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Old 20 July 2017, 02:47 AM   #1
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Audemars to move down to 36mm-40mm???

With all these pushes to 40mm+ cases. When will it get old!?

Anyone think AP will reduce case sizes or keep what they have started?

I wonder if they are soaking up the big case demand? Or will they adjust when tastes change?
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Old 20 July 2017, 03:01 AM   #2
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IWC has been making 43mm watches since the 1930's when they first introduced the Portuguese, so larger cases isn't a trend, they have been around in some form or other for a while. The availability of larger watches has gone through at least 3 generations of watch buyers.

Just because they say its a "trend" doesn't make it true. Its just a way to make it seem that large watches are "less than" their 36mm DD and to make it seem as though people who wear larger watches have less credibility because they are wearing a "fashion piece" which is ridiculous.

People who criticize large watches are no different than overweight people who get mad when they see that a skinny person can eat 3 ice-cream cones and not gain an ounce.
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Old 20 July 2017, 03:20 AM   #3
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People who criticize large watches are no different than overweight people who get mad when they see that a skinny person can eat 3 ice-cream cones and not gain an ounce.
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Old 20 July 2017, 03:43 AM   #4
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I'd actually prefer a 15400 in a 40mm instead of the current 41. The 41 fits me but just barely.
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Old 20 July 2017, 04:11 AM   #5
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IWC has been making 43mm watches since the 1930's when they first introduced the Portuguese, so larger cases isn't a trend, they have been around in some form or other for a while. The availability of larger watches has gone through at least 3 generations of watch buyers.

Just because they say its a "trend" doesn't make it true. Its just a way to make it seem that large watches are "less than" their 36mm DD and to make it seem as though people who wear larger watches have less credibility because they are wearing a "fashion piece" which is ridiculous.

People who criticize large watches are no different than overweight people who get mad when they see that a skinny person can eat 3 ice-cream cones and not gain an ounce.

I know what you mean, but I don't think anyone is looking down on large watches. Nor should anyone who owns a larger watch feel they are following a trend. It's all personal preference
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Old 20 July 2017, 04:24 AM   #6
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I know what you mean, but I don't think anyone is looking down on large watches. Nor should anyone who owns a larger watch feel they are following a trend. It's all personal preference
Thats just my general "people who don't like large watches" rant. Spend any time in the Rolex section and you would think anything above 40mm is a monstrosity (even though the sea dweller seems to be getting a pass at the moment).

It drives me crazy.

I still like smaller watches, some quite a lot, even if i don't wear them. Generally those who don't wear large watches hate them.
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Old 20 July 2017, 04:43 AM   #7
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I am fine from 39 to 44, though my biggest is ROO 42, but by many standards it's like a 44 from many brands. Even if brands were going tomdownsize their watches, I never cared about following fashion, won't stop me from wearing my diver if everyone is wearing 36mm watches, but don't think that will happen, the large segment is here to stay, even if like was said it was always present at one point or another
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Old 20 July 2017, 05:27 AM   #8
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I truly hope not. I like bigger watches - I don't know why but I just do. I've recently acquired a 41mm AP but that's as small as I'd go and I wouldn't give a 36 wrist time at all.
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Old 20 July 2017, 05:29 AM   #9
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I find 38-42 to be my sweet spot (the former reserved for dressier pieces) but can also wear up 44. I have no issue with the 'larger' watches however I do think anything over 44 will eventually be considered a fad. It's just too much. My wrist is right at about 7in for reference.

More pertinent to the OP's original statement though, I DO wish the RO would drop back down to 39. The 15400 (at least in white face) is too big IMO, too much space, and looks not as clean as the 15300 did.
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Old 20 July 2017, 06:04 AM   #10
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Audemars to move down to 36mm-40mm???

I don't have anything against larger watches or the people who enjoy them. :-) I'd be much more likely to own a ROO if they made a 40mm; even the 42mm version wears pretty large.

AP's more traditional styled watches are sized in line with their competition. The RO comes in < 40mm sizes. So, we're really just talking about the ROO. I don't expect to see them at 36mm or 40mm any time soon.


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Old 20 July 2017, 06:05 AM   #11
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More pertinent to the OP's original statement though, I DO wish the RO would drop back down to 39. The 15400 (at least in white face) is too big IMO, too much space, and looks not as clean as the 15300 did.

That's why you buy a 15202 or 15450. They already have 3 sizes of RO. How many more do they need?



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Old 20 July 2017, 06:53 AM   #12
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People who criticize large watches are no different than overweight people who get mad when they see that a skinny person can eat 3 ice-cream cones and not gain an ounce.
I think they need to eat 4 if they want to put on enough weight to wear a ROO
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Old 20 July 2017, 07:49 AM   #13
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That's why you buy a 15202 or 15450. They already have 3 sizes of RO. How many more do they need?



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The 15450 is a woman's watch IMO (and AP markets it that way). The 15202 is only offered in one colorway, sans secondhand, so it's not comparable. Therefore you're essentially left with only the 15400 which wears quite large for a simple watch with nothing much going on with the face. Pair it with the white dial and it seems even larger.



I really like the sub at 40mm though, so perhaps that what makes me feel odd about the 15400. I don't want a 'dressy' piece that wears bigger than a casual, do everything piece.
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Old 20 July 2017, 08:39 AM   #14
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I actually think AP is doing a great job with the sizes of their watches. It covers the general range and flavour for all.

Men sizes: 37mm, 39mm, 41mm, 42mm, 44mm (RO to ROO).

I don't think there is a need for 40mm (it honestly makes no difference on a 40mm between the 41mm or 39mm).

I also think AP did a good job to highlight the "original" ultra-thin jumbo at 39mm and creating the gap and choice for either a small 37mm or the larger 41mm. Creating a 40mm in what would be a new 15400 and more affordable version than the Jumbo will only confuse and deviate the buyers away from the 15202.
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Old 20 July 2017, 08:48 AM   #15
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I fully agree as to the RO - there's a 37, 39, and 41 mm version, so I think we're covered.

The 39 Jumbo is the premium dress watch, and the 37/41 are the standard sport models.
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Old 20 July 2017, 10:25 AM   #16
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I fully agree as to the RO - there's a 37, 39, and 41 mm version, so I think we're covered.

The 39 Jumbo is the premium dress watch, and the 37/41 are the standard sport models.
Absolutely right. There are more sizes of RO to choose from than some other brands offer. I, for one, appreciate AP's diversity of options.
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Old 20 July 2017, 10:50 AM   #17
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ROOs will obviously be over 40mm, but plenty of ROs and JAs are in that range, AP caters well to them.
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Old 20 July 2017, 10:59 AM   #18
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The 15450 is a woman's watch IMO (and AP markets it that way). The 15202 is only offered in one colorway, sans secondhand, so it's not comparable. Therefore you're essentially left with only the 15400 which wears quite large for a simple watch with nothing much going on with the face. Pair it with the white dial and it seems even larger.



I really like the sub at 40mm though, so perhaps that what makes me feel odd about the 15400. I don't want a 'dressy' piece that wears bigger than a casual, do everything piece.
I disagree the 450 is a women's piece. Also, maybe try the 15400 with the silver dial, you may find that more suitable.
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Old 20 July 2017, 11:20 AM   #19
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I think the 15400 at 40.5mm would be SPOT on honestly...
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Old 20 July 2017, 02:52 PM   #20
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I truly hope not. I like bigger watches - I don't know why but I just do. I've recently acquired a 41mm AP but that's as small as I'd go and I wouldn't give a 36 wrist time at all.
Have to agree with you.
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Old 20 July 2017, 11:39 PM   #21
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I have a 7.5" wrist, and find AP's 42mm size to be PERFECT.
By contrast; I find AP's 44mm size far too large, and Rolex's classic 40.5mm size FARR too small, and hate wearing them!
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Old 21 July 2017, 05:31 AM   #22
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I have a 7.5" wrist, and find AP's 42mm size to be PERFECT.
By contrast; I find AP's 44mm size far too large, and Rolex's classic 40.5mm size FARR too small, and hate wearing them!
Just taste and perspective, at 7,5" you could wear without problems a 44, even with my 7 it looks big but fine in that style
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Old 21 July 2017, 07:25 AM   #23
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Just taste and perspective, at 7,5" you could wear without problems a 44, even with my 7 it looks big but fine in that style
I would actually agree unless it's a seriously round wrist.
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