Elementary question of chrono functionality?

[subtona]

Take the 5170 for example, it incorporates a scale to measure heart rate, ideally this is a precision instrument with the expectation of accuracy?

My question is this:
If you are a Doctor & would like to utilize the functionality of your precision wrist tool to some degree of accuracy, which is designed to measure heart rate, how exactly do you press the start button (located on your left wrist) after you have located the patients pulse point (using your right hand), without removing your hand from the patients wrist/ pulse point?

I ask because a pulse point can often be a very tricky thing to locate, depending on the patients fitness & condition.

Or

does the concensus feel there should be no expectation of using this watch in such a fashion?

[FremStar]

Very interesting questions... There are two doctors on TRF that have owned th 5170 at some point... I look forward to one of them answering!

[codecow]

I can find my pulse easily with my left hand touching my right wrist, but I'm not a doctor I'm an engineer ;)

[FeelingTheBlues]

I'm not a doctor nor do I own a Patek chronograph but if I had to use that scale on it I'd do the following.

Provided that my watch is on my left wrist (where it always is), I'd use my left fingers to find my patient's pulse and while holding my fingers on his neck I'd use my right hand to start the chronograph...I don't know if there's anything that would make this go wrong but, again, I'm far from being qualified for this...

[tom2517]

I would think they will take the watch off the wrist.......makes it easier. If not, it's still doable.

But I agree with you, probably nobody uses it in this fashion.

[watch-guy.com]

nurse or medical student


Never seen anyone use their watch to take a pulse in the last 15 years!


Regards

Julian

( but yes, I would remove the watch from my wrist first if I was going to use any mechanical watch)

[AK797]

I can never seem to find my pulse but I'm pretty sure I'm alive.

[FeelingTheBlues]

Originally Posted by AK797

I can never seem to find my pulse but I'm pretty sure I'm alive.

Don't make sure assumptions Neil, you're not even a doctor...

[iazrollie]

ask the patient or use your tongue.

[subtona]

Originally Posted by FeelingTheBlues

I'm not a doctor nor do I own a Patek chronograph but if I had to use that scale on it I'd do the following.

Provided that my watch is on my left wrist (where it always is), I'd use my left fingers to find my patient's pulse and while holding my fingers on his neck I'd use my right hand to start the chronograph...I don't know if there's anything that would make this go wrong but, again, I'm far from being qualified for this...

Carl i would be using the wrist rather than the neck but that would certainly solve the equation… i am not certain if using my left or right hand is not without some consequence in the diagnosis.

Originally Posted by tom2517

I would think they will take the watch off the wrist.......makes it easier. If not, it's still doable.

But I agree with you, probably nobody uses it in this fashion.

absolutely would be effective…. alas for me this would surely end badly with dropping it or forgetting it :)

Originally Posted by iazrollie

ask the patient or use your tongue.

all good options... the last option being especially interesting, if your using a neck pulse point there could be an issue of long hair obstructing the view of your watch… then of course there may be that stinging sensation across the side of your face, perhaps causing blurred vision from the sudden objection to that particular method


i am curious because, i have an interest in alternative medicine as a possible 2nd career option for me, pulse taking & observation of the tongue & eyes are significant parts of the diagnosis…

as a point of information for those unfamiliar, in Chinese medicine, the pulse is taken with 3 fingers on the wrist and an expert practitioner of this pulse taking can diagnose a persons ailments with remarkable, precision detail and accuracy … each of the 3 fingers are registering unique qualities in the pulse.

[subtona]

Originally Posted by FremStar

Very interesting questions... There are two doctors on TRF that have owned th 5170 at some point... I look forward to one of them answering!

it would be interesting to know if they rely on their watch for patient assessment

Originally Posted by codecow

I can find my pulse easily with my left hand touching my right wrist, but I'm not a doctor I'm an engineer ;)

engineers always bring sound logic and reasoning to a discussion, a required counterpoint
when asked if the glass was half full or empty the engineer simply said it was twice as big as it needed to be

Originally Posted by watch-guy.com

nurse or medical student


Never seen anyone use their watch to take a pulse in the last 15 years!


Regards

Julian

( but yes, I would remove the watch from my wrist first if I was going to use any mechanical watch)

i guess this is similar to divers giving in to dive computers rather than the Submariners …
i have romanticized that by going to a mechanical watches we made a choice

Originally Posted by AK797

I can never seem to find my pulse but I'm pretty sure I'm alive.

a reason to celebrate

[iazrollie]

Originally Posted by subtona

Carl i would be using the wrist rather than the neck but that would certainly solve the equation… i am not certain if using my left or right hand is not without some consequence in the diagnosis.



absolutely would be effective…. alas for me this would surely end badly with dropping it or forgetting it :)



all good options... the last option being especially interesting, if your using a neck pulse point there could be an issue of long hair obstructing the view of your watch… then of course there may be that stinging sensation across the side of your face, perhaps causing blurred vision from the sudden objection to that particular method


i am curious because, i have an interest in alternative medicine as a possible 2nd career option for me, pulse taking & observation of the tongue & eyes are significant parts of the diagnosis…

as a point of information for those unfamiliar, in Chinese medicine, the pulse is taken with 3 fingers on the wrist and an expert practitioner of this pulse taking can diagnose a persons ailments with remarkable, precision detail and accuracy … each of the 3 fingers are registering unique qualities in the pulse.

Use your left hand to find the pulse and your right hand to depress the chrono. Or, wear the watch on your right hand, find pulse with right hand and then depress chrono with left hand.

[subtona]

Originally Posted by iazrollie

Use your left hand to find the pulse and your right hand to depress the chrono. Or, wear the watch on your right hand, find pulse with right hand and then depress chrono with left hand.

Agree this is best answer, i think Carl may have beat you to it

It is definitely a workable solution, its only slight compromise is that your watch hand is not free to move about while trying to read the time. Ie bring it closer or farther for your vision to focus or to a lesser degree just simply being able to freely turn your wrist to the light or out of the glare. With practice, im sure working with it in this fashion would become second nature.

[RussW]

I think I'd keep the chrono second hand stopped at about 50 seconds, then when needing to take a pulse set the chrono going and start counting when the chrono reached zero. Either that or just take the watch off.

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by subtona

Take the 5170 for example, it incorporates a scale to measure heart rate, ideally this is a precision instrument with the expectation of accuracy?

My question is this:
If you are a Doctor & would like to utilize the functionality of your precision wrist tool to some degree of accuracy, which is designed to measure heart rate, how exactly do you press the start button (located on your left wrist) after you have located the patients pulse point (using your right hand), without removing your hand from the patients wrist/ pulse point?

I ask because a pulse point can often be a very tricky thing to locate, depending on the patients fitness & condition.

Or

does the concensus feel there should be no expectation of using this watch in such a fashion?

A doctor doesn't take your pulse anymore. Ask his/her nurse if she/he uses the doctor's watch to take patients' pulses!