only wear my BLNR on the weekend, so it's fully stopped by Saturday when I put it on. It usually takes around 30 turns before it starts moving. Then I give it another 10 or so just for good measure!
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16 January 2019, 11:32 PM | #6 |
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20-30 full turns for me.
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16 January 2019, 11:37 PM | #7 |
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Thank you, all for fast comments and helping me confirm my watch is OK! Again, I apologise if this was stupid question but I wasn’t able to find any information about this.
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My YM and Millgauss take between 18-20 turns of the crown to start the second hand moving.
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17 January 2019, 01:02 AM | #9 |
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Zero winds. Pick it up and give it a small shake - at least my automatics.
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17 January 2019, 10:37 AM | #11 |
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I go 10 then set the date then another 10
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17 January 2019, 10:48 AM | #13 |
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25 for me and according to SubC manual
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17 January 2019, 10:51 AM | #14 |
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Zero winds, just move it around a bit and it should start.
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17 January 2019, 10:55 AM | #15 |
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All normal.
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17 January 2019, 11:40 AM | #16 |
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40 to 50 full turns to fully wind
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17 January 2019, 11:57 AM | #17 |
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My GMT BLNR take approx 20 turns to start up.
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17 January 2019, 12:31 PM | #18 |
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BLNR. takes 13 to start ticking
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17 January 2019, 12:34 PM | #19 |
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My BLNR is about 20+ full turns to start ticking
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I do 50 from a dead stop on all my Rolexes.
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17 January 2019, 08:24 PM | #22 |
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No number. Just turn away until it starts.
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17 January 2019, 10:22 PM | #23 |
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SubC - 10 turns to start ticking.
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17 January 2019, 11:15 PM | #24 |
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Make sure they are full winds. I was getting only 36 hour power reserve. I got nervous and looked at how I was spinning the crown to wind it. I was averaging 3/4 of a wind. I did the math and it worked out to roughly 36 hours of reserve. I now know my winds are 3/4 and I deal with it accordingly.
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Winds for 216570 (G serial, 2011)
I finally got around to verifying mine just today, from a dead stop. I counted number of turns (based on the "Crown" orientation on the crown). Almost exactly 25 full turns before it started ticking. Also, I now realize that my normal "turns" are not full turns, probably 3/4 at best. Normally when starting from a stop, I had to turn it 30-40 personalized "turns", i.e., not full.
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After my power reserve tests, I always note how many turns to start the movement. It does vary between watch to watch even with the same movement. Looking over my time keeping notes of a dozen Rolex models it seems that 15 to 25 winds is when the movement comes alive from a dead stop.
I find it a very interesting and what makes each watch its own unique piece.
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31 January 2022, 02:48 PM | #29 |
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What I’ve never understood with Rolex watches is that my beater 100$ Seiko SKX watches start ticking as soon as they picked up or with a single flick of the wrist, whereas a Rolex needs winding. Seiko 41h power reserve Most pre 2000 Rolex 40h power reserve. No rolex would start ticking with such minimal wrist movement as the seiko does.
Why? Any watchmakers in our midst to unravel the enigma?
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When starting auto watches from zero PR I don’t give then more than a few turns then a swirl to start if needed then I hack the second hand on 12 and set the minute.
Why would I fully wind an auto watch, you always say that is what your wrist is for Peter? The rotor will fully wind my watch during the day. The number of winds required to start a watch depends on the position the escapement stopped at but a twist of the case will start it up after a few winds.
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