Ok - It's time

[mongrelnomoad]

Originally Posted by thomaspp

And collectible cars are In the shitter. It’s painfully obvious that the peak for cars and watches came and went some months ago


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Cars were never collectible. None bar a few, anyway. Porsche GT1? Sure. Auto Union Type D? Of course.

Any recent, mass-produced Ferrari or Porsche? Nuhuh...

Cars, watches, it was all the same systemic rush to accumulate assets - any assets! - while money was cheap and everyone was searching for on-paper yield.

But, what comes up must come down. Somebody smarter than me said that. Something about an apple.

[thomaspp]

Originally Posted by mongrelnomoad

Cars were never collectible. None bar a few, anyway. Porsche GT1? Sure. Auto Union Type D? Of course.



Any recent, mass-produced Ferrari or Porsche? Nuhuh...



Cars, watches, it was all the same systemic rush to accumulate assets - any assets! - while money was cheap and everyone was searching for on-paper yield.



But, what comes up must come down. Somebody smarter than me said that. Something about an apple.

Lol yeah... I hear you


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[Bearxj86]

Originally Posted by jd57

I am far from a Faux News type, but latest molecular analysis of the virus RNA sequence suggests recombination (gene splicing) between two different coronaviruses that enhances human infectivity.
This was not the result of any "wet market" event. And the Chinese biowarfare facility was right next door... Not saying this was an attack (though not impossible) but perhaps a really unfortunate safety breach.

Can you elaborate on this? I do understand that the only Level 4 facility in all of China was in Wuhan, but not sure what you mean by the gene splicing. Can it do it again?

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by bearxj86

Can you elaborate on this? I do understand that the only Level 4 facility in all of China was in Wuhan, but not sure what you mean by the gene splicing. Can it do it again?

Rumor was this was SARS +MERS + AIDS

It’s a rumor that’s been going around since the beginning

[mongrelnomoad]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

Rumor was this was SARS +MERS + AIDS

It’s a rumor that’s been going around since the beginning

Just smacks of conspiracy theories.

Come on, we all know Corona is caused by 5G

[jd57]

Originally Posted by bearxj86

Can you elaborate on this? I do understand that the only Level 4 facility in all of China was in Wuhan, but not sure what you mean by the gene splicing. Can it do it again?

Wuhon facility has P4 but a web discussion of Coronavirus there being done in P2 has been taken down from a Chinese site.

The other thing - the human COvid19 virus is nearly identical with a bat Coronavirus except for one gene, which is near identical with a Pangolin Coronavirus gene. This gene encodes the spike protein on the virus coat that plays a critical role in infectivity. This hybrid virus supposedly more readily infects human cells. The type of thing germ warfare labs work on - I am sure our DoD labs do the same type of things. Random recombination not likely to create this hybrid - genetic engineering in a lab is more likely where it comes from.

Not AIDS, not SARS, can’t state unequivocally this was man made but suspicious.

[mongrelnomoad]

Oh come on.

Stop with the conspiracies.

[jd57]

Not worth arguing about - but remember when it was first identified there was some mention it came from Bats and other reports it came from Pangolins? This was in major media, not right wing web sites. The link below is from the bulletin of atomic scientists - not a right wing publication by any means. Won’t discuss further.

https://thebulletin.org/2020/03/expe...-research-lab/

[outdoors_guy]

How did this post get started again?

I don’t think there is anyway to confidently say that this virus did not come from a lab, but RNA viruses often recombine in nature.

[pam66]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

Rumor was this was SARS +MERS + AIDS

It’s a rumor that’s been going around since the beginning

my virologist friends tell me that is nonsense. they think covid19 comes from bats, via pangolins to humans, after one or two typical mutations. wild animals have less and less space to roam, they tightly cohabitant with humans in china and given the human pressure these things happen and will happen more and more.

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by pam66

my virologist friends tell me that is nonsense. they think covid19 comes from bats, via pangolins to humans, after one or two typical mutations. wild animals have less and less space to roam, they tightly cohabitant with humans in china and given the human pressure these things happen and will happen more and more.

Donkeys next...great

[zahain]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

Donkeys next...great

Fatty i am looking to buy my first stock, what do you suggest? (purely for fun & boredom) I am only looking for a short term investment that would gain me about $30 for a big mac meal.

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by zahain

Fatty i am looking to buy my first stock, what do you suggest? (purely for fun & boredom) I am only looking for a short term investment that would gain me about $30 for a big mac meal.

Is playboy still publically traded? Mercedes was talking about it

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by mongrelnomoad

Oh come on.

Stop with the conspiracies.

Originally Posted by pam66

my virologist friends tell me that is nonsense. they think covid19 comes from bats, via pangolins to humans, after one or two typical mutations. wild animals have less and less space to roam, they tightly cohabitant with humans in china and given the human pressure these things happen and will happen more and more.

I completely agree that conspiracy theories can get out of hand, but, if you apply Occam's razor to this scenario, when factoring in the fact that humans have engaged in bio-warfare for a long time, and have probably invested more money into bio-warfare than into vaccine research for more common viruses (look at how long it took to come up with an HPV vaccine), it's not farfetched to say this was a bio-weapons project gone slightly wrong.

In fact, I would argue that using Occam's razor, the "bio-weapon that accidentally leaked" explanation is more likely than a Bat-->Pangolin-->Human that randomly/spontaneously (via mutation) was dramatically more virulent to humans than SARS-CoV-1 and MERS-CoV.

We only dismiss the bio-weapon theory because it's more frightening and our subconscious doesn't like that.

What I wonder is: Why would anyone invent a new bio-weapon without inventing the antidote (i.e., vaccine) first? It's a lot like test-first software development: write the test cases first, then write the code.

[yoast]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

What I wonder is: Why would anyone invent a new bio-weapon without inventing the antidote (i.e., vaccine) first? It's a lot like test-first software development: write the test cases first, then write the code.

They will have a vaccine. They are waiting for maximum infection yield for release and maximise profits!

[dauster]

Why is fat ninja banned again ?

[mongrelnomoad]

Occam’s Razor dictates that nature’s done what nature’s been doing for billions of years.

Stop.

[mongrelnomoad]

Originally Posted by dauster

Why is fat ninja banned again ?

Oh no, he hasn’t been, has he?

[A971]

Moving back on topic and away from Zero Hedge...

Prices here in japan haven’t moved all that much.

For those like myself that are still looking to buy, I haven’t seen any screaming fire sales yet. Maybe I’m looking in the wrong places?


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[mongrelnomoad]

Originally Posted by A971

Moving back on topic and away from Zero Hedge...

Prices here in japan haven’t moved all that much.

For those like myself that are still looking to buy, I haven’t seen any screaming fire sales yet. Maybe I’m looking in the wrong places?


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Same. Time I suppose.

[ts3]

Originally Posted by mongrelnomoad

Same. Time I suppose.

Probably. At least the 5711 blue seems to be still doing ok. EWC had listed an unworn 2020 piece for USD 60k days ago and it sold in no time (for whatever price, but I doubt it was much less).

[mongrelnomoad]

Originally Posted by ts3

Probably. At least the 5711 blue seems to be still doing ok. EWC had listed an unworn 2020 piece for USD 60k days ago and it sold in no time (for whatever price, but I doubt it was much less).

I'd be very surprised if anyone's buying at 60K in this market.

[LJubel328]

Originally Posted by mongrelnomoad

I'd be very surprised if anyone's buying at 60K in this market.

+1

I spoke to EWC on some "hot" models in the last two weeks and they came down significantly off their list price

[dauster]

Originally Posted by LJubel328

+1

I spoke to EWC on some "hot" models in the last two weeks and they came down significantly off their list price

do you have any more specifics? like model and asking price

[ts3]

Originally Posted by mongrelnomoad

I'd be very surprised if anyone's buying at 60K in this market.

All I can say is that they listed a brand new 2020 5711 blue early this week at 60k and it was sold 1 or 2 days later. Some other "hot" models haven't sold in many weeks and I am sure they are flexible there but why come down a lot after 1 or 2 days?

[LJubel328]

Originally Posted by ts3

All I can say is that they listed a brand new 2020 5711 blue early this week at 60k and it was sold 1 or 2 days later. Some other "hot" models haven't sold in many weeks and I am sure they are flexible there but why come down a lot after 1 or 2 days?

I am curious what it actually sold for because there are a few 5711s online in the low to mid 50s that are sitting.

[mongrelnomoad]

Originally Posted by ts3

All I can say is that they listed a brand new 2020 5711 blue early this week at 60k and it was sold 1 or 2 days later. Some other "hot" models haven't sold in many weeks and I am sure they are flexible there but why come down a lot after 1 or 2 days?

Sold, or “sold”?

[ts3]

Originally Posted by LJubel328

I am curious what it actually sold for because there are a few 5711s online in the low to mid 50s that are sitting.

Unworn 2020 w the hacking movement some people prefer?

[ts3]

Originally Posted by mongrelnomoad

Sold, or “sold”?

Moved from newly listed "in stock for USD 60k" to "on hold" and then "recently sold" within 1 or 2 days total. Not sure what you are suggesting... You dealt w them?

[S``]

Originally Posted by ts3

Unworn 2020 w the hacking movement some people prefer?

Was listed with a 324SC, possible typo though