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Old 8 August 2016, 08:58 AM   #61
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very nice alfred. thanks
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Old 10 August 2016, 06:18 AM   #62
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This is so useful for newbies. Thank you very much.
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Old 21 September 2016, 05:11 AM   #63
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This is so useful for newbies. Thank you very much.
for sure

this will help me a lot

like I stated in another Thread - this is full of great resources which is greatly appreciated.

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Old 21 September 2016, 11:17 AM   #64
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Very helpful thanks for sharing.
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Old 21 September 2016, 11:47 PM   #65
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basics

Thanks for posting these fundamentals. Does make me want to get a newer watch though.
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Old 4 October 2016, 07:55 PM   #66
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Old 27 October 2016, 05:18 AM   #67
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Old 27 October 2016, 05:27 AM   #68
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Good sticky.
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Old 28 October 2016, 11:21 AM   #69
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Great information, very useful.
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Old 28 October 2016, 11:45 AM   #70
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awesome advice brother!
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Old 28 October 2016, 12:13 PM   #71
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Thank you for this informative post.

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Old 16 November 2016, 11:25 AM   #72
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Old 18 November 2016, 06:08 PM   #73
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Excellent post on what 'should' be common sense when buying secondhand, or as we've seen from unfortunate examples, even brand new from ADs.

My last purchase from a well recognized and respected gray dealer here in TRF has solidified my decision to buy new whenever possible. I was told the watch had just a few scratches on the bracelet, nothing was said about it being polished. What I ended up receiving was a watch that had a fair share of scratches, and 2 noticeable dents on the side of the watch case that was clearly polished. It was deep enough that the polishing job didn't remove the dents. Question is, why were there still scratches on the bracelet portion, if the watch was clearly polished??

Needless to say, the watch went back and I decided to buy the same watch new.
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Old 19 November 2016, 03:31 AM   #74
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I have had great success so far buying from TRF. Very happy with the sellers! Good advice.
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Old 19 November 2016, 04:02 AM   #75
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I have had great success so far buying from TRF. Very happy with the sellers! Good advice.
kaya how are you? show that nice Serti you have.
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Old 30 November 2016, 10:28 AM   #76
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Thank you for this check list Alfred, great help!
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Old 9 December 2016, 04:06 AM   #77
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great post thanks
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Old 8 January 2017, 07:49 PM   #78
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Old 9 January 2017, 07:56 AM   #79
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Still Great Up till Date Alfred

Your Tips guarded me through.
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Old 15 January 2017, 04:28 AM   #80
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Great post, thanks for the insight.
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Old 21 March 2017, 08:47 AM   #81
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Thank you Alfred @FNFZ4 , this is very useful as i hunt my first one :) How about buying on line or here in the forum?
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Old 22 March 2017, 02:07 AM   #82
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Great post, I'm very surprised you didn't mention to make note of the last service?

As a buyer, it's very disappointing to spend thousands on a preowned watch, just to turn around and find out it needs an expensive service!
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Old 22 March 2017, 06:32 AM   #83
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Old 22 March 2017, 06:47 AM   #84
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Old 28 March 2017, 10:15 AM   #85
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This was helpful , thank you.


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Old 6 July 2017, 02:55 AM   #86
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Great post, I'm very surprised you didn't mention to make note of the last service?

As a buyer, it's very disappointing to spend thousands on a preowned watch, just to turn around and find out it needs an expensive service!
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Yes, this is something that a lot of sellers don't want to take into consideration because they know it'll lower their price. As a buyer, I always factor this in because the cost of service is no small thing. Also I hate it when sellers claim that it was serviced but have no paperwork to back that up. To me that means that it's either not true or they had some less-than-reputable place service it (and that's a bag of randomness right there with so many fake/replica/clone parts floating around). There is the outside chance that they genuinely lost the paperwork or bought it from someone who lost the paperwork but to me, that's the same as it not being serviced and that has to be taken into consideration.

Maybe "volume" sellers and second hand dealers should include shots of the watch on a timegrapher so you can see exactly how it's running. Sure, it's not a 100% guarantee that the watch doesn't need service but it's at least something.
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Old 8 July 2017, 04:29 PM   #87
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Thanks, good advice.
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Old 13 July 2017, 07:08 AM   #88
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Old 10 August 2017, 08:35 AM   #89
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This post makes buying so much easier thanks!
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Old 29 May 2018, 12:19 AM   #90
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