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Old 5 April 2020, 06:53 AM   #61
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A few from my wishlist with a target price
- 5164: $38k
- 5167: $20k
- 5960p: $34k
- 5212 MSRP

Also keeping an eye out for a reasonable 5270g. One can hope...
just picked up 5960p grey dial with box/archive for 38 flat, lowest I've seen by a long shot... bargain of the century IMO

I bought one 5 years ago for over 60k and at that time it was a deal LOL
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Old 5 April 2020, 06:55 AM   #62
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100%. It’s all hype... the core Rolex will hold up better. Of course lower price point so fall doesn’t hurt as bad
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Old 5 April 2020, 06:56 AM   #63
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It is regrettable but I think many high-end independents will struggle in a slowing economy. Hard to buy an expensive watch that has poor resale value and no guarantee anyone will be around to service and supply parts in the future.


If the market was small pre-corona can only imagine how few buyers there will be now....


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Old 5 April 2020, 07:45 AM   #64
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Old 5 April 2020, 08:06 AM   #65
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100%. It’s all hype... the core Rolex will hold up better. Of course lower price point so fall doesn’t hurt as bad
Greater name recognition, too, which will ultimately decide the size of the market.
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Old 5 April 2020, 08:16 AM   #66
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Time to get that Dufour then... LOL...
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Old 5 April 2020, 08:48 AM   #67
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Jin... listen to your mentor Thomas. No Gronefeld!
Ok ; will bide my time and pick it up 75% off.
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Old 5 April 2020, 09:17 AM   #68
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Ok ; will bide my time and pick it up 75% off.
Oh u were serious? Lol. U do understand what a down market is right?
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Old 5 April 2020, 09:22 AM   #69
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A basically brand new Ferrari 458 (500 miles red on tan) sold for 200k fees included the other day on BaT and a black Mercedes SLS convertible with 7k miles went for 100k!

I don’t even want to imagine where we will be mid summer.
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Old 5 April 2020, 09:53 AM   #70
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A basically brand new Ferrari 458 (500 miles red on tan) sold for 200k fees included the other day on BaT and a black Mercedes SLS convertible with 7k miles went for 100k!



I don’t even want to imagine where we will be mid summer.


And collectible cars are In the shitter. It’s painfully obvious that the peak for cars and watches came and went some months ago


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Old 5 April 2020, 10:36 AM   #71
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Forget market pricing. What are the prices where you will say, I will definitely buy the watch at...go! Again this is YOUR price, screw the market. This is the price where you would take money out of your bank account and pay, cash, and the watches are all new or mint preowned full box, papers.

1) 5711-1A blue - I would say $35k-$40k is where I would pick one up
2) 5711-1A White - MSRP
3) 5167A - MSRP
4) 5164A - (May take hate for this) but MSRP -10%, around $30-$33k
5) 5167R = $30k
6) 5164R = $35k
7) 5170P = $50k
8) 5711R = $55k to $60k (abit above MSRP)
9) 5740G - $90k
10) 5970G/R/J = $90k


Tiffany stamp - Add $5k (no more and no less)

Agree with: (1) 5167 at $20-24k; (2) 5164 at MSRP; or (3) 5726A at MSRP; and (4) 5524 at $30k or sub.


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And collectible cars are In the shitter. It’s painfully obvious that the peak for cars and watches came and went some months ago


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Market cycle Thomas. I think we'll want to see how low these are going to get :)
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Old 5 April 2020, 11:10 AM   #73
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Damn, I may consider re-acquiring the 5170p if it is low 60s.
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Old 5 April 2020, 11:11 AM   #74
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Jin... who sold you that shitty crystal ball? I love ya which is why we can bust your balls, but you made bold predictions on the 5522, 5711 ($100k), 5170P (Back at Retail) that were all wrong. Do you have any stock tips that I can avoid?
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Old 5 April 2020, 12:01 PM   #75
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Jin... who sold you that shitty crystal ball? I love ya which is why we can bust your balls, but you made bold predictions on the 5522, 5711 ($100k), 5170P (Back at Retail) that were all wrong. Do you have any stock tips that I can avoid?
That crystal ball probably predicted:

- TSLA a buy at $900
- Carnival Cruises and Norwegian a buy in February
- AA, UA and Delta a buy right now
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Old 5 April 2020, 12:45 PM   #76
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5711- $25k I hate the fold over clasp. It feels and looks cheap. It seriously needs an upgrade lol

5968A- $35k Of course the MSRP has to be more then AP ROO, the marketing department at PP would lose their minds if it was less lol. For having a rubber strap and being $45k MSRP, silly to pay that IMO.
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Old 5 April 2020, 12:51 PM   #77
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Damn, I may consider re-acquiring the 5170p if it is low 60s.
Lower. Cut it by another 30%
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Old 5 April 2020, 01:59 PM   #78
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Old 5 April 2020, 07:55 PM   #79
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I don't mind the high price a few months ago tbh, I just want the virus to go away.

I miss my life.
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Old 5 April 2020, 10:19 PM   #80
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Ok, I’m in.
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Old 5 April 2020, 10:45 PM   #81
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5968. Retail.

I’m done paying over.
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Old 5 April 2020, 10:46 PM   #82
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I don't mind the high price a few months ago tbh, I just want the virus to go away.

I miss my life.
Agree.

Regardless of the post I just made, if it all just turned back to 6 weeks ago, I’d gladly pay the premium.
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Old 6 April 2020, 02:24 AM   #83
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Me 2 - I prefer pre COVID world - high prices, long waiting lists but lots of cash in the bank and secure revenue ...
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Old 6 April 2020, 05:21 AM   #84
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Jin... who sold you that shitty crystal ball? I love ya which is why we can bust your balls, but you made bold predictions on the 5522, 5711 ($100k), 5170P (Back at Retail) that were all wrong. Do you have any stock tips that I can avoid?
My crystal ball is dinged and cracked. It's no better than anyone's - perhaps worse :O
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Old 6 April 2020, 05:27 AM   #85
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My crystal ball is dinged and cracked. It's no better than anyone's - perhaps worse :O
Mine is pretty good...Lol


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Old 6 April 2020, 05:27 AM   #86
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I don't mind the high price a few months ago tbh, I just want the virus to go away.

I miss my life.

This +1. And a 5167a


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Old 6 April 2020, 01:50 PM   #87
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I'll pay extra so long as the money guarantees that wet markets around the world will be shut down forever so that this doesn't happen again.

Otherwise, I'm strictly a <=MSRP guy.
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I'll pay extra so long as the money guarantees that wet markets around the world will be shut down forever so that this doesn't happen again.

Otherwise, I'm strictly a <=MSRP guy.
Don't count on the "wet markets" being shut down. Have humans ever changed their habits? Just the fact that we are discussing this in 2020 in the midst of the worst global pandemic in 100 years answers the question: no.
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Don't count on the "wet markets" being shut down. Have humans ever changed their habits? Just the fact that we are discussing this in 2020 in the midst of the worst global pandemic in 100 years answers the question: no.
Hmm the country that did two cultural revolutions, curved population growth with a one child policy, and is marching to become the largest economy in the world (50 years after having famine and wide spread extreme poverty) cannot change human behavior, interesting ...
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I am far from a Faux News type, but latest molecular analysis of the virus RNA sequence suggests recombination (gene splicing) between two different coronaviruses that enhances human infectivity.
This was not the result of any "wet market" event. And the Chinese biowarfare facility was right next door... Not saying this was an attack (though not impossible) but perhaps a really unfortunate safety breach.
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