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Old 6 July 2017, 05:04 AM   #1
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Patek 5930 Real World Experiences?

I am wondering how many have had a chance to see or even own the Patek 5930 world timer? A world timer is a watch I yet to own and because of my travel and many calls with associates around the world would be a complication I might use. However my major concern is the readability of the dial.. My eyes are not young and wonder how it compares to other world timers or equivalent pieces. Would love to hear from those who have experienced in real life. Thanks in advance.
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Old 6 July 2017, 05:12 AM   #2
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Karl has one. I've never seen one in real life but in pictures the chrono looks small and impossible to read.
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Old 6 July 2017, 06:02 AM   #3
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The legibility of the cities is fine compared to 5130. I think it's because it's white lettering against blue background. The chrono definately requires some concentration to read off the sundial. It's not a glance...you have to read it....it as I find a chrono pretty useless it's mainly cosmetic. The watch wears small. I have loads of pictures on my Instagram. Cheers
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Old 6 July 2017, 08:04 AM   #4
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I have tried on the 5930 a couple of different times since its release. IMO dial visibility is pretty good, especially with the luminescent hands and hour markers. The combination of the WT and automatic chrono complications make the case a bit on the thick side, at just under 13mm.

I do not own this watch myself, but it is a very nice watch!
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Old 6 July 2017, 08:10 AM   #5
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Old 6 July 2017, 08:21 AM   #6
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To me I prefer the Master Geographic by JLC. I think the dial on this PP is too busy with all the cities visible at all times

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Old 6 July 2017, 08:24 AM   #7
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I owned a geophysic. It's not a Worldtime it's a GMT. The hands were impossible to read.
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Old 6 July 2017, 08:36 AM   #8
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To me I prefer the Master Geographic by JLC. I think the dial on this PP is too busy with all the cities visible at all times

The 5930 blows this away imo.
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Old 6 July 2017, 10:25 AM   #9
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Karl and Jon.. thanks for the photos and comments. I appreciate it. There are a couple of Patek dealers not too far from me and I will try to see if any in stock to at least get a look.

Young... I not a big fan of that JLC. I agree with Russ and Karl. If anything, FC makes a pretty decent world timer and while not nearly as nice as the Patek--- a lot cheaper..
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Old 6 July 2017, 10:32 AM   #10
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Karl and Jon.. thanks for the photos and comments. I appreciate it. There are a couple of Patek dealers not too far from me and I will try to see if any in stock to at least get a look.

Young... I not a big fan of that JLC. I agree with Russ and Karl. If anything, FC makes a pretty decent world timer and while not nearly as nice as the Patek--- a lot cheaper..
So does chopard and VC
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Old 7 July 2017, 05:02 PM   #11
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The question is should i trade in my 5990 for the 5930? I have the 5164 ...
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Old 7 July 2017, 09:36 PM   #12
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The question is should i trade in my 5990 for the 5930? I have the 5164 ...
One sport one more smart casual. I don't like the 5990 at any price so I am biased.
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Old 8 July 2017, 02:11 AM   #13
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The question is should i trade in my 5990 for the 5930? I have the 5164 ...
I don't like the 5990, love the 5930, would do it on the spot
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Old 8 July 2017, 02:22 AM   #14
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The question is should i trade in my 5990 for the 5930? I have the 5164 ...
I'd keep 5990 and get something else.
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Old 8 July 2017, 02:46 AM   #15
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i'd keep 5990 and get something else.


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Old 8 July 2017, 02:50 AM   #16
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The question is should i trade in my 5990 for the 5930? I have the 5164 ...
I would do the trade in especially since you have the 5164.
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Old 8 July 2017, 11:41 AM   #17
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Guys ! Thanks for all the feedback. I think the only reason i would sell if if i can find a 5930 is that I already own the 5164 and prefer that one when i travel because of its size and I need another watch like a hole in my head.. Well maybe i do need that too.
Seriously would like to see one in person first before even thinking of putting up that kind of money
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Old 8 July 2017, 03:29 PM   #18
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Buy if you like it, not because you think it'll be useful. I'll bet money all your calls are with a laptop, iPad, or smartphone nearby. All are faster, more convenient, etc at telling world times than a 5930, Master Geographic, etc. It's a novelty, nothing more IMO.
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Old 8 July 2017, 07:23 PM   #19
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Buy if you like it, not because you think it'll be useful. I'll bet money all your calls are with a laptop, iPad, or smartphone nearby. All are faster, more convenient, etc at telling world times than a 5930, Master Geographic, etc. It's a novelty, nothing more IMO.


100%. I personally like watch complications because they're complicated to engineer and produce and create interesting dial aesthetics - not because of the utility they offer me. Aside from werewolves, I'm not even sure who needs to know what phase the moon is in.
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Old 8 July 2017, 09:31 PM   #20
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I have not come across to see 5930 at any AD so far, good luck if u can see a real piece.


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Old 9 July 2017, 07:15 AM   #21
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Well other than the PR indicator can say that about almost any function on a watch including time. I sometimes think i need to talk to someone in another country and may not be in front of the computer to calculate approx time. Europe is easy but Asia and Australia start to get complicated.. LOL

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Buy if you like it, not because you think it'll be useful. I'll bet money all your calls are with a laptop, iPad, or smartphone nearby. All are faster, more convenient, etc at telling world times than a 5930, Master Geographic, etc. It's a novelty, nothing more IMO.
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Old 9 July 2017, 07:16 AM   #22
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I know it is hard to find in real life.

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I have not come across to see 5930 at any AD so far, good luck if u can see a real piece.


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Old 9 July 2017, 07:16 AM   #23
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Not an engineer but a scientist and I feel similarly to you. I do not wear my plan time or time with date only watches as often

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100%. I personally like watch complications because they're complicated to engineer and produce and create interesting dial aesthetics - not because of the utility they offer me. Aside from werewolves, I'm not even sure who needs to know what phase the moon is in.
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Old 9 July 2017, 08:53 AM   #24
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Not an engineer but a scientist and I feel similarly to you. I do not wear my plan time or time with date only watches as often


PS love my 5930 and highly recommend it

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5930 just like other PP worldtime is not a good tool in summer for your travel or con calls with partners around the world. It does not handle DST so it is going to cause some confusion for sure. e.g. in HK trying to figure out US west coast time or the opposite.

and the chrono function, featuring a small dial with only 30 mins often comes short for many activities I timed. You gotta remember how many rounds it has run.

despite these two imperfection, i love it. these are nothing compared to its beauty. TS said in an interview this 5930 targets younger crowd starting... 20.🤔 emm anyways, 5930 is part of PP's effort to develop interest among younger generations, legibility is not the most concerned but the combination of world time and chrono for the first time for a production model, underneath a versartile and vivid hand-guilloched dial that shows from dimmed blue to an amazingly bright blue in different lights.

superb photos from previous posts by various gentlemens.
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Old 9 July 2017, 04:54 PM   #27
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@Tony...actually no WT actually does cater for DSL. In the case of the JLC it merely has a star telling you to look at the next city e.g. London becomes Paris, Paris becomes Athens etc. I think VC has the most comprehensive with 37 odd time zones and that doesnt either. You also still need to know when it kicks in to be able to look at that time. I have become quite used to looking at Paris when I know DSL has been switched etc. The more stuff you have on teh dial the more cluttered it becomes. As for thechrono...dont think I have used it...but as a 30 min is this any different to the 5170? Cheers
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Old 10 July 2017, 07:01 AM   #28
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Karl Scrappy Tony Hairdude
I appreciate the comments. The DST issue is a good point but again if buying only for the reason of world time-- would use my iPhone.. :).
Anyway the PP5930 seems hard to locate right now.
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Old 10 July 2017, 10:30 PM   #29
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@Tony...actually no WT actually does cater for DSL. In the case of the JLC it merely has a star telling you to look at the next city e.g. London becomes Paris, Paris becomes Athens etc. I think VC has the most comprehensive with 37 odd time zones and that doesnt either. You also still need to know when it kicks in to be able to look at that time. I have become quite used to looking at Paris when I know DSL has been switched etc. The more stuff you have on teh dial the more cluttered it becomes. As for thechrono...dont think I have used it...but as a 30 min is this any different to the 5170? Cheers
Good point just that 5170 has a bigger sub dial. I am new to world time but start to develop love for PP's WT for its simplicity and elegant dials, the city names and the size. Maybe in the future I hope we will be able to see a world time on enamel dial like 5131 but with another complication like the chrono, and for that small sub dial won't be obstructing much of the beautiful enamels.

@wallucallit, chance for people to locate a 5930G in the AD's window is still not that high, hope u find one to find out if you like it or not. And here is some enabling:
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I have to say that in person this watch is stunning. I don't think the pictures do it justice.
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