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nealjyu · 8 July 2021, 12:51 PM

Hi! I have a 1999 16570 swiss only Explorer 2 which even when fully wound doesn't run unless lightly tapped. I sent it to RSC for servicing and said they would need to overhaul the movement as well as replace the crown.

Should I refuse to have the crown changed and find an independent watch maker? Will replacing the crown affect the value of the watch?

Regards,
Neal

coelacanthus · 8 July 2021, 01:16 PM

Service replacement crown is the least value-affecting component (along with crystal for this generation) and proper sealing is needed for waterproofing. I’d be ok with crown replacement for 16570 if I were you.

Dan S · 8 July 2021, 01:30 PM

That's definitely an owner preference type of thing. If it's important for you to keep the original crown, I suspect that an independent could replace the seals. RSC just won't bother to do that.

zapokee · 8 July 2021, 02:59 PM

Crown/tube/crystal are disposables for me.

khalifam · 8 July 2021, 04:35 PM

If the crown isn't changed they won't guarantee the watch in some cases (look at the paperwork does it say required or recommend) if recommended you can refuse. If it's required you can still decline but they may say we won't guarantee the watch for any water proofing. I had the same issue on my watch but with a clasp, if I didn't get it done they wouldn't have guaranteed the bracelet only the watch head and for like £140 I thought might as well! They were ever so kind to return my other clasp back too.

Also, I don't believe it will have an impact on the value / originality of the watch.

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Nickn · 8 July 2021, 04:58 PM

The only way anyone would ever know that the crown had been replaced is from the paperwork
Visually it would be impossible like for like part

nealjyu · 8 July 2021, 05:51 PM

Thank you for the feedback everyone! Yes, crown replacement is required and is a stanard part of the service for full overhaul of the movement. The original crown will not be returned.

Will have RSC go on with the service.

nealjyu · 8 July 2021, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickn

The only way anyone would ever know that the crown had been replaced is from the paperwork
Visually it would be impossible like for like part

Accidentally reported you with my reply above. Mods, please disregard the report. Apologies

alwayshere · 8 July 2021, 05:57 PM

the crown matters more for vintage pieces, albeit only marginally. I suspect someone would pay more for a 5513 with the original 700 crown vs. a later 703 service crown.

Matters less for the 16570

WatchLuxe · 11 July 2021, 09:47 AM

Looks great!

nealjyu · 11 July 2021, 12:06 PM

Thanks! This watch comes as a full set and is an unpolished example hence me being wary of having the crown replaced.

Will now have to wait 3 to 4 weeks to get it back from RSC.

They'll overhaul the movement and clean the watch. Specifically told them not to polish it.

8 July 2021, 01:30 PM	#3
Dan S 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 5,941	That's definitely an owner preference type of thing. If it's important for you to keep the original crown, I suspect that an independent could replace the seals. RSC just won't bother to do that. __________________ @oldwatchdan on IG

8 July 2021, 01:16 PM	#2
coelacanthus "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: SF, CA, USA Posts: 148	Service replacement crown is the least value-affecting component (along with crystal for this generation) and proper sealing is needed for waterproofing. I’d be ok with crown replacement for 16570 if I were you.

8 July 2021, 02:59 PM	#4
zapokee "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Japan Posts: 4,346	Crown/tube/crystal are disposables for me.

8 July 2021, 04:35 PM	#5
khalifam "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: UK Posts: 1,071	If the crown isn't changed they won't guarantee the watch in some cases (look at the paperwork does it say required or recommend) if recommended you can refuse. If it's required you can still decline but they may say we won't guarantee the watch for any water proofing. I had the same issue on my watch but with a clasp, if I didn't get it done they wouldn't have guaranteed the bracelet only the watch head and for like £140 I thought might as well! They were ever so kind to return my other clasp back too. Also, I don't believe it will have an impact on the value / originality of the watch. Sent from my SM-N986B using Tapatalk

8 July 2021, 04:58 PM	#6
Nickn "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: London Posts: 503	The only way anyone would ever know that the crown had been replaced is from the paperwork Visually it would be impossible like for like part

8 July 2021, 05:51 PM	#7
nealjyu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: TW Posts: 39	Thank you for the feedback everyone! Yes, crown replacement is required and is a stanard part of the service for full overhaul of the movement. The original crown will not be returned. Will have RSC go on with the service.

8 July 2021, 05:57 PM	#9
alwayshere "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Australia Posts: 1,516	the crown matters more for vintage pieces, albeit only marginally. I suspect someone would pay more for a 5513 with the original 700 crown vs. a later 703 service crown. Matters less for the 16570

11 July 2021, 09:47 AM	#10
WatchLuxe "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: MA, USA Posts: 112	Looks great!

11 July 2021, 12:06 PM	#11
nealjyu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: TW Posts: 39	Thanks! This watch comes as a full set and is an unpolished example hence me being wary of having the crown replaced. Will now have to wait 3 to 4 weeks to get it back from RSC. They'll overhaul the movement and clean the watch. Specifically told them not to polish it.

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