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singe89 · 24 February 2014, 01:49 AM

Major congrats!

simbal · 24 February 2014, 01:58 AM

breath taking!

kilyung · 24 February 2014, 02:10 AM

Wow... not much else to say.

Toony · 24 February 2014, 04:04 AM

That's some group shot!! Congrats on your newest acquisition.

Chulo · 24 February 2014, 05:01 AM

Damn. Amazing pieces! Speechless..

perpetualman88 · 24 February 2014, 05:14 AM

WOW huge congrats Roger.

Nothing you can really say about the 5970P except amazing.

5131 next?

AK797 · 24 February 2014, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by conkers

And a group shot to finish!

Amazing collection Roger, reminds me, rather sadly, of your AP collection shot last year, altho I think next year this isn't going to be an all Langes shot... or is it?

conkers · 24 February 2014, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Amazing collection Roger, reminds me, rather sadly, of your AP collection shot last year, altho I think next year this isn't going to be an all Langes shot... or is it?

Yes it seems a long time ago since I had like 10 ROOs!! I don't regret my change of direction for one nanosecond! As for Lange, I want one, but not a collection - Datograph Perpetual White Gold still haunting me!!

GarageBMW · 24 February 2014, 11:13 AM

Congratulations Roger, this is an impressive Patek group you have, well done !

gtbguy · 24 February 2014, 11:38 AM

Awesome collection!

subtona · 24 February 2014, 11:47 AM

If i said Outstanding it would be quite an understatement!

Demonoid · 24 February 2014, 12:01 PM

Roger, what are your thoughts between the lemania movement vs the pp inhouse ?

Do you have a preference? Pros n cons?

FremStar · 24 February 2014, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonoid

Roger, what are your thoughts between the lemania movement vs the pp inhouse ?

Do you have a preference? Pros n cons?

Just a heads up the Lemania is an in house movement.

sea-dweller · 24 February 2014, 12:44 PM

That is a beauty!

Demonoid · 24 February 2014, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FremStar

Just a heads up the Lemania is an in house movement.

Really Sam? I had no idea about this. So why did they change it? Or is it the same now renamed Patek movement?

FremStar · 24 February 2014, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonoid

Really Sam? I had no idea about this. So why did they change it? Or is it the same now renamed Patek movement?

Hey Logan,

The Lemania based chronograph calibers after modifications by Patek (CH27-70 in 5070) have rendered them practically in-house calibers.

I could go into more details, however, I am quickly approaching my bedtime!

myopiccoog · 24 February 2014, 01:54 PM

I won't comment for Roger but I own both the 5970J and 5270g. This 5270 is light years ahead technology wise. The Lemania is 30 year old technology. The 5270 has some patented parts that were the first changes since the late 1800's.

Chief Chininki · 24 February 2014, 03:07 PM

great find and unbelievable that you found it unworn! definitely will be a highly sought after collector piece.

tom2517 · 24 February 2014, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by myopiccoog

I won't comment for Roger but I own both the 5970J and 5270g. This 5270 is light years ahead technology wise. The Lemania is 30 year old technology. The 5270 has some patented parts that were the first changes since the late 1800's.

No doubt the PP in house movement (sorry, I don't consider Lemania in house because it's not made nor designed by Patek, just highly decorated+perpetual module) is superior technically, aesthetically however, many still thinks the Lemania is better looking.

Personally they don't look all that much different to me, I think the Lange Dato perpetual got the best looking movement of them three.

Also congrats to the OP for picking the 5970P, it's one of the best looking Patek in my opinion.

conkers · 24 February 2014, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tom2517

No doubt the PP in house movement (sorry, I don't consider Lemania in house because it's not made nor designed by Patek, just highly decorated+perpetual module) is superior technically, aesthetically however, many still thinks the Lemania is better looking.

Personally they don't look all that much different to me, I think the Lange Dato perpetual got the best looking movement of them three.

Also congrats to the OP for picking the 5970P, it's one of the best looking Patek in my opinion.

Yes I too have always considered the Lemania as a non-Patek but heavily PP-modified external ebauche. The supply I guess dried up at the time the 5070/5970 models were discontinued. Presumably PP had started R&D on their in-house versions well before the Lemania supply became a serious issue. I don't have a view on the aesthetics - I find them both fascinating, but I would agree also that the finishing of the Datograph Perpetual is more interesting than both.

It is nice having a 5970 again, I had a 5970G (and for that matter a 3970G as well) some time back, but the P model was always in my mind.

5270P black face for PP's 175th I wonder? If they do, that's going to be a real dilemma!

GB-man · 24 February 2014, 04:01 PM

Congratulations sir. You certainly don't slouch to acquire the goods. Wear them in the best of health.

AK797 · 24 February 2014, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by conkers

5270P black face for PP's 175th I wonder? If they do, that's going to be a real dilemma!

Just hope it doesn't come with the dip dial. If so it would be the ultimate Patek for me, with a nice clean dial for a perp chrono.

edo · 24 February 2014, 09:33 PM

Watch that killed RM avatar :)

Congrats!

conkers · 24 February 2014, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Just hope it doesn't come with the dip dial. If so it would be the ultimate Patek for me, with a nice clean dial for a perp chrono.

Yes exactly without the Jay Leno dial I will be all over that. 5204P black or blue face would also be very interesting!

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Originally Posted by edo

Watch that killed RM avatar :)

Yes the Marcus RM011 went - I have owned it for nearly two years which is a miracle for me but the new strategy will have much lower turnover than I have had of late. And I still have one RM just for emergencies!

patekguy · 25 February 2014, 03:04 AM

Wow nice

El118 · 25 February 2014, 10:03 AM

Very nice collections. Any plan to add a sports model nautilus?

Psmith · 25 February 2014, 10:19 AM

Congrats

conkers · 25 February 2014, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by El118

Very nice collections. Any plan to add a sports model nautilus?

A lot of people ask me that, but the answer is no. I don't like Nautilus, Aquanaut, Gondolo, or Ellipse ranges. Of course I understand that many people do like them, and they are nice watches, they just don't do anything for me.

I am not sure how one classifies the 5100 however, which I do like!

CWIN · 26 February 2014, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by conkers

And a group shot to finish!

Almost fell off my chair. Absolutely stunning.

Hamish · 26 February 2014, 08:01 PM

"When Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept for there were no more worlds to conquer."

This one takes the cake my friend.
Congratulations

24 February 2014, 05:01 AM	#35
Chulo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Ben Location: Chicago Posts: 283	Damn. Amazing pieces! Speechless.. __________________ Ben

24 February 2014, 11:47 AM	#41
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25 February 2014, 10:03 AM	#56
El118 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Malaysia Posts: 91	Very nice collections. Any plan to add a sports model nautilus? __________________ A Lange & Sohne Langematik Perpetual / Audemars Piguet ROO Rubberclad Black dial / Audemars Piguet Royal Oak 15300 / Vacheron Constantin Malte Grand Classiq / Rolex Datejust / JLC Reverso Day n Nite

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24 February 2014, 01:49 AM	#31
singe89 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Jim Location: Orange County, CA Watch: Rolex, AP & Patek Posts: 3,722	Major congrats!

24 February 2014, 01:58 AM	#32
simbal "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Joe Location: USA Posts: 833	breath taking!

24 February 2014, 02:10 AM	#33
kilyung 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,870	Wow... not much else to say.

24 February 2014, 04:04 AM	#34
Toony "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Real Name: Tony Location: Gatchaman Posts: 1,873	That's some group shot!! Congrats on your newest acquisition.

24 February 2014, 05:14 AM	#36
perpetualman88 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: David Farkas Location: Los Angeles Watch: 116610, 5712/1A Posts: 8,016	WOW huge congrats Roger. Nothing you can really say about the 5970P except amazing. 5131 next?

24 February 2014, 11:13 AM	#39
GarageBMW "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Third Degree Location: Glenfinnan Watch: the step Posts: 1,874	Congratulations Roger, this is an impressive Patek group you have, well done !

24 February 2014, 11:38 AM	#40
gtbguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Richard Location: Santa Fe Watch: Patek & Rolex Posts: 149	Awesome collection!

24 February 2014, 12:01 PM	#42
Demonoid 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Logan Location: USA Posts: 2,408	Roger, what are your thoughts between the lemania movement vs the pp inhouse ? Do you have a preference? Pros n cons?

24 February 2014, 12:44 PM	#44
sea-dweller "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Dennis Location: Bay Area - 925 Posts: 40,018	That is a beauty!

24 February 2014, 01:54 PM	#47
myopiccoog "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Earth Posts: 948	I won't comment for Roger but I own both the 5970J and 5270g. This 5270 is light years ahead technology wise. The Lemania is 30 year old technology. The 5270 has some patented parts that were the first changes since the late 1800's.

24 February 2014, 03:07 PM	#48
Chief Chininki "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Canada Watch: Patek 5712/1a Posts: 109	great find and unbelievable that you found it unworn! definitely will be a highly sought after collector piece.

24 February 2014, 04:01 PM	#51
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,864	Congratulations sir. You certainly don't slouch to acquire the goods. Wear them in the best of health.

24 February 2014, 09:33 PM	#53
edo "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Sarajevo Posts: 1,808	Watch that killed RM avatar :) Congrats!

25 February 2014, 03:04 AM	#55
patekguy Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Orange County Posts: 119	Wow nice

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Hamish "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Earth Watch: 5575 Posts: 1,674	"When Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept for there were no more worlds to conquer." This one takes the cake my friend. Congratulations

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