audemars piguet is there a rare piece like the daytona?

[Raul Jack]

Hello im thinking of buying a audemars piguet i wanna start with a hard to find and affordable price audemars piguet something in the ball park of daytona or a patek 5711/1A - NAUTILUS once again thanks for the help and the guidance

[tyler1980]

every single watch AP or Patek makes is more rare than a Daytona. 40k annual production total vs somewhere in the ballpark of a million. Broken down by model and configuration there is virtually no chance that AP makes more of pretty much any single watch than Rolex makes of a Daytona.

So its a matter of scale. There are more rare AP watches relative to other AP watches sure, but comparing rarity to Rolex is not even a comparison worth making. So if it was me i would just find what i like, and buy that.

[rootbeer7]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

every single watch AP or Patek makes is more rare than a Daytona. 40k annual production total vs somewhere in the ballpark of a million. Broken down by model and configuration there is virtually no chance that AP makes more of pretty much any single watch than Rolex makes of a Daytona.

So its a matter of scale. There are more rare AP watches relative to other AP watches sure, but comparing rarity to Rolex is not even a comparison worth making. So if it was me i would just find what i like, and buy that.

Plus the Daytona is definitely not rare. Every Grey in London has at least 2. It’s all about demand.

[SC11]

Rare as in highest demand or lowest production?

If we are comparing in demand pieces of various brands I would put the 15407st and 15202st as the AP equivalent to the Daytona, similair it would be the 5711/12 from PP.

But let’s not forget the annual Rolex production of the SS Daytona will be higher then the total of four models I’ve just listed!

If we are talking rare pieces as in low production there isn’t any modern day Rolex ones, only the vintage pieces as for AP/PP then it would be the likes of the 26579ce, 5250g, 5522a

(picking sports type pieces as we are talking Daytona)

[HL65]

Originally Posted by SC11

Rare as in highest demand or lowest production?

If we are comparing in demand pieces of various brands I would put the 15407st and 15202st as the AP equivalent to the Daytona, similair it would be the 5711/12 from PP.

But let’s not forget the annual Rolex production of the SS Daytona will be higher then the total of four models I’ve just listed!

If we are talking rare pieces as in low production there isn’t any modern day Rolex ones, only the vintage pieces as for AP/PP then it would be the likes of the 26579ce, 5250g, 5522a

(picking sports type pieces as we are talking Daytona)

Yes there is and it sells for $100k plus over MSRP: Rainbow Daytona.

[SC11]

Originally Posted by HL65

Yes there is and it sells for $100k plus over MSRP: Rainbow Daytona.

Yeah granted I’ll give you that but we can agree it’s an anomaly in this modern Rolex era! Not saying that’s a bad thing Rolex are the master of mass produced high end watches but given a small few exceptions they are not rare, exclusive and in demand yes.

Given the context of the OP question I did gear my reply to the typical sports models though so no doubt they’ll be a few others I might of missed off the list.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by HL65

Yes there is and it sells for $100k plus over MSRP: Rainbow Daytona.

It’s actually really nice. I saw one at a Rolex event. I was most impressed with the gem setting and colour selection than anything


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[benlee]

I think just being rare is not sufficient, it has to be desirable, like PP 5711. And hard to get. There are many watches from brands that are produced in very low numbers, even limited edition ones but nobody wants them.

In AP current catalog, the closest to these will be the 15202 Jumbo, the RO Ceramic Perpetual and the 15407ST Openworks.

[benlee]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

It’s actually really nice. I saw one at a Rolex event. I was most impressed with the gem setting and colour selection than anything


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Are you talking about the leopard Daytona?

[walds11]

Originally Posted by benlee

I think just being rare is not sufficient, it has to be desirable, like PP 5711. And hard to get. There are many watches from brands that are produced in very low numbers, even limited edition ones but nobody wants them.

In AP current catalog, the closest to these will be the 15202 Jumbo, the RO Ceramic Perpetual and the 15407ST Openworks.

Don’t forget the 15400ST blue dial, which is boutique exclusive. Also, the 15450ST blue dial is produced in very low numbers. Anything blue dial...

[ragsk]

When talking consistent demand vs production, there are very few watches that can compete with Rolex Daytona SS. That watch has had long waiting lists and well over MSRP pricing for many many years now. Maybe 15-20 years or more.

Nothing from AP or PP can compete with that sort of history.

[lt114]

I’d take a look at the jumbo.

[Betta01]

Hi OP: if you are talking about value retention and appreciation..I dun think there so any watch in AP modern line up that compares to a Daytona.
For AP, buy it because you like it..it's not gonna perform like a daytona in terms of $$ value.
Only been an AP owner for the pass three years..that's just my personal opinion.

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[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by benlee

Are you talking about the leopard Daytona?

rainbow. Rolex in St James square had one in June.

Its not my style at all, but its impressive.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by benlee

In AP current catalog, the closest to these will be the 15202 Jumbo, the RO Ceramic Perpetual and the 15407ST Openworks.

Agreed

[Raul Jack]

high demand

[Raul Jack]

is that daytona in st james still available ?? rose gold rainbow correct ?

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Raul Jack

is that daytona in st james still available ?? rose gold rainbow correct ?

it was not for sale. It was at a Rolex lunch and they had all the new releases. I was surprised the rainbow daytona made an appearance but it was not a working watch.

[AK797]

The guys have mentioned the main ones, the 15202 is the closest to the Nautilus so maybe that's the one you start with. In Europe it is pushing £26K now, $34K, to give you an idea of popularity. Will hit 30K soon.

[Rolex addict]

Originally Posted by benlee

I think just being rare is not sufficient, it has to be desirable, like PP 5711. And hard to get. There are many watches from brands that are produced in very low numbers, even limited edition ones but nobody wants them.

In AP current catalog, the closest to these will be the 15202 Jumbo, the RO Ceramic Perpetual and the 15407ST Openworks.

None of those watches are rare or hard to get. All it takes is money. However, they are hard (almost impossible) to get at MSRP. If you don’t mind parting with cash, you can have pretty much any watch in a day or two delivered to your door.

[SC11]

Originally Posted by Rolex addict

None of those watches are rare or hard to get. All it takes is money. However, they are hard (almost impossible) to get at MSRP. If you don’t mind parting with cash, you can have pretty much any watch in a day or two delivered to your door.

But then at a set price point anything rare becomes available!

[HK Islandboy]

OP, which piece(s) do you actually like the most?

[Stillwater702]

You may also want to look into recently discontinued models such as the 26320st.

[Raul Jack]

I really like the 39mm jumbo but it seems like its selling for 5-10k over msrp i will only pay msrp never over unless its something reasonable like $1000 to $1500

[Raul Jack]

@Rolexaddict

theres not fun in paying over sticker the fun parts is the hunt for msrp pieces and thats what i mean on my post 39mm jumbo is in my sights but had no lucks since AP has very little boutiques and that piece is a boutique exclusive

[Raul Jack]

@stillwater702 why does this piece looks so similar to 26331st ?

whats the differencefrom 26320st to 26331st?

[SC11]

Originally Posted by Raul Jack

@stillwater702 why does this piece looks so similar to 26331st ?

whats the differencefrom 26320st to 26331st?

6 O’clock sub dial size is smaller then the other two sub dials and now a contrasting colour, with the change in sub dial size the date window has been slightly offset.

Pushers are no longer screw down.

[HK Islandboy]

Originally Posted by Raul Jack

I really like the 39mm jumbo but it seems like its selling for 5-10k over msrp i will only pay msrp never over unless its something reasonable like $1000 to $1500

Any interest in the discontinued 15300? I haven’t been following the pricing of these, but my impression is that used examples trade for more reasonable prices than the 15202

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Raul Jack

I really like the 39mm jumbo but it seems like its selling for 5-10k over msrp i will only pay msrp never over unless its something reasonable like $1000 to $1500

Originally Posted by Raul Jack

@Rolexaddict

theres not fun in paying over sticker the fun parts is the hunt for msrp pieces and thats what i mean on my post 39mm jumbo is in my sights but had no lucks since AP has very little boutiques and that piece is a boutique exclusive

you want rare and hard to get like a daytona but want to pay retail and not have to wait a long time? You cant have it both ways so you should probably assess if you actually want a rare piece or not.

IMO the AP's that are truly hard to get are going to be non starters at boutiques without a pretty good prior purchase history. Anything popular is not going to AD's and the boutiques only sell them no matter if its listed as a boutique exclusive or not. The 15407 isnt a boutique exclusive but AD's are not getting any so it might as well be.

AP is harder to hunt for hard to get pieces since there are not AD's in every city who have a chance at getting the watch. If you want a daytona for example there are something like 500 US Rolex AD's and they all get them, its not like that at all with AP as every request gets funneled to a handful of boutiques.

[RolexZen]

Looking at post history, I wonder how long it will be before we start seeing pictures of OP with a shrink-wrapped Royal Oak on his wrist?

I think OP should stick with showing off his stickered Rolexes.