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Old 18 October 2017, 09:04 AM   #1
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41mm Openworked availability

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Would like to locate AP SS Openworked 41mm. Any out there at stores?
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Old 18 October 2017, 09:07 AM   #2
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nope. Only grey and way over list if you can even find one. Looking at 1-2 years if you order from AP direct.
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Old 18 October 2017, 09:20 AM   #3
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Apparently RG openworked versions are readily available at stores though according to the 15202 and 15400 boutiques not taking deposits thread. If you have the money and don't want to wait...
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Old 18 October 2017, 09:23 AM   #4
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No AD’s have even gotten one so only Boutiques thus far. To even get one you have to pay in full at Boutique and even then you don’t know when. You are likely looking a few years out IMHO as so few being released especially in SS. I know AD’s taking deposits also and have long lists already but again who knows if they will even get one as again all so far have gone to Boutiques. So if you want one any time soon you are going to have to pay a premium. I know 15305st’s that have recently sold for $46k and last retail on it was $37,600. So clearly the OW watches are hot and hard to get so pay up or pass.
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Old 18 October 2017, 09:23 AM   #5
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Would like to locate AP SS Openworked 41mm. Any out there at stores?
No chance my friend! We have all struck out. Can't even prepay in full if willing to wait a year.
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Old 18 October 2017, 09:26 AM   #6
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Apparently RG openworked versions are readily available at stores though according to the 15202 and 15400 boutiques not taking deposits thread. If you have the money and don't want to wait...
Readily available? Still can’t get one at any Boutique here in US. I called every one. They have not received many but yes more than SS which has been pretty invisible. No OW AP easy to get nowadays and only through Boutiques.
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Old 18 October 2017, 09:53 AM   #7
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Readily available? Still can’t get one at any Boutique here in US. I called every one. They have not received many but yes more than SS which has been pretty invisible. No OW AP easy to get nowadays and only through Boutiques.


FWIW, I have seen the RG 15407 at the NYC boutique several times in the last 12 months and have seen them listed below msrp by greys. The RG was not moving quickly initially. Current market could be different but was easier 9 months ago. But the 15407 in ss is impossible moment and drove the price of the 15305 way up ever since its introduction.

This one from Feb was at list. Pics have been pulled unfortunately.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=520224
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Old 18 October 2017, 10:01 AM   #8
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FWIW, I have seen the RG 15407 at the NYC boutique several times in the last 12 months and have seen them listed below msrp by greys. The RG was not moving quickly initially. Current market could be different but was easier 9 months ago. But the 15407 in ss is impossible moment and drove the price of the 15305 way up ever since its introduction.

This one from Feb was at list. Pics have been pulled unfortunately.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=520224
You are correct but things are a lot different in the last 6 months. The last one in NY Boutique sold retail to a Dr. who I know. Very few have been around lately and they went back to premium again if you can even find one. Yes the SS impossible to find and looks to stay that way. I am glad I have my 15305st!
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Old 18 October 2017, 03:09 PM   #9
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Apparently RG openworked versions are readily available at stores though according to the 15202 and 15400 boutiques not taking deposits thread. If you have the money and don't want to wait...
readily available is a stretch. Ive seen one at a boutique (well the london version of a boutique) so i could have bought it without being on a wait list as I'm pretty sure it was not spoken for at the time. Just saying its easier to find than the SS by a lot. I still don't think AD's are getting any though.
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Old 18 October 2017, 03:44 PM   #10
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I guess the msrp price differential between the RG and the SS version is encouraging SS demand. Few years ago when I got got my RG Skeleton 15305OR, it was going at a significant discount at AD. Surprise it has become so hot recently. Still pondering if actual demand is so high, or it's a supply driven demand or people are just speculating.

Anyway, glad I kept mine. Upgraded with a RG bracelet And I am actually thinking of adding the 41mm SS version.


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Old 18 October 2017, 04:03 PM   #11
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readily available is a stretch. Ive seen one at a boutique (well the london version of a boutique) so i could have bought it without being on a wait list as I'm pretty sure it was not spoken for at the time. Just saying its easier to find than the SS by a lot. I still don't think AD's are getting any though.
That’s one was sold hence why we couldn’t try it on.

I didn’t dig into detail but a glance comment was the RG wait is a lot shorter then the SS.
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Old 18 October 2017, 04:14 PM   #12
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That’s one was sold hence why we couldn’t try it on.

I didn’t dig into detail but a glance comment was the RG wait is a lot shorter then the SS.
we did try it on

I was not sure the status, but yeah it was not actively discouraged like the SS, so its obtainable.
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Old 18 October 2017, 04:21 PM   #13
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we did try it on

I was not sure the status, but yeah it was not actively discouraged like the SS so its obtainable.
It was fully stickered and we just passed it round on the tray with the loupe to admire the OW’s I didn’t try it on as Daniel asked us not to as it was for a client!

Naughty you if you opened and tried it on
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Old 18 October 2017, 04:23 PM   #14
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It was fully wrapped and we just passed it round on the tray with the loupe to admire the OW’s I didn’t try it on as Daniel asked us not to as it was for a client!

Naughty you if you opened and tried it on
didn't get the memo. I wore it, it was in the stickered plastic though.

Far more impressive to me than the extra-thin tourbillon openworked. That had way too much empty space.
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Old 18 October 2017, 05:10 PM   #15
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Readily available? Still can’t get one at any Boutique here in US. I called every one. They have not received many but yes more than SS which has been pretty invisible. No OW AP easy to get nowadays and only through Boutiques.
In the Paris Boutique they had 305 and 407 in RG available a few times I went, at least one of them, they even had the ultra thin with date, don't remember model number, but last time I went was some time ago, not sure about now, and they also had a SS for the 305 but that was about 3 years ago, but never saw a SS 407

Edit: I saw your second post, yes maybe things have changed even in the Paris Boutique, don't know as haven't been there in a while
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In the Paris Boutique they had 305 and 407 in RG available a few times I went, at least one of them, they even had the ultra thin with date, don't remember model number, but last time I went was some time ago, not sure about now, and they also had a SS for the 305 but that was about 3 years ago, but never saw a SS 407

Edit: I saw your second post, yes maybe things have changed even in the Paris Boutique, don't know as haven't been there in a while
To inflate demand, they can just "cold storage" existing RG pieces simply by shifting it to the safe. That is easy especially under boutique control. I'm still curious how much real demand are there for skeleton pieces. Few years ago, people don't even give them a second look and suddenly they are all so hot.
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Old 18 October 2017, 06:56 PM   #17
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To inflate demand, they can just "cold storage" existing RG pieces simply by shifting it to the safe. That is easy especially under boutique control. I'm still curious how much real demand are there for skeleton pieces. Few years ago, people don't even give them a second look and suddenly they are all so hot.
Yes times have changed and demand is very real especially for SS ones either 407 or 305. I can tell you that I have a standing offer for my 15305st for $9500 over last retail price so that is certainly real and no it isn't for sale. So yes they are hot and yes there are none for sale anywhere. The RG ones are also hot and no there are none for sale either older 305's or 407's now as well. Are they as hot and hard to get as SS ones? No but still they are hot. There are simply again none around so supply is low and demand is high.

PS yours looks so hot on the bracelet!
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Old 19 October 2017, 01:59 AM   #18
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I've been searching boutiques for the 15407or and no luck.
Offered to even pay in full and still nada.

Spoke to a big trusted seller on the forums, and he paid over MSRP recently and sold it to a DEALER for even more.
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I've been searching boutiques for the 15407or and no luck.
Offered to even pay in full and still nada.

Spoke to a big trusted seller on the forums, and he paid over MSRP recently and sold it to a DEALER for even more.
i would reach out to a boutique in europe. The boutique to population ratio in the US is much higher so it might be harder to find. Maybe try Paris? With the vat back, you can make it a mini holiday to collect.
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Just saw this on Insta, guess there’s people our there that will like it but it brought a tear to my eye

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Old 19 October 2017, 04:24 AM   #22
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Just saw this on Insta, guess there’s people our there that will like it but it brought a tear to my eye

Ugh. Case in point of how money doesn't buy class, and people with more money than brains.
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Just saw this on Insta, guess there’s people our there that will like it but it brought a tear to my eye

see there isn't a wait list. AP happily supplied one to this joker. It looks like LA too.

Unless he is a giant though, the watch looks small in comparison to his hands.
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I guess the msrp price differential between the RG and the SS version is encouraging SS demand. Few years ago when I got got my RG Skeleton 15305OR, it was going at a significant discount at AD. Surprise it has become so hot recently. Still pondering if actual demand is so high, or it's a supply driven demand or people are just speculating.

Anyway, glad I kept mine. Upgraded with a RG bracelet And I am actually thinking of adding the 41mm SS version.


That is stunning!
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I’m in the process of adding the RG piece——unfortunately the price just hurts
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Tried once in Hong Kong last year, stunning masterpiece.
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i would reach out to a boutique in europe. The boutique to population ratio in the US is much higher so it might be harder to find. Maybe try Paris? With the vat back, you can make it a mini holiday to collect.
If it is for the SS no chance, around 1,5 years ago I contacted the Director of the Paris Boutique about the SS, said he didn’t have any and didn’t have any idea when he would get one, but said he had the RG if I wanted to see, since apparently they are even harder to find than back then, would imagine they won’t have it, but doesn’t hurt to call and ask...
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